Most Successful Bike Manufacturer.
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Peugeot is leading these (team sponsor) rankings, but I don't know wether they were the bike supplier all those years. Those rankings heavily favor regularity (Zoetemelk 3rd, Poulidor 5th) and Peugeot were a sponsor for a very long time.0
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Either Bianchi or Peugeot, I'd imagine.
Edit: Bianchi's palmares (from their website):
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- 12 Giro d’Italia
- 3 Tour de France
- 19 Milano-Sanremo
- 16 Giro di Lombardia
- 7 Parigi-Rubaix
- 4 Liegi-Bastogne-Liegi
- 5 Flèche Wallonne
- 4 Amstel Gold Race
- 4 Grand Prix
- 2 Vuelta de España
- 2 Tour of Switzerland
- 2 Tour of Germany
- 4 Road World Championship
- 6 Track World Championships, speed and pursuit
- 2 Vuelta Pais Vasco
- 1 UCI Pro Tour
- 2 Gand WevelgemTwitter: @RichN950 -
I was thinking Bianchi maybe. Cheers for that info it's interesting.0
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In recent years I would think Trek takes the cake. But not all-time.0
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Aren't Peugeot bikes and Bianchi today owned by the same Swedish holding company?0
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I dont think this is actually that straight forward. A massive amount of bikes that have been branded as a certain manufacturer may have actually been made by a bespoke frame manufacturer. For many years pros had custom frames made to suit them that were then sprayed in their relevant team colours. There is probably some 80 odd year old italian chap (e.g Pinarello) who can lay claim to crafting more winning frames than any factory.
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Dario Pegoretti used to make Indurain's "Pinarello" frames. Litespeed for a while made the titanium Peugeots and Bianchis used in the 1990s by the likes of Virenque, Brochard and Berzin.0
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For what it is worth, I think the type of bike has little effect on the results.
Bit of a curiosity more than anything....0 -
Cannondale have 6 GT's and the bulk of Cipo's wins ... So in terms of the modern manufacturers they must be up there with Trek ...0
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Pinarello = Delgado, Indurain, Riis, Ullrich and Perrero as TdF wins, Indurain Giro, Delgado Vuelta? plus many stages and other races too.0
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Rodrego Hernandez wrote:Pinarello = Delgado, Indurain, Riis, Ullrich and Perrero as TdF wins, Indurain Giro, Delgado Vuelta? plus many stages and other races too.
Delgado's Pinarello was a rebadged TVT, as was Indurain's in '91.0 -
Peugeot are number one, plus they were the team sponsors and not just the bike supplier.
You can't argue with 10 tour de France wins plus they are the all time number one team in terms of points.
They are not owned by Cycleurope (who do own Bianchi and Gitane among others) but thye do build the bikes under licence.0 -
Polocini wrote:I dont think this is actually that straight forward. A massive amount of bikes that have been branded as a certain manufacturer may have actually been made by a bespoke frame manufacturer. For many years pros had custom frames made to suit them that were then sprayed in their relevant team colours. There is probably some 80 odd year old italian chap (e.g Pinarello) who can lay claim to crafting more winning frames than any factory.
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Does this still happen much?0 -
PEUGEOT
10 Tour de France General Classification 1905, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1913, 1914, 1922, 1967, 1975, 1977
3 Vuelta a España General Classification 1948, 1969, 1971
6 Milan – San Remo 1907, 1914, 1918, 1964, 1966, 1967
5 Paris–Roubaix 1904, 1905, 1907, 1913, 1963
1 Amstel Gold Race 1983
3 Liège–Bastogne–Liège 1949, 1957, 1967
2 Grand Prix des Nations 1949, 1962
6 Paris–Tours 1906, 1907, 1914, 1917, 1951, 1970
5 Giro di Lombardia 1907, 1908, 1917, 1951, 19700 -
TheStone wrote:Polocini wrote:I dont think this is actually that straight forward. A massive amount of bikes that have been branded as a certain manufacturer may have actually been made by a bespoke frame manufacturer. For many years pros had custom frames made to suit them that were then sprayed in their relevant team colours. There is probably some 80 odd year old italian chap (e.g Pinarello) who can lay claim to crafting more winning frames than any factory.
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Does this still happen much?
No.
Materials and manufacturing methods are such that most frames are very similar.
Seem to recall Armstrong rode a Trek-badged Litespeed Blade TT bike early on during 'Comeback 1.0', but all the major manufacturers have a full complement of road/TT bikes these days don't they? Most from the same moulds in China/Taiwan.0 -
There have been TT bikes rebadged recently since not all sponsors have a top TT frame. I think Walser have supplied some teams.0
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Also the Specialized that Tom Boonen had made with a longer top tube when the regular frame was giving him back problems was made by Viner.0
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Peugeot seem pretty impressive. Do they still make bikes, not seem them about much and noting in the pro tour for awhile.0
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Peugeot seem pretty impressive. Do they still make bikes, not seem them about much and noting in the pro tour for awhile.
After a few less than impressive years Peugeot have a range of bikes again, though nothing high end. They sold about 25000 this year, but expect more in the future, hopefully.0 -
inseine wrote:Peugeot seem pretty impressive. Do they still make bikes, not seem them about much and noting in the pro tour for awhile.
After a few less than impressive years Peugeot have a range of bikes again, though nothing high end. They sold about 25000 this year, but expect more in the future, hopefully.
Thanks for that, will do a bit of a google later. I assume by high end you mean they don't do carbon frame any more etc.
Raleigh also seemed to disappear for awhile but starting to see them back a bit of a comeback.
What about Gios I know they used to be a good frame and still look great when you see them on the road, how many wins would they have ?0 -
I assume by high end you mean they don't do carbon frame any more etc.
They do a carbon frame, just not pro team level.0 -
the carbon one on todays homepage looks nice.0
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greasedscotsman wrote:Also the Specialized that Tom Boonen had made with a longer top tube when the regular frame was giving him back problems was made by Viner.
Did not know that. Thought it was Spec doing a one off, specialised one!0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:Also the Specialized that Tom Boonen had made with a longer top tube when the regular frame was giving him back problems was made by Viner.
Did not know that. Thought it was Spec doing a one off, specialised one!
Well, in fairness, Specialized don't make their own bikes, they sub it out. So in this case, they got Viner to do it, probably to Spesh's design though. Probably happens alot despite manufactures claims that the pros ride the same bike you can buy in the shop.0 -
B3rnieMac wrote:the carbon one on todays homepage looks nice.0
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Sonny73 wrote:B3rnieMac wrote:the carbon one on todays homepage looks nice.
looks very nice, would have preferred it in the classic Peugeot colouts, maybe in white with some chequered pattern along the top tube.
Now we just need a full on test ride0