Avid Elixir 4

bennett_346

The brakes that came on the 2010 pitch pro are Avid Elixir 4, i know these were custom specced by specialized but how do they actually differ from say elixir 5s? Is it something simple like the fluid or pad type?

I can't find anything online so i'm hoping someone here can shed light on this for me

nicklouse

more of based on the 3.

but could be a 5 lever assy with 3 inners. like the 3.5 but with added adjuster.

smegurmum

the Elixer 4's have the elixer 5 levers and a juicy 3 caliper

bennett_346

Im not sure of the name of the part, but the part where the lever is attached to looks identical to the elixir 5 and different to the 3. Are they likely to have the same power as more expensive elixirs but without the ajustability features like tool-less reach and hose angle ajust?

nicklouse

no the same.

the 3,5 has the twin bolt lever assy of the 5 with the 3 internals.

All the juciy brakes have the same power but differing weights and adjustments.

bennett_346

Thanks for all the info, now just wondering how they compare to other hydraulic brakes such as the formula RX.

nicklouse

i rate Formula over Avids.

bennett_346

nicklouse wrote:

i rate Formula over Avids.

Just thats probably the only thing id upgrade on my bike, unless other components wear and i decide to get better ones. Might give formulas a try if i ever take the bike to more extreme locations.

ricardo_smooth

Go hope or nothing IMO! (or at least that's what I'll do when I upgrade my elixir 4's )

peter413

nicklouse wrote:

no the same.

the 3,5 has the twin bolt lever assy of the 5 with the 3 internals.

All the juciy brakes have the same power but differing weights and adjustments.

I'm confused there, when you say juicy, do you mean elixir?

bennett_346

peter413 wrote:

nicklouse wrote:

no the same.

the 3,5 has the twin bolt lever assy of the 5 with the 3 internals.

All the juciy brakes have the same power but differing weights and adjustments.

I'm confused there, when you say juicy, do you mean elixir?

Yeah same lol

nicklouse

peter413 wrote:

nicklouse wrote:

no the same.

the 3,5 has the twin bolt lever assy of the 5 with the 3 internals.

All the juciy brakes have the same power but differing weights and adjustments.

I'm confused there, when you say juicy, do you mean elixir?

so i was

Elixir 4 (not pictured) includes Elixir 5 lever assembly and Juicy 3 caliper assembly.

bennett_346

nicklouse wrote:

peter413 wrote:

nicklouse wrote:

no the same.

the 3,5 has the twin bolt lever assy of the 5 with the 3 internals.

All the juciy brakes have the same power but differing weights and adjustments.

I'm confused there, when you say juicy, do you mean elixir?

so i was

Elixir 4 (not pictured) includes Elixir 5 lever assembly and Juicy 3 caliper assembly.

So i assume it takes juicy pads?

ricardo_smooth

Yes

bennett_346

ricardo_smooth wrote:

Yes

Thanks

TorskeTunger

I'm looking to buy a new hardtail MTB. I've had my Specialized Rockhopper for so long now that it's practically a museum piece, but it's served me well over the years. I'm an enthusiastic amateur, and it's all about FUN rather than competing ( in other words, I have no real skills and precious little technique ). I've been looking at the Boardman Mountain Bike Pro and the 2010 Specialized Rockhopper SL Pro. Which one is the better bike ? I get the impression that some of the components on the Boardman are higher spec, plus the bike seems to be a bit cheaper. Is it better value for money ? I'm not particularly keen on buying anything from Halfords, but maybe I could get it built up and serviced by EBC. In comparing the specs, I note that all the literature states that the Rockhopper SL Pro includes Avid Elixir brakes. However, there seems to be a bit of dubiety about this if the Avid Elixir 4s are customised by Specialized themselves to include Elixir 5 levers but Juicy 3 calipers and pads. Are we being misled and ripped off here ? Should the matter be reported to Trading Standards ?

bennett_346

TorskeTunger wrote:

I'm looking to buy a new hardtail MTB. I've had my Specialized Rockhopper for so long now that it's practically a museum piece, but it's served me well over the years. I'm an enthusiastic amateur, and it's all about FUN rather than competing ( in other words, I have no real skills and precious little technique ). I've been looking at the Boardman Mountain Bike Pro and the 2010 Specialized Rockhopper SL Pro. Which one is the better bike ? I get the impression that some of the components on the Boardman are higher spec, plus the bike seems to be a bit cheaper. Is it better value for money ? I'm not particularly keen on buying anything from Halfords, but maybe I could get it built up and serviced by EBC. In comparing the specs, I note that all the literature states that the Rockhopper SL Pro includes Avid Elixir brakes. However, there seems to be a bit of dubiety about this if the Avid Elixir 4s are customised by Specialized themselves to include Elixir 5 levers but Juicy 3 calipers and pads. Are we being misled and ripped off here ? Should the matter be reported to Trading Standards ?

I wish i knew about the calipers being juicy before i bought it, im not sure what difference it makes but you're right, its nice to be in the know. As for trading standards, its sold as Avid Elixir 4, which is exactly what it is, they'll probably tell you you should of researched them before buying, you get what they told you etc etc. Still misleading though.

nicklouse

TorskeTunger wrote:

However, there seems to be a bit of dubiety about this if the Avid Elixir 4s are customised by Specialized themselves to include Elixir 5 levers but Juicy 3 calipers and pads. Are we being misled and ripped off here ? Should the matter be reported to Trading Standards ?

nothing misleading there at all.

the Elixir 4 is just that. a mix. it is not available as an aftermarket brake.

the Elixer 4 spec is an Elixir 5 lever assy and a juciy caliper. you get just what it says it is.

snotty badger

I have the 08 Pitch that came with Juicy 3SLs, the brakes are fine, so you've nothing to worry about with a Juicy 3 caliper...

TorskeTunger

Thanks for the advice, guys. I've ordered a 2010 Rockhopper SL Pro because it's on sale now. The 2011 version comes out next month but the price is going up to £1250, and that's just a wee bit too much for me. Hopefully, the Elixir 4 brake combination will do the job !

ricardo_smooth

they have never let me down on my fsr xc pro

james devlin

hi guys, i have been using elixir 4's for about 18 months now on my spesh xc expert and they have performed very well. they are indeed the elixir 5 lever and the juicy 3 caliper............

cooldad

Have you been in a coma for the last two years?

bennett_346

james devlin wrote:

hi guys, i have been using elixir 4's for about 18 months now on my spesh xc expert and they have performed very well. they are indeed the elixir 5 lever and the juicy 3 caliper............

Thanks. But i bought that bike nearly 3 years ago and it was sold 14 months ago