RIBBLE SCURO RS t800 Toray Carbon

Gavin Cook

I am thinking of buying a new bike this winter and I saw the Ribble Scuro RS. Has anyone any idea about this frame ? Is the t800 Toray Carbon any good ? or is it just cheap composite ?

Chip \'oyler

Toray make a lot of carbon for a lot of brands and is considered very good quality. However as in most things it's the skill in laying the fibres up etc which determines a good frame

Gavin Cook

Chip \'oyler wrote:

Toray make a lot of carbon for a lot of brands and is considered very good quality. However as in most things it's the skill in laying the fibres up etc which determines a good frame

Thanks for your reply.

JesseD

It's made by Dedaccai, so it will a great frame and fork. Ribble by the frame and fork and get it sprayed up and branded as their own.

Gavin Cook

JesseD wrote:

It's made by Dedaccai, so it will a great frame and fork. Ribble by the frame and fork and get it sprayed up and branded as their own.

At the moment I am riding a Giant TCR Advanced , do you think I would be down grading if I changed my bike for the Ribble Scruro RS ?

Chip \'oyler

My brother won a road race and got numerous top 6 placings and went up to 2nd cat this year on his Scuro - he loves his.

erkko

I wondered if anybody knows how much the seat clamp of the Scuro RS weights?

Chip \'oyler

erkko wrote:

I wondered if anybody knows how much the seat clamp of the Scuro RS weights?

607 tonnes

JesseD

Gavin Cook wrote:

JesseD wrote:

It's made by Dedaccai, so it will a great frame and fork. Ribble by the frame and fork and get it sprayed up and branded as their own.

At the moment I am riding a Giant TCR Advanced , do you think I would be down grading if I changed my bike for the Ribble Scruro RS ?

Tough call, what year is the Giant?

If it's a 2009/10 model then probably not really noticable, money might be better spent on wheels or a coach (probably best option for all of us) etc, if older then I would say yes, but I haven't ridden the scuro RS but I have done lots of research and they good reviews, and look great which would be good enough for me.

JesseD

Gavin Cook wrote:

JesseD wrote:

It's made by Dedaccai, so it will a great frame and fork. Ribble by the frame and fork and get it sprayed up and branded as their own.

At the moment I am riding a Giant TCR Advanced , do you think I would be down grading if I changed my bike for the Ribble Scruro RS ?

Tough call, what year is the Giant?

If it's a 2009/10 model then probably not really noticable, money might be better spent on wheels or a coach (probably best option for all of us) etc, if older then I would say yes, but I haven't ridden the scuro RS but I have done lots of research and they good reviews, and look great which would be good enough for me.

Gavin Cook

JesseD wrote:

Gavin Cook wrote:

JesseD wrote:

It's made by Dedaccai, so it will a great frame and fork. Ribble by the frame and fork and get it sprayed up and branded as their own.

At the moment I am riding a Giant TCR Advanced , do you think I would be down grading if I changed my bike for the Ribble Scruro RS ?

Tough call, what year is the Giant?

If it's a 2009/10 model then probably not really noticable, money might be better spent on wheels or a coach (probably best option for all of us) etc, if older then I would say yes, but I haven't ridden the scuro RS but I have done lots of research and they good reviews, and look great which would be good enough for me.

JesseD

Gavin Cook wrote:

JesseD wrote:

Gavin Cook wrote:

JesseD wrote:

It's made by Dedaccai, so it will a great frame and fork. Ribble by the frame and fork and get it sprayed up and branded as their own.

At the moment I am riding a Giant TCR Advanced , do you think I would be down grading if I changed my bike for the Ribble Scruro RS ?

Tough call, what year is the Giant?

If it's a 2009/10 model then probably not really noticable, money might be better spent on wheels or a coach (probably best option for all of us) etc, if older then I would say yes, but I haven't ridden the scuro RS but I have done lots of research and they good reviews, and look great which would be good enough for me.

?

you might want to read this, apparently Dedaccai frames are used by some pro teams, rebadged of course.

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... =3&t=75112

erkko

Chip \'oyler wrote:

erkko wrote:

I wondered if anybody knows how much the seat clamp of the Scuro RS weights?

607 tonnes

Thank you for your informative answer.

Chip \'oyler

erkko wrote:

Chip \'oyler wrote:

erkko wrote:

I wondered if anybody knows how much the seat clamp of the Scuro RS weights?

607 tonnes

Thank you for your informative answer.

Don't mention it

Gavin Cook

JesseD wrote:

Gavin Cook wrote:

JesseD wrote:

Gavin Cook wrote:

JesseD wrote:

It's made by Dedaccai, so it will a great frame and fork. Ribble by the frame and fork and get it sprayed up and branded as their own.

At the moment I am riding a Giant TCR Advanced , do you think I would be down grading if I changed my bike for the Ribble Scruro RS ?

Tough call, what year is the Giant?

Thanks JesseD for your reply.
My Giant is a 2009. I am really happy with the frame but I could do with 1 size bigger (M/L)
So I am thinking of selling it and buying the Ribble.

Gavin

rozzer32

Used in the Pro Tour under a different brand. Won a stage at the Giro this year I think.

So can't be that bad

Looked very nice when I was in the shop. Just cheaper because of the branding

I think you will struggle to get a better frame at that price point.

Bar Shaker

Toray are the largest manufacturer of carbon fibre in the world. They make the fibre for the wings of the Airbus A380 and the Dreamliner.

They also make very specialist fibres that the far east factories use to make a whole host of frames.

neeb

Very happy with my Scuro RS.

Note that there is a "Super Scuro" out for 2011...

http://www.dedacciaistrada.com/en/superscuro.htm

I bet Ribble will be carrying this when it is released. Looks like Deda will be marketing the super scuro alongside the Scuro RS rather than replacing it, so it'll be interesting to see how the pricing goes, i.e. whether the RS drops in price or the super is priced towards the higher end of the market.

The super has internal cable routing, carbon rear dropouts and a shorter headtube. Judging by the similar weight, materials and identical fork I'm guessing that it will otherwise be rather similar to the RS.

Gavin Cook

neeb wrote:

Very happy with my Scuro RS.

Note that there is a "Super Scuro" out for 2011...

http://www.dedacciaistrada.com/en/superscuro.htm

I bet Ribble will be carrying this when it is released. Looks like Deda will be marketing the super scuro alongside the Scuro RS rather than replacing it, so it'll be interesting to see how the pricing goes, i.e. whether the RS drops in price or the super is priced towards the higher end of the market.

The super has internal cable routing, carbon rear dropouts and a shorter headtube. Judging by the similar weight, materials and identical fork I'm guessing that it will otherwise be rather similar to the RS.

Anyone know when the Super Scuro will be on sale or if its already on sale where and price etc ?

Thanks
Gavin

Squillinossett

neeb wrote:

Very happy with my Scuro RS.

Note that there is a "Super Scuro" out for 2011...

http://www.dedacciaistrada.com/en/superscuro.htm

I bet Ribble will be carrying this when it is released. Looks like Deda will be marketing the super scuro alongside the Scuro RS rather than replacing it, so it'll be interesting to see how the pricing goes, i.e. whether the RS drops in price or the super is priced towards the higher end of the market.

The super has internal cable routing, carbon rear dropouts and a shorter headtube. Judging by the similar weight, materials and identical fork I'm guessing that it will otherwise be rather similar to the RS.

That looks damm sexy! will be interesting to see where it is priced

neeb

Looks like Dedacciai branded Super Scuro frames are for sale now from a couple of French retailers, but they are quite expensive...

http://www.web-cycle.fr/275-cadre-route-dedacciai

http://www.cycles-bacquet.com/index.php ... aaf6e66372

It will be interesting to see if they will be available from 3rd party retailers for much less, like the Scuro was. I notice that Ribble don't seem to be advertising the Scuro any more in their magazine ads, and although it is still available on the website I guess that is last year's stock? They also seem to have quite a few other models now, so I wonder if they will be doing the Scuro (or Super Scuro) in 2011.

Maybe Dedaccciai are trying to go up market and will restrict sales of unbranded frames in 2011? (or maybe not). They can't have sold many of their own branded frames in the past when they are so much more expensive than the same frame from 3rd party manufacturers.