Who Has Right of Way - Work Colleague in Collision.

sc999cs

ericonabike wrote:

I'd be very interested to see a picture of the junction from the cyclist's perspective, and the reply from the council

It is hard to get a proper view but the link I gave is for StreetView so you can move around trying different views. I've been told that there were no give way signs or markings.

Legal aspects aren't the main concern because they didn't swap details which each other. My colleague had just gone over the bonnet so I guess he might have been in shock? (Luckily he was uninjured).

sc999cs

I received a reply from the council about 3 weeks ago, but never had time to post it - if anyone is still curious here it is

The question is whether the entry and exit to the golf range is considered a side road junction or an access. The entrance and exit roads to the site are kerbed as a side road would be, and lined as you would expect at a junction. An access would normally only be a dropped kerb. Further, at the footway/cycleway "crossing" points there is tactile paving on either side. Therefore, it is my opinion the crossing points should be treated the same as crossing a side road, with pedestrians and cyclists applying the same care and caution as they would when crossing any road.

I suspect that the carriageway markings across the road either side of the crossing points were placed there to assist in highlighting to motorists that there is an uncontrolled crossing point/cycle lane present, especially considering the general layout of the road - with the turning head between the footway and the road itself on the entry side, and the hedge line when exiting the golf range. If vehicles using the road were expected to give way to the cycle lane then the appropriate Give Way road marking would have been applied on each of the crossing points.

The Highway Code gives further information with regard to driver, cyclist and pedestrian behaviour and considerations at junctions, side roads and accesses

ericonabike

Thanks for that.

'Therefore, it is my opinion the crossing points should be treated the same as crossing a side road, with pedestrians and cyclists applying the same care and caution as they would when crossing any road.'

Which is why, IMHO, off-carriageway cycle routes give cyclists no advantage, indeed increase their vulnerability by increasing the number of junctions at which they have no right of way. But they do serve to get us out of the way of motorised traffic of course, so that we don't hold them up...

Hope your friend is fully recovered.

RufusA

ericonabike wrote:

Which is why, IMHO, off-carriageway cycle routes give cyclists no advantage, indeed increase their vulnerability by increasing the number of junctions at which they have no right of way.

+1 This example in Galway perfectly illustrates the point (or pointlessness):

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/w ... er2010.htm

Rufus.

sc999cs

ericonabike wrote:

Hope your friend is fully recovered.

He is - and his wife had their first child yesterday