Crash damage to new helmet

Noel PT

Hiya Gents,

I bought a new helmet "Oneal", been out twice and took a hard landing today.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=441793162470&set=a.415141832470.207239.677337470[url][/url]

Not sure if the picture shows, but my helmet has taken some ugly damage. With and XC helmet, it would mean the bin for it. But with full face, does anyone know the general consensus with damage and what is considered bin worthy?

Is it possible to have the manufacturer check it?

Thanks

Chunkers1980

Buy a new one.

Specialized offer a 1/2 price for a new one due to crash damage - not sure on other manufacturers though.

Not worth it for £30 your head is too precious.

Noel PT

I will contact Oneal and see if they offer something similar?

£30?

Chunkers1980

£30 - that's how much an ok one costs.... in my opinion not worth spending more for this exact reason...

Noel PT

Its a £150 DH full face helmet, not an XC helmet.

Chunkers1980

Oh - :oops:

Didn't look at the pic....

But a helemt is a helmet - you can't see what's on the inside - try the manufacturer then..

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Noel PT

Fair enough, not sureif the pic is working anyway.

Chunkers1980

Sorry - missed a couple of bits there.

If you've got an XL head these seem cheap...

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Sear ... rch=cables

Try the manufacturer, but a part of me says they may have a different policy for DH helments.

Noel PT

Cheers mate, gonna have to have a look, what they can do for me - if anything. Gutted!

The link goes to cables? which helmet did you mean mate?

Chunkers1980

Sorry a tab crashed...

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=24915

Dunno if it's any good - but sure is cheap...

Noel PT

Probably going to this:



Sent O'Neal an email, but don't expect a reply anytime soon.

diy

I can't see the pic as I'm not a facebook user, facebook is one of the easiest ways to track someone down to commit ID theft of Fraud btw.

I assume its a polycarb like the airtech? if so and it has suffered impact damage while your head was in it, then you need to check the polystyrene liner for compression damage. Its likely that it is toast.

Really surprised that a 150 quid helmet is made of polycarb. I would have expected fibre glass or better?

Noel PT

Its not like the Airtech. Its the Skad, its glass fibre.

http://www.rutlandcycling.com/22553/O-N ... elmet.html

diy

Is the liner removable, can you get your fingers between the shell and the liner to check for compression damage?

where is the damage?

Noel PT

I removed it yesterday and had a scratch around, but no signs inside the helmet. But after pressing on the mark, my thumb disappears. So question answered! Its screwed!

Northwind

diy wrote:

Really surprised that a 150 quid helmet is made of polycarb. I would have expected fibre glass or better?

Bit of a fashion thing this, poly can make for a very good helmet (lots of the SHARP 5-star motorbike helmet passes were for cheap poly helmets). Has to be made right but it can give very good results, there's a tradeoff of outright strength vs reduced dwell time on initial impact apparently.

diy

I personally don't use SHARP as a reference when buying a helmet. Its been very heavily critisised, by people who really do know what they are talking about. It probably helps new riders work out which CE lids are complete crap and which are reasonable, but its not the best of the best that it pretends to be.

I personally consider helmet weight to be pretty important on a motorcycle lid, given the acceleration forces that are involved and the fact that a very high number of fatals are caused by basal skull fractures, which can be substantially reduced by choosing a light helmet.

Then their is the comfort aspect, which people under rate from a safety point of view.

I think cycle helmets need completely different considerations to motorbike helmets anyway..

My point was really that 150 quid is a lot for a cycle helmet and I would have expected no expense to be spared on materials. I don't think many motorbike polycarbs would sell at 3-400 quid, which in my view is a similar sort of spend.

diy

I personally don't use SHARP as a reference when buying a helmet. Its been very heavily critisised, by people who really do know what they are talking about. It probably helps new riders work out which CE lids are complete crap and which are reasonable, but its not the best of the best that it pretends to be.

I personally consider helmet weight to be pretty important on a motorcycle lid, given the acceleration forces that are involved and the fact that a very high number of fatals are caused by basal skull fractures, which can be substantially reduced by choosing a light helmet.

Then their is the comfort aspect, which people under rate from a safety point of view.

I think cycle helmets need completely different considerations to motorbike helmets anyway..

My point was really that 150 quid is a lot for a cycle helmet and I would have expected no expense to be spared on materials. I don't think many motorbike polycarbs would sell at 3-400 quid, which in my view is a similar sort of spend.

Noel PT

Hmmm, all food for thought, thanks gents. Looks like I have changed my mind altogether and will be getting the "THE" it costs an arm and a leg.............. but its got lots of pretty colours!lol

Northwind

diy wrote:

I personally don't use SHARP as a reference when buying a helmet. Its been very heavily critisised, by people who really do know what they are talking about. It probably helps new riders work out which CE lids are complete crap and which are reasonable, but its not the best of the best that it pretends to be.

A fair criticism. But Snell say the same thing- polycarb has a better initial yield to impact which results in slower initial deceleration, but worse penetration protection than fibreglass.

I'd agree that nobody could sell a £400 poly helmet but again I'd say that's fashion, the material's perfectly effective and can be made light, just that people wouldn't buy it.