So its not car drivers who are ignorant...other cyclists too
mrpulloo
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:x So your commuting to work and going through all the traumas of car drivers which you become used to....... So why is it when your cycleing along path width cycle tracks, that some oncoming more "proffesional" looking cyclists refuse to stick to one side and continue to cycle along the middle? Not giving any ground and scowling when you refuse to ride into the nettles!!
I have been cycling for more years thasn i care to imagine,im not some old fart but i am a man of good manners!
It happens roughly three times every day and when i refused to go into the nettles and stuck to the left one guy started getting quite arsey!!(until he realised im 6'4") where he apologised for his rude behaviour.
I have been cycling for more years thasn i care to imagine,im not some old fart but i am a man of good manners!
It happens roughly three times every day and when i refused to go into the nettles and stuck to the left one guy started getting quite arsey!!(until he realised im 6'4") where he apologised for his rude behaviour.
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Welcome to the forum, mrpulloo.
Dunno what you mean by professional; had a cycling jersey on? I too encounter cyclists coming the other way who don't give any ground. It's not limited to cyclists though; I encounter the same behaviour from pedestrians (both on my bike and when I'm walking). Some people just expect you to get out of their way.0 -
I don't make much use of cycle-paths, but when I have used them I notice that most of the traffic is pedestrians and most cyclists adopt the pedestrian convention of keeping to the right. This means if you keep to the left then they'll be heading right at you and expecting you to move aside.This post contains traces of nuts.0
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dondare wrote:I don't make much use of cycle-paths, but when I have used them I notice that most of the traffic is pedestrians and most cyclists adopt the pedestrian convention of keeping to the right.
There's a pedestrian convention of keeping to the right? Man, they never taught me that at school. =/0 -
Agent57 wrote:dondare wrote:I don't make much use of cycle-paths, but when I have used them I notice that most of the traffic is pedestrians and most cyclists adopt the pedestrian convention of keeping to the right.
There's a pedestrian convention of keeping to the right? Man, they never taught me that at school. =/
I've never heard of that either, considering on 2 way cycle lanes you keep to the left as with road traffic.
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dondare wrote:There's a pedestrian convention of keeping to the right? Man, they never taught me that at school. =/
Generally, if pedestrians are to walk in the road way with motor traffic (i.e. there is no pavement) it is sensible not to have one's back to the oncoming traffic. Though the Highway Code appears to contradict itself on this point. See rules 1 and 5. Usually if walking in a road I'll keep to the right, though on a shared-use path I'll keep to the left.The above is a post in a forum on the Intertubes, and should be taken with the appropriate amount of seriousness.0 -
Norky wrote:dondare wrote:There's a pedestrian convention of keeping to the right? Man, they never taught me that at school. =/
Generally, if pedestrians are to walk in the road way with motor traffic (i.e. there is no pavement) it is sensible not to have one's back to the oncoming traffic. Though the Highway Code appears to contradict itself on this point. See rules 1 and 6. Usually if walking in a road I'll keep to the right, though on a shared-use path I'll keep to the left.
On the "road" you should face traffic, obviously you can see whats about to hit you and you can give them a cheery wave as you fly through the air.
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Cyclists should pay road tax like everyone else and sit a test and be registered.Fixed gear for wet weather / hairy roadie for posing in the sun.
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Norky wrote:Generally, if pedestrians are to walk in the road way with motor traffic (i.e. there is no pavement) it is sensible not to have one's back to the oncoming traffic.
Sure, on a road with no pavements it's sensible to be able to see what's coming. But I still wouldn't call it a convention; mainly because I don't think a majority of pedestrians do follow that advice when walking on such roads, and it certainly doesn't seem to apply within the confines of pavements or shared use cycle-paths.0 -
Agent57 wrote:Sure, on a road with no pavements it's sensible to be able to see what's coming. But I still wouldn't call it a convention; mainly because I don't think a majority of pedestrians do follow that advice when walking on such roads, and it certainly doesn't seem to apply within the confines of pavements or shared use cycle-paths.
Oh indeed, I agree, just pointing out why some pedestrians might do it even in situations where it's not sensible.The above is a post in a forum on the Intertubes, and should be taken with the appropriate amount of seriousness.0 -
People are ignorant.
Doesn't matter if they are in their cars or on their bikes.
Sad but becoming more common.None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.0 -
I have to say, if people want to ride at speed, I really think they should do it on roads.
Cycle paths/shared paths aren't the place for anything above about 15mph in my book, and even that is probably pushing your luck. There are just too many peds in the mix, as well as novice cyclists, children, dogs etc.0 -
Also, no one with even an ounce of self respect should ever use a road bike on a cycle path. Leave them for the hybrids and mountain bikes.0
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_Brun_ wrote:Also, no one with even an ounce of self respect should ever use a road bike on a cycle path. Leave them for the hybrids and mountain bikes.
Depends on the cycle path a bit, there are often a variety of sneaky cut through routes to be had if you know where you're going.
Those shared use paths are proper annoying, though.0 -
mrpulloo wrote::x So your commuting to work and going through all the traumas of car drivers which you become used to....... So why is it when your cycleing along path width cycle tracks, that some oncoming more "proffesional" looking cyclists refuse to stick to one side and continue to cycle along the middle? Not giving any ground and scowling when you refuse to ride into the nettles!!
I have been cycling for more years thasn i care to imagine,im not some old fart but i am a man of good manners!
It happens roughly three times every day and when i refused to go into the nettles and stuck to the left one guy started getting quite arsey!!(until he realised im 6'4") where he apologised for his rude behaviour.
Try Clapham Common in SW London, especially if you're riding into London during the evening rush hour. For some reason, people seem to assume they can behave on a bike in a way they would never dream of in a car.
BTW I'm "professional" looking, I think.___________________________________________
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+1lost_in_thought wrote:I have to say, if people want to ride at speed, I really think they should do it on roads.Cycle paths/shared paths aren't the place for anything above about 15mph in my book, and even that is probably pushing your luck.
Department for Transport recommends getting on the road above 18mph (30kph)There are just too many peds in the mix, as well as novice cyclists, children, dogs etc.
I dare say it's a bit busier 'round your way. There's a 2 mile stretch of shared-use path near me that I often see utterly empty of foot/bike/any traffic. I usually ride on the dual carriageway parallel to it anyway.
I rarely use cycle paths but for pootly rides with the missus and the occasional cut through as Adiy said.The above is a post in a forum on the Intertubes, and should be taken with the appropriate amount of seriousness.0 -
The trouble with shared use cycle paths is you annoy the pedestrians who bimber about three-a-breast and think you should be on the road.
If you then go on the road you annoy the motorists who think your being a arrogant twit for not using the cycle path specially built for you to keep you out of there way.
One in particular example is the A4 going out of town past Heathrow.0 -
The trouble with shared use cycle paths is you annoy the pedestrians who bimber about three-a-breast and think you should be on the road.
If you then go on the road you annoy the motorists who think your being a arrogant twit for not using the cycle path specially built for you to keep you out of there way
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mrpulloo wrote::x So your commuting to work and going through all the traumas of car drivers which you become used to....... So why is it when your cycleing along path width cycle tracks, that some oncoming more "proffesional" looking cyclists refuse to stick to one side and continue to cycle along the middle? Not giving any ground and scowling when you refuse to ride into the nettles!!
I have been cycling for more years thasn i care to imagine,im not some old fart but i am a man of good manners!
It happens roughly three times every day and when i refused to go into the nettles and stuck to the left one guy started getting quite arsey!!(until he realised im 6'4") where he apologised for his rude behaviour.
Had a similar problem yesterday until he realised I wasn't moving and he went through the nettles 8)0 -
Is it OK to point your finger or shake your head in a condescending manor at rude cyclists?
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May I suggest one of these?mrpulloo wrote::x So your commuting to work and going through all the traumas of car drivers which you become used to....... So why is it when your cycleing along path width cycle tracks, that some oncoming more "proffesional" looking cyclists refuse to stick to one side and continue to cycle along the middle? Not giving any ground and scowling when you refuse to ride into the nettles!!
I have been cycling for more years thasn i care to imagine,im not some old fart but i am a man of good manners!
It happens roughly three times every day and when i refused to go into the nettles and stuck to the left one guy started getting quite arsey!!(until he realised im 6'4") where he apologised for his rude behaviour.
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Norky wrote:dondare wrote:There's a pedestrian convention of keeping to the right? Man, they never taught me that at school. =/
Generally, if pedestrians are to walk in the road way with motor traffic (i.e. there is no pavement) it is sensible not to have one's back to the oncoming traffic. Though the Highway Code appears to contradict itself on this point. See rules 1 and 5. Usually if walking in a road I'll keep to the right, though on a shared-use path I'll keep to the left.
Those don't actually contradict each other:
Rule #1 is for a single pedestrian, and does say that it may be safer to cross to the outside of a bend.
Rule#5 is for organised groups of pedestrians, which are in effect one single "unit" and akin to a very slow moving item of traffic.0
