World Champs U23 Men's RR *SPOILER*
frenchfighter
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Sprint, group of 46 riders. The guy that won apparently did no work apart from in the last few metres. Really hope the big boys do some damage like last year.
1 Michael Matthews (Australia) 4:01:23
2 John Degenkolb (Germany)
3 Taylor Phinney (United States Of America)
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Why your obsession with doing or not doing the work? Your boy Gilbert might very well win on Sunday without doing any work. Hey, he didn't 'do any work' in Toledofrenchfighter wrote:Sprint, group of 46 riders. The guy that won apparently di no work apart from in the last few metres.0 -
Last year's Worlds. He did little work and didn't place - maybe because he had no legs. However he is an out and out attacker with panache which is why I ike him and proves himself again and again as a worker.
Here are the videos, look how much work Cancellara did. Would quite possibly have won if he had had more help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUplAPmV61I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ14YIUouyE
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Michael Matthews is an all round rider with a big sprint. He's going to Rabobank for 2011 after some impressive results all season. He's just 19 years old too.0
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When you say out and out attacker with panache I assume you mean he does no work until the last couple of kms as opposed to a protected sprinter who does no work until the last 300m? Not much of a difference really, no team leader will work unless they are in a break.0
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Pretty boy, nicknamed 'Bling'...
After a long running solo move by US champion Ben King, everything was back together for the final lap. A courageous attack by Tony Gallopin saw the Frenchman go clear six kilometres from the line and open up a promising lead. However the long, straight roads ensured that those behind could see him, spurring them on, and with three kilometres to go the chase was fully organised and closing in.
Ben King won the US Champs with a huge solo break - quality stuff.Contador is the Greatest0 -
North American riders Taylor Phinney (USA) and Guillaume Boivin (Canada) will share a unique piece of history, with the duo the first to tie for a medal in U23 road race world championship history.Contador is the Greatest0
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Pross wrote:When you say out and out attacker with panache I assume you mean he does no work until the last couple of kms as opposed to a protected sprinter who does no work until the last 300m? Not much of a difference really, no team leader will work unless they are in a break.
Are you serious? Are you aware of Gilbert's wins and the way he attacks sometimes from very far out relatively speaking?Contador is the Greatest0 -
Matthews is a great winner, 2nd at Ronde van Vlaanderen U23, top-10 at Tour de l'Avenir, and still very young - a great buy for Rabobank. Let's hope they give him time to develop.
FF is right in that Degenkolb might have come closer had he not gone into the attack twice (and started the sprint early), although the difference at the finish was huge. None of the others on the podium attacked either though. It's part of racing.
BTW Boivin and Phinney were joint third - both on the podium (they only had one bronze medal so they had to hold it together)0 -
frenchfighter wrote:North American riders Taylor Phinney (USA) and Guillaume Boivin (Canada) will share a unique piece of history, with the duo the first to tie for a medal in U23 road race world championship history.
Fair enough, looking at the photo-finish
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Best UK finisher: Luke Rowe in 11th
Ben King here:
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frenchfighter wrote:Pross wrote:When you say out and out attacker with panache I assume you mean he does no work until the last couple of kms as opposed to a protected sprinter who does no work until the last 300m? Not much of a difference really, no team leader will work unless they are in a break.
Are you serious? Are you aware of Gilbert's wins and the way he attacks sometimes from very far out relatively speaking?
Really? I was totally unaware of that as I've never watched cycling :shock: You are missing the point though or probably I didn't phrase it very well. What I was trying to say is that any team leader / protected rider will ride to their strengths and won't work until they have to, that's the whole point of domestiques isn't it? In Gilbert's case that would mean he sits in until he either goes off for a solo break or gets into a breakaway group. In the case of Cavendish it would be until his team deliver him to the start of a sprint. Judging by the margin of victory the Aussie lad is a decent sprinter, the group was very large so I assume it was just whittled down rather than a break which formed so surely it is reasonable for him to take an easy ride and go for the sprint? Surely that's part of the varied tactics of bike racing? If on the other hand the 40 odd rider lead group were going through and off and he was missing his turns whilst everyone else worked then you may have a point but I doubt that was the case.0 -
frenchfighter wrote:Are you serious? Are you aware of Gilbert's wins and the way he attacks sometimes from very far out relatively speaking?
If Pip was in a group in the worlds, where he was the best sprinter and had a team mate with him, how much work would he do?
As little as possible is the answer.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Were they riding the same course as the Men's?
Seems like a pretty large bunch finish for what is considered to be a reasonably selective coruse.0 -
U-23 racing isn't as practiced as the pros, bigger groups are possible as riders watch each other.
But if the circuit has a hill to be climbed 20 times, it's also got a long descent and if some riders get ejected, plenty can hang on. My greatest fear is someone like Allan Davis sneaks the win by doing nothing.0 -
Watched Eurosport's coverage this morning.
I'm not unsurprised that such a large group were in the hunt, the course was hard, but the riders aren't quite as keen to work for another rider from a different team as the Elites are.Remember that you are an Englishman and thus have won first prize in the lottery of life.0 -
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Taylor's gonna be incredible over the next 10 years. Won the TT and almost wins the RR?! Wow.0
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frenchfighter wrote:
Sprint, group of 46 riders. The guy that won apparently did no work apart from in the last few metres.
Sounds like a good lad."A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"
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