DURABILITY OF CARBON FRAMES

confusedrider.com!!!

I'M CONSIDERING BUYING A SECOND HAND FRAME (MAYBE UPTO 4 YRS OLD) AND WAS WONDERING IF THEY DETERIORATE OVER TIME/MILES.THE FRAME WILL BE FROM AN ORBEA ORCA SO SHOULD BE TOP QUALITY CARBON.
THE MILES MUST TAKE THEIR TOLL ON THE FRAME AND MORE SO MAYBE,THE FORKS BUT TO WHAT EXTENT?
ANY IDEAS? THANKS

rake

it is supposed to stand fatigue well, problems start when its been stressed beyond its limits, cant see if its had a fall or the forks have run into anything. only the rider will really know that.

JKHinton

If you can, find out the weight of the last user
It might have been a 20 stone tele tubby.

confusedrider.com!!!

GOOD POINT-I'LL CHECK THEY'RE NOT AN AMERICAN!

Pokerface

And turn your caps lock off. It's considered SHOUTING.

inseine

I think anyone with three exclamation marks after their name probably is shouting!

Carbon doesn't deteriate, it breaks! Unless damaged it wont be affected by just being ridden.

Sitka

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

GOOD POINT-I'LL CHECK THEY'RE NOT AN AMERICAN!

Bit of a sweeping statement. You don't have to worry about Americans......have you looked around the UK recently

plowmar

But not on bikes surely? :twisted:

father_jack

Carbon isn't durable at all, it's about as brittle and fragile as these.

confusedrider.com!!!

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!
AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT US BRITS-WE CAN'T TALK!

father_jack

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!

No it's annoying.

Chip \'oyler

Father Jack wrote:

Carbon isn't durable at all, it's about as brittle and fragile as these.

Is it? Care to divulge your knowledge?

inseine

Is it? Care to divulge your knowledge?

I think (hope) he's trying to be funny.

Chip \'oyler

inseine wrote:

Is it? Care to divulge your knowledge?

I think (hope) he's trying to be funny.

Probably - seeing as diamonds are carbon.

rolf_f

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!
AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT US BRITS-WE CAN'T TALK!

And if everyone used caps lock? Your posts aren't actually any more important than anyone elses.......

secretsqizz

Rolf F wrote:

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!
AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT US BRITS-WE CAN'T TALK!

And if everyone used caps lock? Your posts aren't actually any more important than anyone elses.......

mine are... :oops:

rolf_f

secretsqizz wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!
AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT US BRITS-WE CAN'T TALK!

And if everyone used caps lock? Your posts aren't actually any more important than anyone elses.......

mine are... :oops:

Absolutely. Goes without saying!

nferrar

As has been said, 4 years of general riding shouldn't be an issue it's whether it's been crashed/abused in that time. Then again my 2008 Roubaix has been over a car bonnet (with me attached) and also into a wall at 10-15mph (again with me attached), it's got a few scratches but not snapped on me yet, ofc it could do that next ride...

ugo.santalucia

I hate carbon fibre frames. But purely for cosmetic reasons, I have to admit.

However, there is no reason why they should not last. In addition, you are talking about a 4 years old frame, in my world this is a nearly new one. I've seen some Look of the mid 90s in pretty good shape. The resistance to fatigue of composite materials is by far superior to metal alloys (including titanium alloys, sold as everlasting).

Once you have inspected there are no cracks, you could buy with confidence. The weight of the previous rider is nonsense. If he was a big guy and the frame has survived it is testimony of a good product. With a new one, you never know...

softlad

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!

you're right, it certainly does get noticed - everybody says "look at that idiot typing in caps".......

markos1963

Why do we keep getting these questions over carbons durability? FFS we get on a modern jet plane without question and fly thousands of miles without asking if its composite wings and other panels are going to break up! Do bike manufacturers sell frames that are going to fail knowing they'll get sued to oblivion?

Obviously don't get it wet though

confusedrider.com!!!

softlad wrote:

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!

you're right, it certainly does get noticed - everybody says "look at that idiot typing in caps".......[/quot

I'D IMAGINE THAT SOMEONE WITH MORE THAN 3300 POSTS ON AN INTERNET FORUM HAS BIGGER ISSUES TO ADDRESS THAN WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER USER HAS LEFT THEIR CAPS LOCK ON.YOU DIDN'T EVEN COMMENT ON THE THREAD.HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A THAI BRIDE?I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND A SITE TO HELP IMPROVE YOUR SAD EXISTANCE(in lower case of course):-

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est.1984

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

softlad wrote:

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!

you're right, it certainly does get noticed - everybody says "look at that idiot typing in caps".......[/quot

I'D IMAGINE THAT SOMEONE WITH MORE THAN 3300 POSTS ON AN INTERNET FORUM HAS BIGGER ISSUES TO ADDRESS THAN WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER USER HAS LEFT THEIR CAPS LOCK ON.YOU DIDN'T EVEN COMMENT ON THE THREAD.HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A THAI BRIDE?I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND A SITE TO HELP IMPROVE YOUR SAD EXISTANCE(in lower case of course):-

www.getalifeutit.com

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Anonymous

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

I'D IMAGINE THAT SOMEONE WITH MORE THAN 3300 POSTS ON AN INTERNET FORUM HAS BIGGER ISSUES TO ADDRESS THAN WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER USER HAS LEFT THEIR CAPS LOCK ON.YOU DIDN'T EVEN COMMENT ON THE THREAD.HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A THAI BRIDE?I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND A SITE TO HELP IMPROVE YOUR SAD EXISTANCE(in lower case of course):-

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You spelt existence wrong.

Caps is harder to read, hence they use normal writing on Motorway signs...

softlad

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

softlad wrote:

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!

you're right, it certainly does get noticed - everybody says "look at that idiot typing in caps".......[/quot

I'D IMAGINE THAT SOMEONE WITH MORE THAN 3300 POSTS ON AN INTERNET FORUM HAS BIGGER ISSUES TO ADDRESS THAN WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER USER HAS LEFT THEIR CAPS LOCK ON.YOU DIDN'T EVEN COMMENT ON THE THREAD.HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A THAI BRIDE?I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND A SITE TO HELP IMPROVE YOUR SAD EXISTANCE(in lower case of course):-

www.getalifeutit.com

fool - you can't even get that right. Run along...

bazbadger

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

softlad wrote:

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!

you're right, it certainly does get noticed - everybody says "look at that idiot typing in caps".......[/quot

I'D IMAGINE THAT SOMEONE WITH MORE THAN 3300 POSTS ON AN INTERNET FORUM HAS BIGGER ISSUES TO ADDRESS THAN WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER USER HAS LEFT THEIR CAPS LOCK ON.YOU DIDN'T EVEN COMMENT ON THE THREAD.HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A THAI BRIDE?I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND A SITE TO HELP IMPROVE YOUR SAD EXISTANCE(in lower case of course):-

www.getalifeutit.com

People might "look" at your post, but they won't read it - because it's not easily readable.

After that comment though, you may have burnt your bridges anyway.

Good luck.

Chip \'oyler

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

softlad wrote:

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!

you're right, it certainly does get noticed - everybody says "look at that idiot typing in caps".......[/quot

I'D IMAGINE THAT SOMEONE WITH MORE THAN 3300 POSTS ON AN INTERNET FORUM HAS BIGGER ISSUES TO ADDRESS THAN WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER USER HAS LEFT THEIR CAPS LOCK ON.YOU DIDN'T EVEN COMMENT ON THE THREAD.HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A THAI BRIDE?I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND A SITE TO HELP IMPROVE YOUR SAD EXISTANCE(in lower case of course):-

www.getalifeutit.com

HELLO!

WHAT?

I'M ON THE TRAIN... ad nauseum

valerian

All the paranoia surrounding carbon frames does tend to put me off a bit...will it dissolve in water, will that head-on impact with a bumble bee cause irreparable damage etc etc etc.
Fortunately I couldn't afford one anway, so I'll sleep easy at night.

vorsprung

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

softlad wrote:

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!

you're right, it certainly does get noticed - everybody says "look at that idiot typing in caps".......[/quot

I'D IMAGINE THAT SOMEONE WITH MORE THAN 3300 POSTS ON AN INTERNET FORUM HAS BIGGER ISSUES TO ADDRESS THAN WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER USER HAS LEFT THEIR CAPS LOCK ON.YOU DIDN'T EVEN COMMENT ON THE THREAD.HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A THAI BRIDE?I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND A SITE TO HELP IMPROVE YOUR SAD EXISTANCE(in lower case of course):-

www.getalifeutit.com

dear mr confused, FYI

I am going to ignore you as you seem to be rude and only interested in starting an argument. I would guess that other forum users will be doing the same

sherer

vorsprung wrote:

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

softlad wrote:

confusedrider.com!!! wrote:

CAPS LOCK GETS NOTICED,lower case doesn't!

you're right, it certainly does get noticed - everybody says "look at that idiot typing in caps".......[/quot

I'D IMAGINE THAT SOMEONE WITH MORE THAN 3300 POSTS ON AN INTERNET FORUM HAS BIGGER ISSUES TO ADDRESS THAN WHETHER OR NOT ANOTHER USER HAS LEFT THEIR CAPS LOCK ON.YOU DIDN'T EVEN COMMENT ON THE THREAD.HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A THAI BRIDE?I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND A SITE TO HELP IMPROVE YOUR SAD EXISTANCE(in lower case of course):-

www.getalifeutit.com

dear mr confused, FYI

I am going to ignore you as you seem to be rude and only interested in starting an argument. I would guess that other forum users will be doing the same

I must admit I was going to contribute to this thread but i've been put off now.

Cyclists are usually the most friendly helpful people i've met but for some people there is no help.

Lillywhite

sherer wrote:

I must admit I was going to contribute to this thread but i've been put off now.

Cyclists are usually the most friendly helpful people i've met but for some people there is no help.

I agree. Let the OP make his own mind up about buying a second-hand carbon frame since he doesn't seem the sort of person to take advice. :oops: