I Need A New Job !

gb155

I work as a classroom trainer, I want to become a Personal Trainer to the Morbily Obese, does anyone know what the earing potential of such a job would be ?

Thanks In Advance

Gaz

dhope

Perfectly decent.
PTs at my gym (London) seem to either be on 40k-ish if salaried, or will charge £40-£60 an hour but then pay rent of a couple of hundred a week to the gym if they're working off their own back.

gb155

dhope wrote:

Perfectly decent.
PTs at my gym (London) seem to either be on 40k-ish if salaried, or will charge £40-£60 an hour but then pay rent of a couple of hundred a week to the gym if they're working off their own back.

Thats actually better than what I am on now, even taking into account im not in London It might be that I earn a little more, Im looking into it more from the point of view of it being my calling as opposed to making more money, but thats a bonus !!!!

Thanks

dhope

gb155 wrote:

Thats actually better than what I am on now, even taking into account im not in London It might be that I earn a little more, Im looking into it more from the point of view of it being my calling as opposed to making more money, but thats a bonus !!!!

Thanks

Disclaimer: This only being from a friend of a friend that was a PT at the Reebok Gym in Canary Wharf, and my old PT at a Fitness First who charged £40 for 45mins.

Reebok is pretty Gucci, FF pretty standard.

lost_in_thought

Yeah, a schoolfriend as a newly qualified PT is struggling for business at £25 per hour. But it should be noted that she's independent of a gym.

Once you've made a name for yourself I think it can be pretty lucrative, but it's the getting started that's really tricky. GB155 you should talk to gym chains.

gb155

lost_in_thought wrote:

Yeah, a schoolfriend as a newly qualified PT is struggling for business at £25 per hour. But it should be noted that she's independent of a gym.

Once you've made a name for yourself I think it can be pretty lucrative, but it's the getting started that's really tricky. GB155 you should talk to gym chains.

Any got Duncan Bannertyne's email address ? :-)

I think I have a good "angle" to start with, going from 40 stone to almost 16, plus if I do make the change I get an excuse to workout all day too :-)

Kieran_Burns

gb155 wrote:

lost_in_thought wrote:

Yeah, a schoolfriend as a newly qualified PT is struggling for business at £25 per hour. But it should be noted that she's independent of a gym.

Once you've made a name for yourself I think it can be pretty lucrative, but it's the getting started that's really tricky. GB155 you should talk to gym chains.

Any got Duncan Bannertyne's email address ? :-)

I think I have a good "angle" to start with, going from 40 stone to almost 16, plus if I do make the change I get an excuse to workout all day too :-)

All you'd to do is have that life size cardboard cut-out of you on display as people came in....

jonginge

gb155 wrote:

lost_in_thought wrote:

Yeah, a schoolfriend as a newly qualified PT is struggling for business at £25 per hour. But it should be noted that she's independent of a gym.

Once you've made a name for yourself I think it can be pretty lucrative, but it's the getting started that's really tricky. GB155 you should talk to gym chains.

Any got Duncan Bannertyne's email address ? :-)

I think I have a good "angle" to start with, going from 40 stone to almost 16, plus if I do make the change I get an excuse to workout all day too :-)

Gaz, this is OT but great work fella! Last time I saw your sig you were still over 19st. Chapeau

lost_in_thought

gb155 wrote:

lost_in_thought wrote:

Yeah, a schoolfriend as a newly qualified PT is struggling for business at £25 per hour. But it should be noted that she's independent of a gym.

Once you've made a name for yourself I think it can be pretty lucrative, but it's the getting started that's really tricky. GB155 you should talk to gym chains.

Any got Duncan Bannertyne's email address ? :-)

I think I have a good "angle" to start with, going from 40 stone to almost 16, plus if I do make the change I get an excuse to workout all day too :-)

I agree, definitely, and your idea of specialising in helping the morbidly obese is a great one. You should definitely be talking to gym chains, and perhaps to Primary Care Trusts or whatever they're called these days.

However, I would suggest that step 1 might be to look into Personal Trainer qualifications. I think some gyms will pay you to work for them while covering your learning costs.

seward4or5

Gaz - do you want to be a personal trainer in the traditional sense, or did you have in mind being more of a lifestyle type coach, with further advice on getting started, diet, motivation etc. I appreciate PTs do these things too, but perhaps this would be an opportunity do work (and provide support) outside the gym environment.

gb155

Kieran_Burns wrote:

gb155 wrote:

lost_in_thought wrote:

Yeah, a schoolfriend as a newly qualified PT is struggling for business at £25 per hour. But it should be noted that she's independent of a gym.

Once you've made a name for yourself I think it can be pretty lucrative, but it's the getting started that's really tricky. GB155 you should talk to gym chains.

Any got Duncan Bannertyne's email address ? :-)

I think I have a good "angle" to start with, going from 40 stone to almost 16, plus if I do make the change I get an excuse to workout all day too :-)

All you'd to do is have that life size cardboard cut-out of you on display as people came in....

Thats a good plan , me and mi auld mate

gb155

lost_in_thought wrote:

gb155 wrote:

lost_in_thought wrote:

Yeah, a schoolfriend as a newly qualified PT is struggling for business at £25 per hour. But it should be noted that she's independent of a gym.

Once you've made a name for yourself I think it can be pretty lucrative, but it's the getting started that's really tricky. GB155 you should talk to gym chains.

Any got Duncan Bannertyne's email address ? :-)

I think I have a good "angle" to start with, going from 40 stone to almost 16, plus if I do make the change I get an excuse to workout all day too :-)

I agree, definitely, and your idea of specialising in helping the morbidly obese is a great one. You should definitely be talking to gym chains, and perhaps to Primary Care Trusts or whatever they're called these days.

However, I would suggest that step 1 might be to look into Personal Trainer qualifications. I think some gyms will pay you to work for them while covering your learning costs.

I'll make it so, its something I just HAVE to do !

gb155

JonGinge wrote:

gb155 wrote:

lost_in_thought wrote:

Yeah, a schoolfriend as a newly qualified PT is struggling for business at £25 per hour. But it should be noted that she's independent of a gym.

Once you've made a name for yourself I think it can be pretty lucrative, but it's the getting started that's really tricky. GB155 you should talk to gym chains.

Any got Duncan Bannertyne's email address ? :-)

I think I have a good "angle" to start with, going from 40 stone to almost 16, plus if I do make the change I get an excuse to workout all day too :-)

Gaz, this is OT but great work fella! Last time I saw your sig you were still over 19st. Chapeau

Cheers Mate, Appreciate that

sc999cs

OT - Your signature needs updated - you don't have 20 stone to lose any more

You've got an impressive statement to put on any job application. It's all very well saying you can do something - but you've shown you can do it too. Good luck.

greg66_tri_v2.0

First, big chapeau on the weight loss progress. But what's the new target? You've gone sub T-20stone, so where to now?

Second, I reckon you need to speak to gyms about getting some PT qualification, or if there is no such thing, some sort of idea of baseline experience.

Third, and most important, I don't think gyms are going to help one bit with finding your target market. I'd've thought your target market is sitting at home, and has a morbid (hmm) fear of going anywhere near a gym. As lits said, PCTs would be a good target to find clients. They might also be a good source of info as to how much is too much for a typical 30/40 stoner in the early days (I'm guessing that when you started, you were self-regulating in terms of how hard/long you pushed yourself...)

Allez Mark

JonGinge wrote:

Gaz, this is OT but great work fella! Last time I saw your sig you were still over 19st. Chapeau

I was thinking the same when I saw 16st 10 in the sig... Thats amazing.

I've just had a quick look at the blog because I hadn't seen it for a while. The photos are brill. One of the most inspirational stories Ive ever seen. Every obese or extremly overweight person needs to see this.

coopster_the_1st

Gaz,

I think you may be going at this from the wrong angle.

I do not think 25 stone or heavier people will go to gyms to lose weight. By that time I suspect they are going to doctors/dieticians and looking at the options available there.

This is where I think you have a niche based on your experience.

Some sort of motivation weight watchers on the NHS but from someone that knows exactly what is being experienced

lost_in_thought

Greg66 wrote:

Second, I reckon you need to speak to gyms about getting some PT qualification, or if there is no such thing, some sort of idea of baseline experience.

I know there is such a thing, I don't know anything else about it other than that.

Stone Glider

You may not have found your new job yet Gaz. but you have motivated me! That you have continued your weight-loss since last we corresponded and I have not put me to shame. A new leaf has been turned. Starting today. 15 stone here I come!

On the OP I have no clue but the NHS would seem an obvious source of nstructions. There may be appropriate qualifications to obtain or a "professional" body to contact. Good luck.

Chris.

andy83

Alright gaz,

Firstly great work on the weight loss

now my 2 pence worth

I am a fully qualified pt (well might have expired now) and was a PT for a year 5 years ago

It is great at first, hard work but great, you need to make a reputation for yourself, work so so hard to get the business to start with and go from there. You seem a very motivated person and this could help you however there are lots of low times

There will inevitably be tough times when there is little or no work and you have to try and drum up business. Its not easy as its a very cut throat industry, you need to have something unique that will appeal to people.

Also I think if you love training then its not for you. I love exercise but when you do it for a living it can get annoying. There are days when you dont feel like training yourself but you need to stand there and motivate others, its hard cos you need to practice what you preech and be motivated at all times

I ended up complimenting my pt with circuit classes which helped get business.

Yes the money was good but In the end the uncertainty of not knowing exactly how much your getting paid, the unsociable hours got to me

Im now doing a job that I love doing, steady income and job security. Ok the PT prob paid more but im happier now in my work and can enjoy my training once again

Also the course costs around £3000 to do and if im honest in a recession it is not the best industry to go into. If you go into a gym and pay rent then its going to be very hard as there will already be established pt's already there

EKE_38BPM

Whatever the job, don't overly stress about the money. Obviously you need money to live but people who do jobs they actually want to do are happier than people who earn loads doing a job they hate.

I heard a saying: "Find a job you like doing and you'll never work a day in your life."

Now for me to find a job I like doing.

And MUCH RESPECT on the weight loss, hitting your target and making a lifestyle change for the better.

andy83

EKE_38BPM wrote:

Whatever the job, don't overly stress about the money. Obviously you need money to live but people who do jobs they actually want to do are happier than people who earn loads doing a job they hate.

I heard a saying: "Find a job you like doing and you'll never work a day in your life."

Now for me to find a job I like doing.

And MUCH RESPECT on the weight loss, hitting your target and making a lifestyle change for the better.

Couldnt agree more, I love my job, the money aint the best but I never hate coming in. Id much rather be happy in a job, than have loads of money and be miserable

EKE_38BPM

andy83 wrote:

EKE_38BPM wrote:

Whatever the job, don't overly stress about the money. Obviously you need money to live but people who do jobs they actually want to do are happier than people who earn loads doing a job they hate.

I heard a saying: "Find a job you like doing and you'll never work a day in your life."

Now for me to find a job I like doing.

And MUCH RESPECT on the weight loss, hitting your target and making a lifestyle change for the better.

Couldnt agree more, I love my job, the money aint the best but I never hate coming in. Id much rather be happy in a job, than have loads of money and be miserable

Lucky git. I'm doing a job I don't like and not getting paid well for it. Worst of both worlds. Plans are afoot though...

gb155

Morning All


Some great advice here, I dont want to reply to everyone and double the size of the thread, but I do want to say thanks to you all, especially andy83, lots of detail there fella, thanks.

What the advice has done is made me look at it from a different angle, Getting into a Gym might not be what I need to be doing, based on my target audience.

What this space, I said I was going to lose 20 stone, while most people here were unbelievably supportive, a few looked on and said "Nah, he cant do it", The same can be said about my new dream, a lot of people in "real life" support it, a few look on and laugh.

Will keep you all updated, thanks again

Oh and sorry its been so long since I was last here, I have had a few distractions, as my sig proves :-)

Gaz

gb155

Greg66 wrote:

First, big chapeau on the weight loss progress. But what's the new target? You've gone sub T-20stone, so where to now?

Second, I reckon you need to speak to gyms about getting some PT qualification, or if there is no such thing, some sort of idea of baseline experience.

Third, and most important, I don't think gyms are going to help one bit with finding your target market. I'd've thought your target market is sitting at home, and has a morbid (hmm) fear of going anywhere near a gym. As lits said, PCTs would be a good target to find clients. They might also be a good source of info as to how much is too much for a typical 30/40 stoner in the early days (I'm guessing that when you started, you were self-regulating in terms of how hard/long you pushed yourself...)

Cheers Greg.

New target, 14 stone, but I have te added complication of skin, TBH, if I had that removed today i'd be under 14 stone, so the numbers are skewed a little, until it comes off its always going to be higher than reality, the PCT have agreed, but I have many many hoops to jump though. Surgeon suspects I have 3-4stone of skin, so its worth the effort.

as for your third point, You have really helped me get things straight in my own head, thanks for that, I now I have a better idea, of how and where I am gonna attack this.

gb155

Stone Glider wrote:

You may not have found your new job yet Gaz. but you have motivated me! That you have continued your weight-loss since last we corresponded and I have not put me to shame. A new leaf has been turned. Starting today. 15 stone here I come!

On the OP I have no clue but the NHS would seem an obvious source of nstructions. There may be appropriate qualifications to obtain or a "professional" body to contact. Good luck.

Chris.

Chris

That's what this topic is all aout though mate, I want to lead by example and elevate those that follow me, so in a way, your my first client (freebies on me mate LOL)

Good luck and keep us updated.

Gaz

gb155

sc999cs wrote:

OT - Your signature needs updated - you don't have 20 stone to lose any more

You've got an impressive statement to put on any job application. It's all very well saying you can do something - but you've shown you can do it too. Good luck.

Thanks I appreciate that.

I emailed Jeff asking if he was interested in running my story here on Bike radar, not for personal fame, not for any fees, but to just try and help inspire and motivate as many people out there as I can, I dont however think Jeff shares your view on my weight loss, as he never replied, onwards and upwards.

suzyb

Gaz, have you thought about the nutrition side of things as well. Loosing weight isn't just about exercising but eating better as well.

(or is that part of what a PT does)