2011 Fuji Track Bikes

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As always Fuji have come up with some amazing re-designs of their Track range in time for new season, with a completely revamped range they provide something for all kinds of Track Cyclists ranging from Professionals, Beginners to the Fixed Gear/Single Speed options for the Road

http://www.velodrome.org.uk/fuji2011.html

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Full range available to pre-order http://www.velodromeshop.org.uk/index.p ... rer&mid=49

chunkytfg

Please excuse my ignorance as I dont really know anything about track bikes but the top of the range bike is quoted as being 7.13kg's. To me that seems really heavy for a bike that seems to be lacking all the stuff which I would assume makes up for the majority of the weight of a normal road bike.

Pross

chunkytfg wrote:

Please excuse my ignorance as I dont really know anything about track bikes but the top of the range bike is quoted as being 7.13kg's. To me that seems really heavy for a bike that seems to be lacking all the stuff which I would assume makes up for the majority of the weight of a normal road bike.

Weight is pretty much irrelevant on a track bike - strength and stiffness are far more important and providing those properties generally makes the bike heavier.

chunkytfg

Fair enough. cheers Pross

Pokerface

Pross wrote:

chunkytfg wrote:

Please excuse my ignorance as I dont really know anything about track bikes but the top of the range bike is quoted as being 7.13kg's. To me that seems really heavy for a bike that seems to be lacking all the stuff which I would assume makes up for the majority of the weight of a normal road bike.

Weight is pretty much irrelevant on a track bike - strength and stiffness are far more important and providing those properties generally makes the bike heavier.

For anyone that knows - is weight really irrelevant? Especially in an event such as the kilo where every second from a standing start matters? WIll a heavier bike be harder to get moving?

Eddy S

Pokerface wrote:

For anyone that knows - is weight really irrelevant? Especially in an event such as the kilo where every second from a standing start matters? WIll a heavier bike be harder to get moving?

Irrelevant isn’t strictly how I would express it.

Track bikes still have to comply to the 6.8kg UCI minimum limit so a bike coming in at 7.13kg is good from a legality view point. Pross is correct stating that track frames and components are built for (and what I look for as a rider is) strength and stiffness.

What track riders, particularly from a sprinters perspective, don’t get caught up with is building the lightest sub weight limit bike possible – when I’m coming out of the start gate or hitting 40+mph on the banking, I want to know that everything is going to hold up underneath me. But equally we’re not looking to build a 9 or 10kg bike because it is sluggish to accelerate in a sprint or out of the gate.

If you every see a World Cup or the World Champs, each bike is checked for each event before it is allowed to be ridden – most elite level bikes are close to or on the limit.

Pokerface

Eddy S wrote:

Pokerface wrote:

For anyone that knows - is weight really irrelevant? Especially in an event such as the kilo where every second from a standing start matters? WIll a heavier bike be harder to get moving?

Irrelevant isn’t strictly how I would express it.

Track bikes still have to comply to the 6.8kg UCI minimum limit so a bike coming in at 7.13kg is good from a legality view point. Pross is correct stating that track frames and components are built for (and what I look for as a rider is) strength and stiffness.

What track riders, particularly from a sprinters perspective, don’t get caught up with is building the lightest sub weight limit bike possible – when I’m coming out of the start gate or hitting 40+mph on the banking, I want to know that everything is going to hold up underneath me. But equally we’re not looking to build a 9 or 10kg bike because it is sluggish to accelerate in a sprint or out of the gate.

If you every see a World Cup or the World Champs, each bike is checked for each event before it is allowed to be ridden – most elite level bikes are close to or on the limit.

Thanks for the reply Eddy. I actually ride for a National team - and have been to competitions. I know the bikes get checked. I have ridden both a carbon and steel frame track bike. I personally found the carbon one easier to accelerate with. But track isn't my main discipline, so wanted opinions from those that know before buying my next track bike.

Eddy S

Pokerface wrote:

Thanks for the reply Eddy. I actually ride for a National team - and have been to competitions. I know the bikes get checked. I have ridden both a carbon and steel frame track bike. I personally found the carbon one easier to accelerate with. But track isn't my main discipline, so wanted opinions from those that know before buying my next track bike.

Colin,

I was aware you rode for a National team but didn’t realise it included track.

Just an interesting observation W.R.T. frame material: At the National Masters Track champs this year, two of the four overall fastest kilo times were set on steel frames.

If you are able, you need to try a few and see what feels/works best for you. Correct fit and position are probably still the most important factors driven by what discipline you will ride.

I’m very pro carbon track frames that are designed for specific use – I have a Dolan DF3 for sprinting/TT use but still ride my (aluminium) Track Champ for training and it makes a great all-round track bike.

Pokerface

Eddy S wrote:

Pokerface wrote:

Thanks for the reply Eddy. I actually ride for a National team - and have been to competitions. I know the bikes get checked. I have ridden both a carbon and steel frame track bike. I personally found the carbon one easier to accelerate with. But track isn't my main discipline, so wanted opinions from those that know before buying my next track bike.

Colin,

I was aware you rode for a National team but didn’t realise it included track.

Just an interesting observation W.R.T. frame material: At the National Masters Track champs this year, two of the four overall fastest kilo times were set on steel frames.

If you are able, you need to try a few and see what feels/works best for you. Correct fit and position are probably still the most important factors driven by what discipline you will ride.

I’m very pro carbon track frames that are designed for specific use – I have a Dolan DF3 for sprinting/TT use but still ride my (aluminium) Track Champ for training and it makes a great all-round track bike.

I've owned a Dolan Arc (pre-DF3) and a box standard Dolan Pre-Cursa. The Arc was a joy to ride and the aero frame helped a little.

I have Track World's in March and will have to start training for them soon! But need a bike first.

oldwelshman

The arc with disc wheels and pursuit bars is hardly the lightest bike and comes in over 8kg but easy to keep rolling when up to speed.

SteveR_100Milers

slightly OT, but I am thnkking of changing my bike as its too small, and it just doesnt feel right, I cant find the sweet spot on it at all. Any recommendations under £1k ?

oldwelshman

SteveR_100Milers wrote:

slightly OT, but I am thnkking of changing my bike as its too small, and it just doesnt feel right, I cant find the sweet spot on it at all. Any recommendations under £1k ?

My yellow chris hoy bike with 853 frame, 58cm, with miche cset, dura ace seat post, zipp 404 wheels

SteveR_100Milers

oldwelshman wrote:

SteveR_100Milers wrote:

slightly OT, but I am thnkking of changing my bike as its too small, and it just doesnt feel right, I cant find the sweet spot on it at all. Any recommendations under £1k ?

My yellow chris hoy bike with 853 frame, 58cm, with miche cset, dura ace seat post, zipp 404 wheels

BLING!

Yeah that would suit me...how much but without the zipps? I could do without the sir christopher references too.....

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SteveR_100Milers wrote:

slightly OT, but I am thnkking of changing my bike as its too small, and it just doesnt feel right, I cant find the sweet spot on it at all. Any recommendations under £1k ?

big selection here for under £1000 - http://www.velodromeshop.org.uk/index.p ... ent=8&pg=1