Talk to me about cornish pasties

Anonymous
Anonymous Posts: 79,665
edited August 2010 in The Crudcatcher
im going to cornwall on friday for a few days (dont worry, i'll be back on the following thursday)

what do i need to know about cornish pasties to make sure i buy the right stuff?
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  • Raymondavalon
    Raymondavalon Posts: 5,346
    They're overrated
    Steak & kidney be the schnizzle
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    A butchers in Huddersfield won the best Pastie comp a few years ago.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • blister pus
    blister pus Posts: 5,610
    real ones don't have carrot in and they look and taste fuck all like greggs
  • fyldesmurf
    fyldesmurf Posts: 412
    you should get the one's that are half sweet half savoury separated by some pastry, just make sure you know which end is which before you start.

    Lamb and mint one's are well nice too
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Is it true that proper Cornish pasties have meat at one end, and a "pudding" filling at the other, or is that a myth?
  • pte1643
    pte1643 Posts: 518
    it's true.

    The key is knowing which end to start. :?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    nicklouse wrote:
    A butchers in Huddersfield won the best Pastie comp a few years ago.

    to that end i will be suggesting that adventurous training is carried out in huddersfield next year.

    will i be expected to eat it with red cabbage that far north?
  • IcarusGreen
    IcarusGreen Posts: 1,486
    edited August 2010
    http://www.cornishlight.co.uk/cornish-pasty.htm

    Cornish Pasty Ingredients -Recipe

    For the Pastry ( This is for Shortcrust)

    One and a half Cups Plain Flour
    Lard or vegetable fat
    Pinch of salt
    Water

    For the pasty filling
    Chuck steak or skirt
    Two Large potatoes
    Half a large swede (turnip as second best)
    One large onion
    Salt and pepper to taste
    Water

    There is as much folklore around the Cornish Pasty as there are recipe variations. One such tale said it was bad luck for fishermen to take a pasty on board a boat, but then again I know a modern day skipper that 'loves his pasties'. A very famous photograph from the late Nineteenth Century shows a group of tin miners at 'Croust Time' , that is meal time to you and I, tucking into very large pasties. Incidentally the mining boom was largely over by the 1860's Such pasties would have meat at one end and a fruit filling at the other.
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  • Splottboy
    Splottboy Posts: 3,693
    Pub by Restonguest or some such name.
    Right by a lovely river, nice pub in Good Pub Guide.

    Best pasties I ever had, and I know the owners of Thomas Merthyr Pies/Pastys.

    Second time I ate there, not so good, but still very nice.
    Great setting, but a bit "snobby" at time with Yatchy types.
  • fyldesmurf
    fyldesmurf Posts: 412
    oh i thought it was just a modern gimmick but you could be right, not at all an expert that was just based on my own observations
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    fyldesmurf wrote:
    you should get the one's that are half sweet half savoury separated by some pastry, just make sure you know which end is which before you start.

    Lamb and mint one's are well nice too

    do want.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    pte1643 wrote:
    it's true.

    The key is knowing which end to start. :?
    Start right in the middle and work your way out :lol:
  • pte1643
    pte1643 Posts: 518
    A very famous photograph from the late Nineteenth Century shows a group of tin miners at 'Croust Time' , that is meal time to you and I, tucking into very large pasties. Incidentally the mining boom was largely over by the 1860's Such pasties would have meat at one end and a fruit filling at the other.

    I've heard somewhere (BBC Coast, or somesuch similar program) that the pasty was the staple diet of the Cornish Tin Miners. That the curled "Crust" was the "Handle" (if you like), and was thrown away after, so as not to get dirty hands on your dinner.
  • redvee
    redvee Posts: 11,922
    One word on the matter............Ginsters :lol:
    I've added a signature to prove it is still possible.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    redvee wrote:
    One word on the matter............Ginsters :lol:

    thats heresy surely??
  • *AL*
    *AL* Posts: 1,114
    Is it true that proper Cornish pasties have meat at one end, and a "pudding" filling at the other, or is that a myth?

    This is true.

    Newquay area isn't it Big D ?

    W C Rowe. Various shops throughout Cornwall, a good outlet is in Kingsley Village in Fraddon next to the McDonalds. This is where we get our pasties at work.
    The also do a splendid Pork and Stuffing roll.

    Malcolm Barnecutts Bakery, ask for a Jumbo Steak (careful because his brother Keith Barnecutt also has several shops around mid Cornwall, and they're not very good)

    That is about as close to a proper Cornish Pasty that you'll buy over the counter.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    So, can you get cake in one end of a pasty. Because that sounds like a joint invention of mine and sheepsteeth, the CAKE PIE!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    newquay is correct al, i can not bloomin wait.
  • IcarusGreen
    IcarusGreen Posts: 1,486
    pte1643 wrote:
    A very famous photograph from the late Nineteenth Century shows a group of tin miners at 'Croust Time' , that is meal time to you and I, tucking into very large pasties. Incidentally the mining boom was largely over by the 1860's Such pasties would have meat at one end and a fruit filling at the other.

    I've heard somewhere (BBC Coast, or somesuch similar program) that the pasty was the staple diet of the Cornish Tin Miners. That the curled "Crust" was the "Handle" (if you like), and was thrown away after, so as not to get dirty hands on your dinner.

    True. Shame, as the crust is the best bit
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    So, can you get cake in one end of a pasty. Because that sounds like a joint invention of mine and sheepsteeth, the CAKE PIE!

    haaaang on a minute, you are right, the cornish have been back in time and stolen our unique invention!!!
  • redvee
    redvee Posts: 11,922
    I had a sweet n savoury pasty when in Dartmouth, beef in one end with apple and custard in the other. Making me want one now :(
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  • Splottboy
    Splottboy Posts: 3,693
    It's that bastard Dr Who again.

    Bloody idea-pinching-money-losing Time Lord.

    Cornish pasty CAKE PIE pinching git!
  • *AL*
    *AL* Posts: 1,114
    So, can you get cake in one end of a pasty. Because that sounds like a joint invention of mine and sheepsteeth, the CAKE PIE!

    Cake ?

    No.

    My mum, God rest her, would make a proper pasty for me to take to work when I were a lad, favourite was rhubarb and custard in the sweet end.

    There was no set recipe for the sweet end, bearing in mind that the miners were poor people and they used what ever was to hand, so anything baised on fruit was a winner.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    i would love it if i could find a fruit and savoury pasty, just for the history of course :wink:
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Cake pasty sounds like a winner though.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Cake pasty sounds like a winner though.

    im off to bed, but i will be thinking bout cake pasties and the perfect recipe for one. i will make one and bring it up north with me.
  • Tolk
    Tolk Posts: 775
    There's an awesome pastie shop in newquay (just off the high street, on the ocean side) I always get an apple, custard and cinnamon pastie when we go there, nom nom nom.

    They also sell one that can feed about 10 people, although you have to order it in advance.
  • *AL*
    *AL* Posts: 1,114
    Tolk wrote:
    There's an awesome pastie shop in newquay (just off the high street, on the ocean side) I always get an apple, custard and cinnamon pastie when we go there, nom nom nom.

    They also sell one that can feed about 10 people, although you have to order it in advance.

    That's Niles Bakery, IMEO they're not very good.

    Also if you're looking for an authentic Cornish Pasty avoid anywhere that offers a 'Pastie'

    It goes without saying if they can't even spell it correctly, it'll taste gash.
  • There are two shops in York that serve all sorts of pasty like delights. The Cornish Pasty Company - be sure to try them. AMAZING
    MmmBop

    Go big or go home.
  • jay12
    jay12 Posts: 6,126
    newquay is correct al, i can not bloomin wait.
    my brothere went there recently. said it was really good. he also was 50meters from a dead body of a person who fell off a cliff and washed up on the beach