Windows 7 gripes

SteveR_100Milers

Can anyone help here - I cannot get Silverlight to run (brand new laptop with it pre-installed) as I need IE to run in order to operate garmin connect uploader which won't run in Google chrome..

2nd Q is a bit more detailed - anyone use Adobe Lightroom? I have installed a second copy onto new PC, but it wont open the existing catalogue that I created from the old PC on a stand alone HDD - error message says cannot opne read only, and might be is use with another programme...I am assuming that somehow I have to undock the catalogue from sole read/write access from the original software...any ideas? I haven't googled an answer yet.

Sirius631

I've got Silverlight installed, but I don't know what I'd use it for.

The Windows Explorer replacement 'Libraries' gets my goat as it doesn't update when you delete something.

SteveR_100Milers

Yeah I wish I had bought a Mac after all....so any idea where IE8 is????

redddraggon

You can use the manual uploader in Chrome.

I'm not sure it's Silverlight anyway, from what I remember (for firefox at least) you need to download the Garmin Communicator plugin from the garmin site.

dmch2

http://extras.uk.msn.com/internet-explorer-8/ is where google suggested to me

The garmin downloader only working in IE8 is Garmin's fault. And is pretty unforgivable really.

But all the issues about the 705 I've heard about suggest that software isn't their strong point...

Cleat Eastwood

ie8 is part of windows 7. Its the explorer of the iexplorer process. Why not try firefox. For what its worth I had to use the garmin communicator plug in and that was in ie 8

SteveR_100Milers

Cleat Eastwood wrote:

ie8 is part of windows 7. Its the explorer of the iexplorer process. Why not try firefox. For what its worth I had to use the garmin communicator plug in and that was in ie 8

I realised that, but where the hell is the icon / menu launch? I found it in the irritating bar that rns across the top of the screen (not sure if this is windows or a sony thing), but I cant see it in the "all programmes" menu. It's a bloody joke! I thought W7 was supposed to be (almost) as slick as OSX, in which case Macs are totally over-rated, though i suspect its because windows it still pretty annoying.

dmch2

Must admit that most of the UI 'improvements' in Windows 7 seem like a backward step to me. So whilst I use Windows 7 at work I left the home PC on Vista.

redddraggon

Why don't you just the manual uploader in Chrome if you don't know how to use windows.

There's very little wrong with Windows 7, so it's likely the operator not the operating system.

father_jack

I don't like Win7 got rid of Network search/browse. Sometimes it does not find connected devices. XP does.

domhopson

SteveR_100Milers wrote:

2nd Q is a bit more detailed - anyone use Adobe Lightroom? I have installed a second copy onto new PC, but it wont open the existing catalogue that I created from the old PC on a stand alone HDD - error message says cannot opne read only, and might be is use with another programme...I am assuming that somehow I have to undock the catalogue from sole read/write access from the original software...any ideas? I haven't googled an answer yet.

Have you tried manually changing the permissions on the catalogue?

dmch2 wrote:

Must admit that most of the UI 'improvements' in Windows 7 seem like a backward step to me. So whilst I use Windows 7 at work I left the home PC on Vista.

How can you still use Vista? It's a half a$$ed version of Windows 7 and truly horrible

domhopson

SteveR_100Milers wrote:

2nd Q is a bit more detailed - anyone use Adobe Lightroom? I have installed a second copy onto new PC, but it wont open the existing catalogue that I created from the old PC on a stand alone HDD - error message says cannot opne read only, and might be is use with another programme...I am assuming that somehow I have to undock the catalogue from sole read/write access from the original software...any ideas? I haven't googled an answer yet.

Have you tried manually changing the permissions on the catalogue?

dmch2 wrote:

Must admit that most of the UI 'improvements' in Windows 7 seem like a backward step to me. So whilst I use Windows 7 at work I left the home PC on Vista.

How can you still use Vista? It's a half a$$ed version of Windows 7 and truly horrible

dmch2

Windows 7 is just vista with more drivers built in, some performance tweaks, a load of UI fluff and an automatic encryption option for USB keys.

None of those are of any use for a PC that has the spec to run vista and is up to date with automatic updates.

dmch2

Re the second question...

Sounds like it thinks something else has a read/write lock on the file.

Process explorer will tell you what owns the lock which will help diagnose matters.

daviesee

You have my sympathies Steve, seriously.

But I am biting on the told you so. Oops, let it slip.

Hope you get a solution.

SteveR_100Milers

domhopson wrote:

Have you tried manually changing the permissions on the catalogue?

OK, but how do I do that? (which was my question really!)

reddragon wrote:

Why don't you just the manual uploader in Chrome if you don't know how to use windows.

There's very little wrong with Windows 7, so it's likely the operator not the operating system.

Oh you are so helpful, do you work in IT by any chance? Just in case I already tried a reboot....

As it happens, IE8 is installed, but only accesible from the "Viao Gate" menu bar across the top of the screen. It loads up, but in an igoogle shell. I think its because the PC wasnt brand brand new ( was a shop return ) the original user must have set chrome as the default browser. So how do I get IE as a desktop icon or a menu prog? When i type in Internet into the "search programs and files" box i get no return for IE. It's loaded, but where do I find it. Frikcing windonws, it really is sh!te. I so wish I had got the macbookpro after all, shame as the screen on the sony is fabukous for photo editing (as far as laptops go anyway).

SteveR_100Milers

daviesee wrote:

You have my sympathies Steve, seriously.

But I am biting on the told you so. Oops, let it slip.

Hope you get a solution.

yeah well....look when I get it to work, boy its gonna work, and then it will be better than than a mac. Its gotta work first though....

SteveR_100Milers

This was the only way I can set it up as an easily launched application:

In W7 64 - do the same but it will be C:/Program files (x86)/Internet explorer

It still launches in a google "shell" so am going to uninstall both and start again. Much as I prefer chrome and firefox to IE7, but IE8 is new, and id rather a MS product be the default when working with other MS software.

Buckled_Rims

IE8 isn't that new. I'm on Vista and I've had IE8 for a quite a while. In fact isn't ie9 beta available?

Sirius631

Buckled_Rims wrote:

IE8 isn't that new. I'm on Vista and I've had IE8 for a quite a while. In fact isn't ie9 beta available?

Only in 'beta', ie not fully tested.

Sirius631

SteveR_100Milers wrote:

Oh you are so helpful, do you work in IT by any chance? Just in case I already tried a reboot....

But did you unplug and plun in again?

Cleat Eastwood

what do you mean it opens in a google shell. Do you mean it has google as its default search engine?

Theres a long winded way to change permissions on a file and an easy way. The easy way is to right click>properties and change permissions from there; there are check boxes for read only, hidden and a button sometimes for unblock.

the long winded way is

Here

Also if you have the files stored on an external HD it might see it as another network so try copying the files from the HD to the desktop.

Often times you need to reboot to end all of the processes associated with a file in order to stop the annoying "file is in use " message.

SteveR_100Milers

Cleat Eastwood wrote:

what do you mean it opens in a google shell. Do you mean it has google as its default search engine?

Theres a long winded way to change permissions on a file and an easy way. The easy way is to right click>properties and change permissions from there; there are check boxes for read only, hidden and a button sometimes for unblock.

the long winded way is

Here

Also if you have the files stored on an external HD it might see it as another network so try copying the files from the HD to the desktop.

Often times you need to reboot to end all of the processes associated with a file in order to stop the annoying "file is in use " message.

Hard to describe as I have never seen it before, IE was opening as a tab in google. Though when I changed poage the references to google disappear to I assume now it is working OK.

I'll try the LRCAT permnission changes, I suspect the only way will be to uninstall of the original machine, and make a new catalogue and import / export all over again.Like I said, I suspect OS X wouldn't make quite so many courses for a Dog to eat.

EDIT: Your long winded solution worked, though it didnt take that long. Right clicking the file showed me the various file permissions, and whilst this PC can access it, my usre profile couldn't. It can now! Thank you very much Sir!

dmch2

IE9 is in beta. Someone was playing with it at work. Not sure if it's available to the public or if it's just MS partners.

Sounds like your complaint is with the Sony menu thing and how the previous owner set it up.

Try searching in the start menu for 'iexplore' you should then be able to right click and pin it to the start menu or bar.

SteveR_100Milers

dmch2 wrote:

IE9 is in beta. Someone was playing with it at work. Not sure if it's available to the public or if it's just MS partners.

Sounds like your complaint is with the Sony menu thing and how the previous owner set it up.

Try searching in the start menu for 'iexplore' you should then be able to right click and pin it to the start menu or bar.

Tried that, and no sign of it. I have a shortcut on the D /T but would prefer it on the taskbar Still it works and its not my favourite browser anyway.

Weejie54

IE9 is in beta. Someone was playing with it at work. Not sure if it's available to the public or if it's just MS partners.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/inte ... /worldwide

Rather buggy.

beverick

Sirius631 wrote:

Buckled_Rims wrote:

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Only in 'beta', ie not fully tested.

Isn't that the 'strap line' for all Microsoft products?

BTW, regarding W7 and Lightroom, I could only get my trial version of LR to open an Elements 8 generated catalogue having de-installed PSE8. I've had no problem converting the catalogue from PSE2, 4, 5 and 8 or to a trial version of Photoshop on XP.

Lightroom then imported it but guess what. Having deinstalled LR and reinstalled PSE8 I now can't get PSE8 to open it again.

So that's this weekend's task sorted - recovering my library from the backups (again)!

I'm pretty unimpressed with W7. It doesn't seem to be able to work out what an external device is from the appropriate driver and it also seems to try too hard to resolve problems that just aren't there.

I'm also pretty sick of the predigious number of updates which seem to be applied everytime you start or closedown (it opened up with 4000+ registry updates and finished taking 15 minutes to apply 27 updates last night!).

I think I've seen the BSOD (usually generated "to protect your computer from harm") more in the last month than in the 14 years since I mistakenly moved from MAC to MS.

It took me a week or so to get the laptop to reconnect to the Netgear router (and it'll still only see the 'G' side and not 'N'), it took me a similar time to get it to speak to the NAS hard drive at all (and a further week to work out how to stop W7 crashing when I closed down - it had 'loaded it as both an external drive and a subsidiary computer) and it still won't speak to the print server. I now also have to register the PC with iTunes every time I want to download something (which I've never had to do before).

I can't understand why MS can't get their operating systems to do things that Apple had 'bossed' 20 years ago with their platforms - ie speak to other devices!

If I hadn't invested so much time in the upgrade already this weekend's task would be re-installing XP......

Bob

SteveR_100Milers

Aparrently Sony has done some deal with Chrome, so IE8 was buried away somewhere. I had the red warning triangle with Gmail on Chroime, and couldn't open my inbox. Eventual fix was to unistall Chrome, reinstall IE8, and reinstall chrome....I have never owned a Mac, though I did for 12 hours till the ebay sale was reversed. I really wish I had, as the hype about W7 being a whiole step closer to OS X's seamless operation seems like a lot of b0llocks to me. W7 is no different to XP, only like Tesco everything has been moved around in the night.....

freehub

Windows 7 is different to Windows XP, and god knows what people do to their computers to get all these problems.

dmch2

Whenever hardware companies write software there's always pain (eg anything that comes on a disc with a camera etc). So I blame Sony in this case.