William Hague
SteveR_100Milers
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Looks scarily like Joe Satriani in those wraparound shades...Lordy whats going on there :shock:
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nothing is going on - which is why his 'close aide' has just resigned and he has felt the need to state publicly that he is 'happily married'....nothing to see here...move along.....0
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softlad wrote:nothing is going on - which is why his 'close aide' has just resigned and he has felt the need to state publicly that he is 'happily married'....nothing to see here...move along.....
I read that mounting pressure on his family due to the internet rumours made it very difficult for him to stay in his job.
As an aside though, and it really is an aside since it's quite obviously a horrible vicious rumour, why, ffs, does it matter if it did happen?0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:softlad wrote:nothing is going on - which is why his 'close aide' has just resigned and he has felt the need to state publicly that he is 'happily married'....nothing to see here...move along.....
I read that mounting pressure on his family due to the internet rumours made it very difficult for him to stay in his job.
As an aside though, and it really is an aside since it's quite obviously a horrible vicious rumour, why, ffs, does it matter if it did happen?
Because Hague's married and it would bring his integrity into question."There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world, t'would be a pity to damage yours."0 -
softlad wrote:nothing is going on - which is why his 'close aide' has just resigned and he has felt the need to state publicly that he is 'happily married'....nothing to see here...move along.....
I was referring to his uncanny resemblance in one photo to the great satch, not his current predilection for perhaps overstating his heterosexuality....0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:As an aside though, and it really is an aside since it's quite obviously a horrible vicious rumour, why, ffs, does it matter if it did happen?
It wouldn't matter in the slightest if he was gay - and in principle I support the notion that even MPs are entitled to a private life. But it would matter if he had been deceitful and hypocritical in an attempt to conceal it...0 -
SteveR_100Milers wrote:
I was referring to his uncanny resemblance in one photo to the great satch, not his current predilection for perhaps overstating his heterosexuality....
sorry, that was too clever for me..
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softlad wrote:SteveR_100Milers wrote:
I was referring to his uncanny resemblance in one photo to the great satch, not his current predilection for perhaps overstating his heterosexuality....
sorry, that was too clever for me..
sh1t he looks like rock god satriani. WTF is all that about then?? Oh and he must be a raving ponce as he keeps going on about the fact he aint.
Not that I care what he does behind closed doors, thats his private life, but impersonating rock stars just isn't cool. He should resign now.0 -
softlad wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:As an aside though, and it really is an aside since it's quite obviously a horrible vicious rumour, why, ffs, does it matter if it did happen?
It wouldn't matter in the slightest if he was gay - and in principle I support the notion that even MPs are entitled to a private life. But it would matter if he had been deceitful and hypocritical in an attempt to conceal it...
And why do you think he would try to conceal such a thing?
Because the public are so tolerant? :roll:
If anything this story demonstrates the total opposite - that the public are not tolerant, and turn stories, sorry - rumours - into vicious rumours.
It's got nothing to do with integrity, and everything to do with the public reaction.0 -
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Rick Chasey wrote:
And why do you think he would try to conceal such a thing?
Because the public are so tolerant? :roll:
If anything this story demonstrates the total opposite - that the public are not tolerant, and turn stories, sorry - rumours - into vicious rumours.
It's got nothing to do with integrity, and everything to do with the public reaction.
I guess if he is genuinely hetero, then he has nothing to fear, and is entitled to feel a little bit hard done by.
I would hate to think that he was maintaining a pointless charade for the sake of his political career. There are plenty of openly-gay MPs which the public seem perfectly capable of 'tolerating' and after all, this is not the 1950s....0 -
softlad wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:
And why do you think he would try to conceal such a thing?
Because the public are so tolerant? :roll:
If anything this story demonstrates the total opposite - that the public are not tolerant, and turn stories, sorry - rumours - into vicious rumours.
It's got nothing to do with integrity, and everything to do with the public reaction.
I guess if he is genuinely hetero, then he has nothing to fear, and is entitled to feel a little bit hard done by.
I would hate to think that he was maintaining a pointless charade for the sake of his political career. There are plenty of openly-gay MPs which the public seem perfectly capable of 'tolerating' and after all, this is not the 1950s....
Then why has the aide resigned?
He's not made a statement regarding the rumour untill he was forced to resign.
The aide clearly felt there was pressure on his family - enough to resign. That pressure wasn't the pressure of trying to preserve 'intregrity'.
Everyone wants to keep their private life private. It's entirely reasonable to expect the same of politicians. It's ultimately their job and as long as they behave within the law and in ways which do not affect their work, and an incident like the one rumoured here shouldn't (though, given the public reaction, it clearly does), then it should be kept as such.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:softlad wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:As an aside though, and it really is an aside since it's quite obviously a horrible vicious rumour, why, ffs, does it matter if it did happen?
It wouldn't matter in the slightest if he was gay - and in principle I support the notion that even MPs are entitled to a private life. But it would matter if he had been deceitful and hypocritical in an attempt to conceal it...
And why do you think he would try to conceal such a thing?
Because the public are so tolerant? :roll:
If anything this story demonstrates the total opposite - that the public are not tolerant, and turn stories, sorry - rumours - into vicious rumours.
It's got nothing to do with integrity, and everything to do with the public reaction.
It would be to do with integrity. He's married and, as old fashioned as it may seem, that means something to a lot of people, who would never trust him again."There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world, t'would be a pity to damage yours."0 -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... liberation
He explains what I'm driving at much better
(what are the odds you read the whole article?...)0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:
Then why has the aide resigned?
He's not made a statement regarding the rumour untill he was forced to resign.
The aide clearly felt there was pressure on his family - enough to resign. That pressure wasn't the pressure of trying to preserve 'intregrity'.
Everyone wants to keep their private life private. It's entirely reasonable to expect the same of politicians. It's ultimately their job and as long as they behave within the law and in ways which do not affect their work, and an incident like the one rumoured here shouldn't (though, given the public reaction, it clearly does), then it should be kept as such.
you're making the classic mistake of taking the carefully-baked PR story at face-value. I would be very suprised if the truth wasn't a little different.
Either way, I couldn't really give a stuff....0 -
If they were having a relationship it would have been stupid in the extreme to have shared a hotel room, they would have made every attempt to allay suspicion. It isn't uncommon for two people of the same sex to sleep in the same room, sports teams make their players double up all the time.
That's why hotels offer rooms with twin beds.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:(what are the odds you read the whole article?...)
pretty good, I would say....0 -
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Smokin Joe wrote:It isn't uncommon for two people of the same sex to sleep in the same room, sports teams make their players double up all the time.
That's why hotels offer rooms with twin beds.
That may be true of sports teams and of other walks of life, but in this instance, the initial rumour was that of the group that were with Hague, ONLY he and Wright shared a room, the remainder had their own rooms, paid for out of the Conservative Parties election funds. In this case, the blogger who broke the rumour stated that Hague paid the bill for his room personally. If this is true (big IF, but then no-one has actually denied it thus far!) then this is at best hugely naive of Hague (and that is understating it) and at worst evidence that the rumours may be true. I couldn't care less either if any of them are Gay. The whole parliament could be, so long as they make the right decisions and are trustworthy, honest and effective public servants, who cares what sexual preferences they have?
Of course, 25 year old drivers always stay in their millionaire bosses rooms overnight don't they? And it is only a natural promotion for them to become 'Special Advisor' on however many thousands a year once said boss becomes Foreign Secretary. Isn't it? Oh wait, something doesn't seem too transparent here...0 -
There's no smoke without fire, nudge nudge wink wink, if he's denying it then it must be true, I always thought he looked a bit funny, bla bla bla0
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Who the hell cares whether he is gay or not? As long as he's competent in his ministerial position and as an MP, why should it matter?
OFC, if it were true, one would have to feel sorry for his wife, and indeed for him for feeling like he had to keep his sexuality hidden for so many years. However, it is balls to say it calls into question his integrity - it relates to his private life and is of no concern to anyone else.
FOAD (not the rude version BTW), I have never voted Conservative in my entire life, but I do not feel that this story is in any way newsworthy, whatever Hague's sexual preferences may - ir may not - be."A gentleman who goes by the name Upgrayedd. Which he spells thusly, with two D's, as he says, "for a double dose of this pimping."0 -
As long as he doesn't lie to the House, that's what did for Profumo, not actually sh*gging Christine Keeler but denying it to the House when asked, he shouldn't have a problem. As has been pointed out, if he had shared a room with a junior aide it is because he is a Yorkshireman and too tight to pay for two rooms.0
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It's toss "news" stories like this that make me loathe the British press so much. A fascination for the both the banal goings-on of celebrities and a childish fascination with people's sex lives. Exhibit B - Paris Hilton's arrest for alleged cocaine possession making the headline on BBC News.
FFS."A gentleman who goes by the name Upgrayedd. Which he spells thusly, with two D's, as he says, "for a double dose of this pimping."0 -
UPGRAYEDD wrote:It's toss "news" stories like this that make me loathe the British press so much. A fascination for the both the banal goings-on of celebrities and a childish fascination with people's sex lives. Exhibit B - Paris Hilton's arrest for alleged cocaine possession making the headline on BBC News.
FFS.
Exactly. 'News' is completely celebrity driven today (and has been for a long time). A news reader will now go from worthy news like " Two more british soldiers have lost their lifes due to suicide bombers" followed by "Paris Hilton itches her knee whilst eating a bagel!"
There seems to be more and more news taken up by complete tosh, when you'd think it should be completely the opposite. Privacy is slowly becoming extinct. Suppose that's why the media are loved so much?Pain is weakness leaving the body.....I have a lot of weakness!
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As has been pointed out, if he had shared a room with a junior aide it is because he is a Yorkshireman and too tight to pay for two rooms.
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UPGRAYEDD wrote:Who the hell cares whether he is gay or not? As long as he's competent in his ministerial position and as an MP, why should it matter?
OFC, if it were true, one would have to feel sorry for his wife, and indeed for him for feeling like he had to keep his sexuality hidden for so many years. However, it is balls to say it calls into question his integrity - it relates to his private life and is of no concern to anyone else.
FOAD (not the rude version BTW), I have never voted Conservative in my entire life, but I do not feel that this story is in any way newsworthy, whatever Hague's sexual preferences may - ir may not - be.
While sexuality is a private matter, a marriage is not - it is a very public declaration that can only be made under license and supervision by public officials, who record it in public records.
Your argument is only valid if Conservative policy has nothing to say about how people conduct their family lives or how seriously they take the institution of marriage.
AFAIK, the Conservative party still promotes "family values" so if Hague's marriage is a sham it would demonstrate his hypocrisy as a member of that party.0 -
TBH I'm not sure it makes a jot of difference if the Advisor in question is male or female or a goat. The alleged scandal here was that he was paying somebody money from the public purse for a role he was unqualified for, purely so he could keep his bit on the side to hand/in luxury.
Turns out it wasn't true. Move on."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:TBH I'm not sure it makes a jot of difference if the Advisor in question is male or female or a goat. The alleged scandal here was that he was paying somebody money from the public purse for a role he was unqualified for, purely so he could keep his bit on the side to hand/in luxury.
Turns out it wasn't true. Move on.
Hague in Goat-Bed Beard-Tickler Shocker!
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expect to see an increase in politicians showing how much they are a family man/woman and love their doting wives/husbands/sex slaves and lots of photos of them looking longingly and lovingly into each others eyes, hugging the immaculate dressed children etc etc through the media in all its shapes/forms/guises - oh its already started......
Get your sickbag out !!!!
more sickbags at the double!!!!
Interesting!
Ah... I feel all warm and fuzzy ....
Yeah getting bored myself now.. gotta go pick up Quentin from his baby yoga class & must remember to blackberry Basil about his violin class whilst he is out skiing in Aspen'since the flaming telly's been taken away, we don't even know if the Queen of Englands gone off with the dustman'.
Lizzie Birdsworth, Episode 64, Prisoner Cell Block H.0 -
Christ Ninj you are one bitter man :?0
