FAO those with experience of cruds

spoiltdouglas

As the weather appears to be turning for the worse im going to have to get some mudguards. Ive decided on the crud roadracer mk2s however before i bought i thought id see if anybody has any idea if they will fit my cannondale? its the 2010 caad8, 51cm frame. If anybody has fitted or tried to fit a pair on this model of bike then please let me know.

cheers

dmch2

It might be a silly question but what's the point of mudguards? If you're already wet from the rain then what's a bit of spray going to do?

sungod

dmch2 wrote:

It might be a silly question but what's the point of mudguards? If you're already wet from the rain then what's a bit of spray going to do?

with crud guards my feet and bum stay pretty dry

without, on a wet day it takes a few minutes for them to be wet through, with a muddy stripe up the back

the water coming off tyres is a lot more violent than most rain, and dirty too

John Stevenson

spoiltdouglas wrote:

As the weather appears to be turning for the worse im going to have to get some mudguards. Ive decided on the crud roadracer mk2s however before i bought i thought id see if anybody has any idea if they will fit my cannondale? its the 2010 caad8, 51cm frame. If anybody has fitted or tried to fit a pair on this model of bike then please let me know.

cheers

If you have 5mm between brake and tyre then you pretty much be certain they'll fit.

dmch2

sungod wrote:

dmch2 wrote:

It might be a silly question but what's the point of mudguards? If you're already wet from the rain then what's a bit of spray going to do?

with crud guards my feet and bum stay pretty dry

without, on a wet day it takes a few minutes for them to be wet through, with a muddy stripe up the back

the water coming off tyres is a lot more violent than most rain, and dirty too

That answers the question then - thanks

I've only ever commuted in heavy rain which wasn't far enough to get cold from rain.

bendertherobot

The worst thing about rain is soaking shoes, dirty shoes, water up the bum and water up the back of you.

If you can avoid that then the rest is easy. Cruds rock.

Old Pedaller

According to Mr Crud if you have 4mm clearance then they will fit. I asked in relation to my own bike.

datpat64

These guards are great for anyone riding close behind you as well. There's virtually nothing thrown up with these, so when you're in a group the folk behind you will love you for fitting these !

stannie

I tried to fit the new Crudguard Mk !I on my Specialized Ruby 51cm this weekend and they are way too big! There is no way they will fit without a lot of adjustment with a stanley knife/dremel.
It is not the clearance between the guards and the frame, it is the length of the guards that is a problem - I would probably have been better with the Mk 1s which do not have the extension.
I don't know what they will be like on the Cannondale, but anyone with a small frame bike needs to check they will fit first.

Hals1967

bendertherobot wrote:

The worst thing about rain is soaking shoes, dirty shoes, water up the bum and water up the back of you.

If you can avoid that then the rest is easy. Cruds rock.

Water up the back is bad enough, but that upspray right under the chin from the front wheel when you turn a little is worse !

Fank gawd for Cruds.

bendertherobot

Hals1967 wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

The worst thing about rain is soaking shoes, dirty shoes, water up the bum and water up the back of you.

If you can avoid that then the rest is easy. Cruds rock.

Water up the back is bad enough, but that upspray right under the chin from the front wheel when you turn a little is worse !

Fank gawd for Cruds.

Word. I think I hate the upspray from the front and water on the shoes from the front most of all.

rolf_f

Also noticed that, mudguardless, any decent rain will wash out the grease from my knackered rear bearings in one commute resulting in clattery bearings until I strip them and regrease. The mudguards going back on seems to have stopped that. And, as already said, kept my feet much dryer.

I think the cruds I have for my new bike will probably be mounted permanently

bompington

dmch2 wrote:

I've only ever commuted in heavy rain

Oh come on, surely the sun must have shone sometimes

bendertherobot

Rolf F wrote:

Also noticed that, mudguardless, any decent rain will wash out the grease from my knackered rear bearings in one commute resulting in clattery bearings until I strip them and regrease. The mudguards going back on seems to have stopped that. And, as already said, kept my feet much dryer.

I think the cruds I have for my new bike will probably be mounted permanently

My new cyclescheme winter steed will arrive soon and they are going on there for the duration.

dmch2

bompington wrote:

dmch2 wrote:

I've only ever commuted in heavy rain

Oh come on, surely the sun must have shone sometimes

I meant that the only time I've cycled in heavy rain was on a few of my commutes, most of which were dry. I've not (yet) been rained on when on my road bike.

But you knew what I meant didn't you :?

Chris James

bendertherobot wrote:

The worst thing about rain is soaking shoes, dirty shoes, water up the bum and water up the back of you.

If you can avoid that then the rest is easy. Cruds rock.

Quite, especially if you cycle through roads with cow muck on them. Cow muck sprayed all over your drink bottles isn't nice.

Your shoes slowly filling up with water is unpleasant too.

The spray of water not only makes my back cold and soaking but hits the underside of the saddle and works its way down the seatpost, not matter how well it is greased. I let about half a cup of water out of the frame after riding on Sunday. Not great for steel frames, or for the bottom bracket sitting in the pool of water.

The mudguards are going on again for winter. Summers over as far as I am concerned!

rick_chasey

dmch2 wrote:

It might be a silly question but what's the point of mudguards? If you're already wet from the rain then what's a bit of spray going to do?

I'm not a fan of enemas, even with clean water.

Maybe you're just used to it

Anonymous

dmch2 wrote:

It might be a silly question but what's the point of mudguards? If you're already wet from the rain then what's a bit of spray going to do?

It's a lot worse with spray. Without mudguards it's dirty grimy spray too. And when it stops raining without mudguards you and your bike carry on getting covered in all sorts of sh1te.

redvee

Ordered a set from Evans today for the princely sum of a Parkers price match After riding at the weekend with MK1.5s on my bike I took great delight in the knowledge I could do puddles and have only wet tyre tracks to show for it.

spoiltdouglas

cheers guys for your input, again very much appreciated. Ive order myself a pair of the mk2s and look forward to spending an entire afternoon trying to fit them

doyler78

redvee wrote:

Ordered a set from Evans today for the princely sum of a Parkers price match After riding at the weekend with MK1.5s on my bike I took great delight in the knowledge I could do puddles and have only wet tyre tracks to show for it.

Why didn't you just get the from Parkers?

johncp

singletrackanne wrote:

I tried to fit the new Crudguard Mk !I on my Specialized Ruby 51cm this weekend and they are way too big! There is no way they will fit without a lot of adjustment with a stanley knife/dremel.
It is not the clearance between the guards and the frame, it is the length of the guards that is a problem - I would probably have been better with the Mk 1s which do not have the extension.
I don't know what they will be like on the Cannondale, but anyone with a small frame bike needs to check they will fit first.

But the guards are made to the length of the wheel which is the same on majority of bikes - or do you have 650s? :?:

spoiltdouglas "cheers guys for your input, again very much appreciated. Ive order myself a pair of the mk2s and look forward to spending an entire afternoon trying to fit them"
Don't be so pessimistic, i've just refitted mine to winter bike and it took all of 10 minutes

ratsbeyfus

doyler78 wrote:

redvee wrote:

Ordered a set from Evans today for the princely sum of a Parkers price match After riding at the weekend with MK1.5s on my bike I took great delight in the knowledge I could do puddles and have only wet tyre tracks to show for it.

Why didn't you just get the from Parkers?

Can't speak for doyler but I often use the price match evans thingy coz if you need to return anything you don't have to go to all the effort posting - I can just pop it in to my local evans.

Dalton

I recently purchased a pair of Crud MK2's for my Langster and can confirm they took me bloody ages to fit!

Had to trim the rear guard, where it joins the frame - as was way too long for my bike. Then had to spend lots of time fiddling to get the best fit. Will hopefully be worth it though.

Have to say I like the way they look on the bike.

redvee

doyler78 wrote:

redvee wrote:

Ordered a set from Evans today for the princely sum of a Parkers price match After riding at the weekend with MK1.5s on my bike I took great delight in the knowledge I could do puddles and have only wet tyre tracks to show for it.

Why didn't you just get the from Parkers?

I don't need to be in when Evans get theirs in stock, just await a phonecall on wednesday. I did consider ordering online but at the time when I was in the Evans shop I wasn't aware of Parkers carriage policy, btw its free on £20+ orders.

doyler78

redvee wrote:

doyler78 wrote:

redvee wrote:

Ordered a set from Evans today for the princely sum of a Parkers price match After riding at the weekend with MK1.5s on my bike I took great delight in the knowledge I could do puddles and have only wet tyre tracks to show for it.

Why didn't you just get the from Parkers?

I don't need to be in when Evans get theirs in stock, just await a phonecall on wednesday. I did consider ordering online but at the time when I was in the Evans shop I wasn't aware of Parkers carriage policy, btw its free on £20+ orders.

Fair enough. Forgot about the shop bit as we don't have them over here.