Armstrongs big crash yesterday.
Just watched a video of the crash, and something occurred to me.
Why didn't Armstrong take a team-mates bike rather than waiting for a replacement from the car? He would have saved a lot of time and possibly been able to tag on the back of the peloton rather than having to be paced back from 1:30 behind by three of the team?
Are the bikes really that differently set up or sized?
Why didn't Armstrong take a team-mates bike rather than waiting for a replacement from the car? He would have saved a lot of time and possibly been able to tag on the back of the peloton rather than having to be paced back from 1:30 behind by three of the team?
Are the bikes really that differently set up or sized?
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apidya wrote:Just watched a video of the crash, and something occurred to me.
Why didn't Armstrong take a team-mates bike rather than waiting for a replacement from the car? He would have saved a lot of time and possibly been able to tag on the back of the peloton rather than having to be paced back from 1:30 behind by three of the team?
Are the bikes really that differently set up or sized?
Because the reality is that Lance was already cooked and most likely was going to suffer on the climbs anyway... The whole "saddle sore" report was to lay the foundations for a face saving excuse... but then the crash (which wasnt all that big of a crash) happened**************************************************
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It wasn't all that big of a crash - except Andy Schleck said Armstrong hit the ground "really hard".Le Blaireau (1)0
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dennisn wrote:DaveyL wrote:It wasn't all that big of a crash - except Andy Schleck said Armstrong hit the ground "really hard".
Well, if Andy said LA hit the ground "really hard" I'm tempted to believe him.
Dunno really. Pro cyclists seem even more subject to, well, subjectivity, on the subject of Lance than others.___________________
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calvjones wrote:dennisn wrote:DaveyL wrote:It wasn't all that big of a crash - except Andy Schleck said Armstrong hit the ground "really hard".
Well, if Andy said LA hit the ground "really hard" I'm tempted to believe him.
Dunno really. Pro cyclists seem even more subject to, well, subjectivity, on the subject of Lance than others.
I'm not following. Are you saying that because it was LA that Andy said something that
he didn't mean. If ya get my meaning? :? :? :?0 -
emadden wrote:apidya wrote:Just watched a video of the crash, and something occurred to me.
Why didn't Armstrong take a team-mates bike rather than waiting for a replacement from the car? He would have saved a lot of time and possibly been able to tag on the back of the peloton rather than having to be paced back from 1:30 behind by three of the team?
Are the bikes really that differently set up or sized?
Because the reality is that Lance was already cooked and most likely was going to suffer on the climbs anyway... The whole "saddle sore" report was to lay the foundations for a face saving excuse... but then the crash (which wasnt all that big of a crash) happened
To clarify, when I said 'big crash', I meant as in the one that seemed to cost him the most in terms of position/time.
However I take your point, It was a useful event to happen if you're looking for an excuse.0 -
dennisn wrote:calvjones wrote:dennisn wrote:DaveyL wrote:It wasn't all that big of a crash - except Andy Schleck said Armstrong hit the ground "really hard".
Well, if Andy said LA hit the ground "really hard" I'm tempted to believe him.
Dunno really. Pro cyclists seem even more subject to, well, subjectivity, on the subject of Lance than others.
I'm not following. Are you saying that because it was LA that Andy said something that
he didn't mean. If ya get my meaning? :? :? :?
Yes, exactly that.___________________
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He does slide on his back for a fair distance at a significant speed.
That third 'crash' however ... you can see it happen some way up the road and at least 4 other cyclists managed to steer right to avoid and carry on. Maybe he'd physically given up and wasn't looking or mentally thought it would be a good excuse to stop chasing and sit up...0 -
calvjones wrote:dennisn wrote:calvjones wrote:dennisn wrote:DaveyL wrote:It wasn't all that big of a crash - except Andy Schleck said Armstrong hit the ground "really hard".
Well, if Andy said LA hit the ground "really hard" I'm tempted to believe him.
Dunno really. Pro cyclists seem even more subject to, well, subjectivity, on the subject of Lance than others.
I'm not following. Are you saying that because it was LA that Andy said something that
he didn't mean. If ya get my meaning? :? :? :?
Yes, exactly that.
I can see that. Although I can remember going down in a "standing still - failure to unclip" accident and d*mned if I didn't hit the ground / pavement really hard. Broke / cracked a couple of ribs. As a matter of fact most every time I've went down it always seemed "really hard". Then again I'm somewhat of a sissy.0 -
As I do not personally know you Dennis I cannot believe you are a sissy, nor can I discount that you might be. I do not know Andy Schleck and therefore cannot know whether he is likely to be telling the truth or not. I did however see the 'big' crash by the power of television and thought 'that must have hurt'. I do know a couple of former pro-cyclists and both are prone to subjectivity on many subjects (that is obviously my subjective opinion).
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Snorebens wrote:He does slide on his back for a fair distance at a significant speed.
That third 'crash' however ... you can see it happen some way up the road and at least 4 other cyclists managed to steer right to avoid and carry on. Maybe he'd physically given up and wasn't looking or mentally thought it would be a good excuse to stop chasing and sit up...
Iirc he'd given up the chase before the 3rd crash.0 -
falling off at 30mph is going to sting abit, evenif he just slid along the road...
Without that puncture I bet he would of finished with the group.0 -
I think by the end he'd just given up. The look of disbelieve after the last crash said it all. Not had much luck on his side this year.
Any crash where you come off at 40mph and slide on your back is gonna hurt, especially if you then have to be paced back into the peleton before a bloody big hill. Good chance he also banged the elbow he's been wearing a big plaster over for a few days.
Shame, it'd have been nice to see him a bit more in the thick of things on his last tour. I thought in advance that yesterday was the day he was going to have to claw back a little time on.http://www.strathspey.co.uk - Quality Binoculars at a Sensible Price.
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