So I've got a job interview.

freehub

Bikerbaboon wrote:

freehub wrote:

The trousers looked ok in the end, dunno why they appeared weird at first.

I've got no actual proper work experience, this is why I think it'd be better doing a year in a job rather than going to uni, into a course, that I perhaps won't like.

or i know its crazy you can go to uni and work a part time job... you have less debts and your CV will look fuller for the experiance.

The UK is chock full of Grads with 2.1 and 2.2 you have to find a way of haveing the 2.1 with more. I was 2.2 with part time job for the 3 years and and engineer for the radio station this on top of outdoor sports and other healthy activities.... yes and loads of drinking.
uni corses unless you are doing a core sciance or engineering degree are relativly time easy. Hell my unit class time was about 8 hours a week and that got me a BEng... Physics was sat at 24+ hours and was the longest course time.

At uni you learn alot more than whats just on the course. Think long and hard before you give up a place and if you do give it up have a good plan of what you are going to do.

I want a part time job, if I find the way of uni ok I will look for one.

Flasheart

I'm pushing 45 and I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up :?

Ben6899

Flasheart wrote:

I'm pushing 45 and I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up :?

That's the best way!

I had a 6 monthly appraisal/career review the other day at work and was asked where I would like to be in 5 years time. I kept it quiet that I'd be quite happy pulling pints and cracking open bottles for a living... as long as it was in Southern California!

Not much chance of that happening any time soon.

tomb8555

I did a 'year in industry' course. As said, universities typically charge 50% fees for the year for 'administration' costs. Also, this keeps you on their books as a student, which means foreign students can do a year in industry without requiring a work visa, you don't need to pay council tax, and you don't need to start repaying student loan even though you are earning and paying income tax etc.

redddraggon wrote:

With a placement, you won't need to get student finance because you should be doing a proper job with a proper wage, otherwise you are getting exploited.

The point of doing a placement year is that you effectively do an extended internship in the field where you want to work. To a) gain specific experience and b) it's a good way to determine if that's actually what you want to do for the next x years of your life.

As such, of course you aren't paid a 'proper' wage, as that would require you to already have the necessary experience and qualifications for the job. I have no idea what the going rates are for business (what Will's doing) but for Science it'll be ~£17k. Some are a bit more, some are much less. But still, you're 21 so you have very little fixed outgoings so unless you end up paying stupidly high rent you'll have plenty of cash.

redddraggon

tomb8555 wrote:

redddraggon wrote:

With a placement, you won't need to get student finance because you should be doing a proper job with a proper wage, otherwise you are getting exploited.

The point of doing a placement year is that you effectively do an extended internship in the field where you want to work. To a) gain specific experience and b) it's a good way to determine if that's actually what you want to do for the next x years of your life.

As such, of course you aren't paid a 'proper' wage, as that would require you to already have the necessary experience and qualifications for the job. I have no idea what the going rates are for business (what Will's doing) but for Science it'll be ~£17k. Some are a bit more, some are much less. But still, you're 21 so you have very little fixed outgoings so unless you end up paying stupidly high rent you'll have plenty of cash.

I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make? I'd say what I and my friends got paid during their placement was a proper wage.

£14-17K is a proper wage IMO, plenty of people get that sort of money for permanent jobs they've had for years, so as a student it's pretty good.

tomb8555

redddraggon wrote:

I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make? I'd say what I and my friends got paid during their placement was a proper wage.

£14-17K is a proper wage IMO, plenty of people get that sort of money for permanent jobs they've had for years, so as a student it's pretty good.

I was just trying to give some more info as I think the year in industry is an incredibly beneficial thing to do.

By saying it's not a 'proper' wage I guess I was just pointing out that if you then went back to the same company after your degree to do much the same job then you'd probably get paid a fair bit more. But yeah it's pretty good. I didn't need loans that year and saved a fair bit for my final year.