stolen bike on ebay - please help

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  • pastey_boy
    pastey_boy Posts: 2,083
    bid on it. offer to pay cash on collection, go collect, take the bike and chin the seller. job done.
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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Orleandrew wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    If the auction is left to run its course, will the new owner not be guilty of handling stolen goods?

    Only if they know, or should reasonably be expected to know, it's stolen. I.e. they can't legally keep it once it's identified as stolen.

    Cheers. I wasn't sure on the intricacies of the law in this respect.
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  • pastey_boy
    pastey_boy Posts: 2,083
    Ben6899 wrote:
    Orleandrew wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    If the auction is left to run its course, will the new owner not be guilty of handling stolen goods?

    Only if they know, or should reasonably be expected to know, it's stolen. I.e. they can't legally keep it once it's identified as stolen.

    Cheers. I wasn't sure on the intricacies of the law in this respect.
    many years ago i had a bike stolen. days later i saw it locked to a lamp post. i called the police and they came and got the bike and the junkie who now owned it. i proved beyond all shadow of a doubt it was mine, the junkie said he bought it from a guy in a pub many miles away . the junkie got my bike back i got nothing, the law is ridiculous
    Viner Salviati
    Shark Aero Pro
    Px Ti Custom
    Cougar 531
    Sab single speed
    Argon 18 E-112 TT
    One-one Ti 456 Evo
    Ridley Cheetah TT
    Orange Clockwork 2007 ltd ed
    Yeti ASR 5
    Cove Hummer XC Ti
  • Sirius631
    Sirius631 Posts: 991
    pastey_boy wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    Orleandrew wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:
    If the auction is left to run its course, will the new owner not be guilty of handling stolen goods?

    Only if they know, or should reasonably be expected to know, it's stolen. I.e. they can't legally keep it once it's identified as stolen.

    Cheers. I wasn't sure on the intricacies of the law in this respect.
    many years ago i had a bike stolen. days later i saw it locked to a lamp post. i called the police and they came and got the bike and the junkie who now owned it. i proved beyond all shadow of a doubt it was mine, the junkie said he bought it from a guy in a pub many miles away . the junkie got my bike back i got nothing, the law is ridiculous

    That is just plain wrong. Just because they bought your bike doesn't override the fact that you own it.
    To err is human, but to make a real balls up takes a super computer.
  • pastey_boy
    pastey_boy Posts: 2,083
    its the old "bought in good faith" defense
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  • Sirius631
    Sirius631 Posts: 991
    pastey_boy wrote:
    its the old "bought in good faith" defense

    That only defends them against prosecution for theft, receiving or handling. You bought it in good faith for a dam sight more money than they would have. You should have insisted that the bike be confiscated and then taken it up with a higher officer to retreive it.
    To err is human, but to make a real balls up takes a super computer.
  • Homer J
    Homer J Posts: 920
    edited July 2010
    Take action against ebay for knowinly selling stolen property. Afterall you have informed them it's stolen, and can prove it? i'm no lawyer i'm sure someone here is though?
  • pastey_boy
    pastey_boy Posts: 2,083
    Sirius631 wrote:
    pastey_boy wrote:
    its the old "bought in good faith" defense

    That only defends them against prosecution for theft, receiving or handling. You bought it in good faith for a dam sight more money than they would have. You should have insisted that the bike be confiscated and then taken it up with a higher officer to retreive it.
    believe me i tried but to no avail . the officer handling the case was as frustrated as me
    Viner Salviati
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    Px Ti Custom
    Cougar 531
    Sab single speed
    Argon 18 E-112 TT
    One-one Ti 456 Evo
    Ridley Cheetah TT
    Orange Clockwork 2007 ltd ed
    Yeti ASR 5
    Cove Hummer XC Ti
  • Dan_xz
    Dan_xz Posts: 130
    Go to trading standards about ebay, try calling watchdog too - you never know. If ebay allow this auction to run after having being informed that there is an official police stolen report on this bike then they surely have some liability in this.
  • tebbit
    tebbit Posts: 604
    If it was insured contact the insurance company, who may be helpful in helping you get your goods back as it may be cheaper for them to get your property back than to pay out. Also they have a vested interest in stopping people stealing and flogging on ebay.
  • deadpool2e
    deadpool2e Posts: 625
    so what happened in the end??
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Write to your local paper and/or MP.
  • i thought that buying via auction gave the buyer legitimate ownership of the goods, namely that they cannot be prosecuted for receiving stolen goods and the goods cannot be recovered / returned.....?
  • fast as fupp
    fast as fupp Posts: 2,277
    i thought that buying via auction gave the buyer legitimate ownership of the goods, namely that they cannot be prosecuted for receiving stolen goods and the goods cannot be recovered / returned.....?

    no and no

    stolen is stolen
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  • schweiz
    schweiz Posts: 1,644
    i thought that buying via auction gave the buyer legitimate ownership of the goods, namely that they cannot be prosecuted for receiving stolen goods and the goods cannot be recovered / returned.....?

    no and no

    stolen is stolen

    and you may get a shock when you find out how much you have to pay if you wish to keep the stolen goods...

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    How about winning the bid, cash on pick up, turn up with a baseball bat (aluminium ones are best, easy to clean, no dna/evidence left) and break his arms. Take your bike, everyones a winner. :wink:

    Its what I would do. :)