How can i claim asylum?
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Asylum seekers should be placed into holding camps until their case is heard; after which they should either be re-patriated back to their homeland or be allowed to integrate into our society and earn a proper living.
What gets me though, is in these economic hard times how are they going to get work and to my thinking it's morally wrong they should be able to claim any kind of benefit as they've not paid a penny in :!:Tail end Charlie
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BREAKING NEWS:
The poor little asylum seekers have lost their home
Sooner the better i say. waste of space 419 scammers get fked.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/144140/BENEFITS-FAMILY-EVICTED/0 -
Frank the tank wrote:Asylum seekers should be placed into holding camps until their case is heard; after which they should either be re-patriated back to their homeland or be allowed to integrate into our society and earn a proper living.
What gets me though, is in these economic hard times how are they going to get work and to my thinking it's morally wrong they should be able to claim any kind of benefit as they've not paid a penny in :!:
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Frank the tank wrote:What gets me though, is in these economic hard times how are they going to get work and to my thinking it's morally wrong they should be able to claim any kind of benefit as they've not paid a penny in :!:
They aren't allowed to work, which is utterly ridiculous. Why have asylum seekers sitting here being unable to work and at the same time shipping in immigrant labour from Eastern Europe?
NB This is pre-recession I'm talking about.0 -
The radio had an item the other day about illegal immigrants (I know it's not the same as an asylum seeker before anyone starts
) who have actually obtained false ID to allow them to pay tax. I'd rather that than some native of the country who has no intention of working! 0 -
rapid_uphill wrote:BREAKING NEWS:
The poor little asylum seekers have lost their home
Sooner the better i say. waste of space 419 scammers get fked.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/144140/BENEFITS-FAMILY-EVICTED/
They're not asylum seekers :?0 -
According to the sun article which i posted on the first page they are.rapid_uphill wrote:bails87 wrote:rapid_uphill wrote:BREAKING NEWS:
The poor little asylum seekers have lost their home
Sooner the better i say. waste of space 419 scammers get fked.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/144140/BENEFITS-FAMILY-EVICTED/
They're not asylum seekers :?0 -
They took this picture at 2.30pm aswell, he just woke up because hes been sleeping all day wtf!
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the s*n eh? the rag that prints 'THE TRUTH' :shock:'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0
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johnfinch wrote:Frank the tank wrote:What gets me though, is in these economic hard times how are they going to get work and to my thinking it's morally wrong they should be able to claim any kind of benefit as they've not paid a penny in :!:
They aren't allowed to work, which is utterly ridiculous. Why have asylum seekers sitting here being unable to work and at the same time shipping in immigrant labour from Eastern Europe?
NB This is pre-recession I'm talking about.
Once they've been granted asylum, surely they're allowed to work, it's only while they're being "processed they're not able to work, That's why I'd put them in holding camps and hopefully the whole process could be sped up.Tail end Charlie
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Frank the tank wrote:johnfinch wrote:Frank the tank wrote:What gets me though, is in these economic hard times how are they going to get work and to my thinking it's morally wrong they should be able to claim any kind of benefit as they've not paid a penny in :!:
They aren't allowed to work, which is utterly ridiculous. Why have asylum seekers sitting here being unable to work and at the same time shipping in immigrant labour from Eastern Europe?
NB This is pre-recession I'm talking about.
Once they've been granted asylum, surely they're allowed to work, it's only while they're being "processed they're not able to work, That's why I'd put them in holding camps and hopefully the whole process could be sped up.
Yes, once they've been granted asylum they can work of course. It's just the 2-3 year beforehand.0 -
I don`t think asylum seekers are the problem here, it`s the irresponsible Labour government that spent our money so wastefully and incompetently and encouraged ridiculous situations like this one to happen.Our glorious coalition is now having to clear up their mess.Smarter than the average bear.0
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It's the 2-3year processing that needs sorting out, it's no good for all concerned.Tail end Charlie
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antfly wrote:I don`t think asylum seekers are the problem here, it`s the irresponsible Labour government that spent our money so wastefully and incompetently and encouraged ridiculous situations like this one to happen.Our glorious coalition is now having to clear up their mess.
the global banking crisis was all the labour parties fault?'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
rapid_uphill wrote:According to the sun article which i posted on the first page they are.rapid_uphill wrote:bails87 wrote:rapid_uphill wrote:BREAKING NEWS:
The poor little asylum seekers have lost their home
Sooner the better i say. waste of space 419 scammers get fked.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/144140/BENEFITS-FAMILY-EVICTED/
They're not asylum seekers :?
No, they're NOT asylum seekers.
The Sun said that eggs couldn't be sold by the 6 or dozen anymore. :roll:
The Sun also said that England flags had been banned. Across the page from a feature on the best displays of the England flag :roll: Without a hint of irony!
Seriously, treat the Sun/DM/Express as if they're wilfully misreporting things, because they usually are.0 -
'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0
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Hmmm who should i believe bails87 or the Sun? its a tough call.bails87 wrote:
No, they're NOT asylum seekers.
The Sun said that eggs couldn't be sold by the 6 or dozen anymore. :roll:
The Sun also said that England flags had been banned. Across the page from a feature on the best displays of the England flag :roll: Without a hint of irony!
Seriously, treat the Sun/DM/Express as if they're wilfully misreporting things, because they usually are.0 -
rapid_uphill wrote:Hmmm who should i believe bails87 or the Sun? its a tough call.bails87 wrote:
No, they're NOT asylum seekers.
The Sun said that eggs couldn't be sold by the 6 or dozen anymore. :roll:
The Sun also said that England flags had been banned. Across the page from a feature on the best displays of the England flag :roll: Without a hint of irony!
Seriously, treat the Sun/DM/Express as if they're wilfully misreporting things, because they usually are.
the t1ts arent just on page 3'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
bails87 wrote:....
No, they're NOT asylum seekers.
The Sun said that eggs couldn't be sold by the 6 or dozen anymore. :roll:
The Sun also said that England flags had been banned. Across the page from a feature on the best displays of the England flag :roll: Without a hint of irony!
Seriously, treat the Sun/DM/Express as if they're wilfully misreporting things, because they usually are.
Except of course the Sun never said any of those things, but don't let the truth get in the wayWant to know the Spen666 behind the posts?
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spen666 wrote:bails87 wrote:....
No, they're NOT asylum seekers.
The Sun said that eggs couldn't be sold by the 6 or dozen anymore. :roll:
The Sun also said that England flags had been banned. Across the page from a feature on the best displays of the England flag :roll: Without a hint of irony!
Seriously, treat the Sun/DM/Express as if they're wilfully misreporting things, because they usually are.
Except of course the Sun never said any of those things, but don't let the truth get in the way
The Sun definitely claimed that England flags had been banned. They also started/made up the whole "England shirts banned because they upset Muslims" story.
The egg thing might just have been the Mail and Express then. I'm sorry, I get the tabloid lies mixed up, probably because there's so many of them
I wonder if they reported on that made up story from Stoke about the woman (not) being thrown off the bus because her son was wearing an England shirt.
Either way, they're not asylum seekers. They were asylum seekers 11 years ago. They were granted asylum, so they're refugees.
And they won't be moving out until April, when new rules come into place. Rules that were going to be introduced anyway. So the press ocverage acheived nothing but make the old gov't look bad and the new one look good. But I'm sure there's absolutely no way that this was a story fed to the press by a govt spin doctor to make them look "tough on immigration" :roll:0 -
Oh, and spen666:THE England flag was STILL being banned across the country yesterday -
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... z0te9x0lCGENGLAND shirts could be BANNED at pubs screening live World Cup matches
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... -pubs.htmlKilljoys at cable giant NTL are among the latest party-poopers — ordering van drivers and subcontractors to tear down their flags in case they offend Muslims
SORRY for the RANDOM shouting but THAT'S what HAPPENS when you go to the SUN.0 -
It wasn't a global banking crisis, it was a Western European/United States banking crisis, living "nationally" beyond our means, blame the banks because they make nice easy scape goats, the banks had been following government policy for years in creating the idea that we had wealth, we didn't and still don't.0
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bails87 wrote:
And they won't be moving out until April, when new rules come into place. Rules that were going to be introduced anyway. So the press ocverage acheived nothing but make the old gov't look bad and the new one look good. But I'm sure there's absolutely no way that this was a story fed to the press by a govt spin doctor to make them look "tough on immigration" :roll:
I`m pretty sure that it`s the new coalition, with Iain Duncan-Smith in charge of cutting benefit waste, that brought in the new rules and not the old wasteful government who did absolutely nothing about it.
I quote,
"The London borough of Kensington and Chelsea have declined to comment on the specific circumstances of the Nur family's claim.
A spokesman added: "We have been saying for some years now that the way in which the maximum level of housing benefit is calculated is flawed and we welcome the Government's new changes which begin next year." "Smarter than the average bear.0 -
tebbit wrote:It wasn't a global banking crisis, it was a Western European/United States banking crisis, living "nationally" beyond our means, blame the banks because they make nice easy scape goats, the banks had been following government policy for years in creating the idea that we had wealth, we didn't and still don't.
I blame governments as much as banks, but that doesn't mean that they're just easy scapegoats. They lent 10s of billions of savers' money to people who couldn't pay it back. They might have been allowed to, but they weren't forced.0 -
Johnfinch.
I was thinking.
You suggest the problem is the 2-3 year turnaround to sort out asylum seekers.
Given the especially tricky nature of finding out the real background to asylum seekers, (are they actually in danger? are they criminal << something which if they are in danger from the state is tricky to identify), are they who they say they are, etc etc, how would this be solved?
Particularly if they are from unco-opereative gov'ts...0 -
johnfinch wrote:tebbit wrote:It wasn't a global banking crisis, it was a Western European/United States banking crisis, living "nationally" beyond our means, blame the banks because they make nice easy scape goats, the banks had been following government policy for years in creating the idea that we had wealth, we didn't and still don't.
I blame governments as much as banks, but that doesn't mean that they're just easy scapegoats. They lent 10s of billions of savers' money to people who couldn't pay it back. They might have been allowed to, but they weren't forced.
In the USA, where it all started, the banks were forced into it by Clinton so he is to blame more than anyone.Smarter than the average bear.0 -
Why not blame the people who actually defaulted on their loans in the first place?
The "sub-prime" mortgage takers.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Johnfinch.
I was thinking.
You suggest the problem is the 2-3 year turnaround to sort out asylum seekers.
Given the especially tricky nature of finding out the real background to asylum seekers, (are they actually in danger? are they criminal << something which if they are in danger from the state is tricky to identify), are they who they say they are, etc etc, how would this be solved?
Particularly if they are from unco-opereative gov'ts...
Frank the Tank suggested that the 2-3 year wait is the main problem, not me.
For me the main problem is that refugees exist in the first place. (That's a comment on the countries that create them BTW, not saying that people shouldn't be allowed to flee.)0
