BBC worlds coverage (no results mentioned)

northernneil

was ok, but concentrated purely on the mens RR, barely skimmed over the womens and the TT ?

they had an hour ....... could do better IMHO

gsk82

i'd imagine its because the mens RR is the flagship event. apart from knowing the result and seeing possibly the last 100metres does anyone care about the womens race? time trial coverage is hardly condusive to thrilling tv, highlights arent exactly highlighting much.

as far as i'm concerned the less time having to hear "[enter nation] are attacking now in the crouching style of the former track [enter track discipline] rider [enter incorrect persons name]" the better.

andyp

They had over 2 hours of highlights of the time trials and the womens road race on yesterday afternoon!

nickwill

My main problem with BBC's coverage relates to the quality of the commentary. No recognition of individual riders and tactics and moves totally misread. Without giving anything away, Hugh Porter and Cris Boardman completely misunderstood where one of the main protagonists was in the closing stages, even though it was obvious from home. There were even clues from the captions on the screen. It was possibly one of the worst gaffes I've seen in recent years of watcing cycling on the tv. Even Duffers would have done a better job!
The women's road race was as bad. He seemed to make random stabs at identifying British riders, and in most cases got it wrong.

mr_poll

I didn't witness this myself but apparently during the live BBC coverage (red button I think) - the commentators announced they needed a break for 10 minutes and then for the next 10 mins the coverage was quiet. Professionalism at it's best from Mr Porter!

Also found the bits of Chris Boardman walking up the climbs in the middle of race bloody annoying - I presume he did this on the mens RR I watched the Eurosport coverage this morning fed up of the beeb coverage.

However at least they are covering the sport be nice if their Sport's Radio Station did the same - no mention of the ~TOB or the Worlds - but lots of inane chatter about the football they have lost the rights for.

luckao

I started to feel bad for Porter. He knew he'd messed, and Boardman - who wasn't any less culpable, otherwise he'd have corrected him at the time - only wanted to distance himself from the blunder.

There was a brief moment early on in last night's online coverage where it cut to a loop of a roundup of the day's sports action. Not that there was much to miss at the time.

phil s

mr_poll wrote:

However at least they are covering the sport be nice if their Sport's Radio Station did the same - no mention of the ~TOB or the Worlds - but lots of inane chatter about the football they have lost the rights for.

They do.

BlackdownBuzzard

northernneil wrote:

was ok, but concentrated purely on the mens RR, barely skimmed over the womens and the TT ?

they had an hour ....... could do better IMHO

If you wanted those highlights, why didn't you watch the correct program?

Sorry but you come across as a bit of a pillock to put it nicely.

wasabi_m

Nickwill

couldn't have put it better myself.

mr_poll

phil s wrote:

mr_poll wrote:

However at least they are covering the sport be nice if their Sport's Radio Station did the same - no mention of the ~TOB or the Worlds - but lots of inane chatter about the football they have lost the rights for.

They do.

They do what? Mention it - didnt hear a squeek about the TOB and for the worlds they mentioned the winners in the bulletin but nothing else - i listen quite a lot but forgive me if you can point out a decent section of coverage - a solid 10/15mins discussion.

As for rights - no longer they only get half the games now - the others are on commercial, talk sport I think.

mr_poll

mr_poll wrote:

phil s wrote:

mr_poll wrote:

However at least they are covering the sport be nice if their Sport's Radio Station did the same - no mention of the ~TOB or the Worlds - but lots of inane chatter about the football they have lost the rights for.

They do.

They do what? Mention it - didnt hear a squeek about the TOB and for the worlds they mentioned the winners in the bulletin but nothing else - i listen quite a lot but forgive me if you can point out a decent section of coverage - a solid 10/15mins discussion.

As for rights - no longer they only get half the games now - the others are on commercial, talk sport I think.

Actually I stand corrected they gave the Contador doping scandal plenty of coverage including Nicki "self righteous pr**k" Campbell the opportunity to go on about it on the breakfast show when interviewing their cycling correspondent.

pedro118118

I didn't watch the BBC coverage, as I have access to Eurosport and I like the insight of Sean Kelly. Hugh Porter drives me mad - he's always banging on about the various riders' track acheivements. Frankly I don't give a monkeys whether a rider is a successful pursuiter or points racer in the winter - it's hardly relevent in the context of a 260km road race. He even mentioned it when talking about David Millar........ie "Millar has posted some useful times on the 4000m IP on the boards of Manchester". No mention of the GT stage wins, numerous TTs and one day wins/podiums etc.

northernneil

just in response to being called a p!llock, this is what I did :-

opened up TV guide

Saw "Jill Douglas presents highlights of road cycling's World Championships." on at 1pm

recorded it

watched it

sorry if that was the wrong program

Garrigou

With every respect to Hugh Porter's riding palmares, he's been a liability as a commentator for a few years now. The 'Gilbert-gate' gaffe just being a shining example of his diminishing ability to (a) identify riders, (b) follow the pictures on the screen, (c) read tactics, (d) do the simple maths when commentating on a Points Race. He should retire gracefully while he's narrowly ahead.

pedro118118

Garrigou wrote:

With every respect to Hugh Porter's riding palmares, he's been a liability as a commentator for a few years now. The 'Gilbert-gate' gaffe just being a shining example of his diminishing ability to (a) identify riders, (b) follow the pictures on the screen, (c) read tactics, (d) do the simple maths when commentating on a Points Race. He should retire gracefully while he's narrowly ahead.

I agree.

Frankly, I don't see why we need two cycling 'experts'. One decent broadcaster (who, if professional enough, will know his stuff) and one former cyclist would do fine.

reutercrooks

ha ha you poor bast ards,

we have the best over here in australia, Paul Sherwin and Phil liggit.

and they did the TDF as well.

best in the business, and Phill is doing the commonwealth cycling at the mo as well.

reutercrooks

try this link

sbs.com.au which is the channel in australia that always shows the cycling.

all the classics
the TDf
the TOB
all the big track events
Giro
Vuelta
tour of california
tour down under

I think Phill and Paul have buggered off from UK. good on em.

iainf72

reutercrooks wrote:

best in the business, and Phill is doing the commonwealth cycling at the mo as well.

I think you'll find everyone here is going to laugh if you think Phil and Paul are the best in the business.

Pross

reutercrooks wrote:

ha ha you poor bast ards,

we have the best over here in australia, Paul Sherwin and Phil liggit.

and they did the TDF as well.

best in the business, and Phill is doing the commonwealth cycling at the mo as well.

Nice to see that we have reverted to sending our criminals off to Oz so they can't bother us anymore

Le Commentateur

reutercrooks wrote:

try this link


I think Phill and Paul have buggered off from UK. good on em.

They just sell the same product to different places in the English-speaking world, playing the media rights business to their advantage by making essentially one product and selling it to a number of different broadcasting territories worldwide. Yes, there's a reason Ligget is a millionaire and drives a Porsche. Their TdF shows get sold to Australia, S Africa, the USA and UK, with minor regional differences tacked on.

reutercrooks

iainf72 wrote:

reutercrooks wrote:

best in the business, and Phill is doing the commonwealth cycling at the mo as well.

I think you'll find everyone here is going to laugh if you think Phil and Paul are the best in the business.

they better than the eurosport guys thats for sure and they were the ones who I use to listen to when I first started out in cycling.

though I have to laugh everytime I here the phrase 'heads of state'

and the other unfortunate thing with Down Under coverage and commentry is they never mention anything to do with the bikes, for fear of advertising or endorsment.

avoidingmyphd

reutercrooks wrote:

the other unfortunate thing with Down Under coverage and commentry is they never mention anything to do with the bikes, for fear of advertising or endorsment.

as mentioned above, you do know that they aren't doing any special down under coverage for you don't you? they are doing one commentary, broadcast in lots and lots of places and - I'm guessing here - the occasional piece to camera with branding from your Australian broadcaster. It's highly unlikely that you can spot the features of the commentary which are shaped by local pressures. Only the pieces to camera are unique to down under. If they actually add anything of value to the coverage, they are truly unique.