Contador very likely to re-sign with Astana for 2 more years

donrhummy
donrhummy Posts: 2,329
edited July 2010 in Pro race
I think that's a big mistake. Not only because they're not a super strong team and still have a strong affinity for Vino but because they're known for not paying riders on time and for bad relations with riders (see Pereiro for an example). They're going to have trouble getting the best riders to join them because of that.

If someone has a history of not paying people (even after being threatened with being losing their UCI license -- it still took a few months and another threat of being out of the TDF), it doesn't matter how much they're offering you, you'll think there's no stability and a chance you'll never get that money.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contado ... na-in-2011

Comments

  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    Did you mean resign or re-sign?
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    will3 wrote:
    Did you mean resign or re-sign?

    Whoops, sorry. Fixed it. Sign for 2 more years.
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,123
    Alberto could probably sign for any team he chooses.
    Alberto has also had plenty of opportunities to leave Astana.
    Alberto knows Vino and the Sponsors very well by now.
    Alberto has chosen many of his own team-mates.


    Maybe Alberto is happy? :roll:
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    Alberto could probably sign for any team he chooses.
    Alberto has also had plenty of opportunities to leave Astana.
    Alberto knows Vino and the Sponsors very well by now.
    Alberto has chosen many of his own team-mates.


    Maybe Alberto is happy? :roll:

    Um...no. He has not yet had a SINGLE opportunity to leave. He was looking for one but the lawyers told him that to get out of his current contract (which he TRIED to do) would mean he'd likely have to miss this year's TDF as it would drag on for months.
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Astana's backers have loads of moolah
    Astana are prepared to spend loads of moolah
    Astana will roll over on a contract to keep him (e.g. the doping violation get out clause)
    Bertie can win TdF without a team, one leg tied behind his back
    Bertie would only be the 2nd biggest name on an Alonso team.
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  • If he's canny surely he'd get certain assurances before signing up for any more time.
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    Alberto could probably sign for any team he chooses.
    Alberto has also had plenty of opportunities to leave Astana.
    Alberto knows Vino and the Sponsors very well by now.
    Alberto has chosen many of his own team-mates.


    Maybe Alberto is happy? :roll:

    Astana's only connection to the 2007 Astana Team is the sponsor name and colours on the jersey..no staff or riders bar a couple from 2007 I think. The only issue is why such a developing country has that spare cash, if it is still state owned in the background...the consortium of financiers? That should be the ethical issue about it
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    donrhummy wrote:
    Alberto could probably sign for any team he chooses.
    Alberto has also had plenty of opportunities to leave Astana.
    Alberto knows Vino and the Sponsors very well by now.
    Alberto has chosen many of his own team-mates.


    Maybe Alberto is happy? :roll:

    Um...no. He has not yet had a SINGLE opportunity to leave. He was looking for one but the lawyers told him that to get out of his current contract (which he TRIED to do) would mean he'd likely have to miss this year's TDF as it would drag on for months.


    Not sure where you read that, but the UCI specifically said he COULD leave. Regardless, he chose to stay.

    (Plus this was going back almost a year - even if a legal battle was 'dragged out for months', it wouldn't be dragging on a for a year!)
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    Pokerface wrote:
    donrhummy wrote:
    Alberto could probably sign for any team he chooses.
    Alberto has also had plenty of opportunities to leave Astana.
    Alberto knows Vino and the Sponsors very well by now.
    Alberto has chosen many of his own team-mates.


    Maybe Alberto is happy? :roll:

    Um...no. He has not yet had a SINGLE opportunity to leave. He was looking for one but the lawyers told him that to get out of his current contract (which he TRIED to do) would mean he'd likely have to miss this year's TDF as it would drag on for months.


    Not sure where you read that, but the UCI specifically said he COULD leave. Regardless, he chose to stay.

    (Plus this was going back almost a year - even if a legal battle was 'dragged out for months', it wouldn't be dragging on a for a year!)

    The UCI said he could but the legal contract was going to take a fight in the courts and he might not have won.

    http://velonews.competitor.com/2009/11/ ... ana_101380

    And this was his statement AFTER the UCI said it was OK:
    "My advisers are still looking into it," said Contador, who won the Tour de France in 2007 and 2009 and both the Giro d'Italia and the Vuelta a Espana in 2008.

    "The procedure could be very long, lasting more than a month, and I don't want to find myself in December not knowing what I'm going to do in the future. But the new Astana is taking shape, with professional directors."
  • dg74
    dg74 Posts: 656
    AC to RadioShack next year.

    Imagine...
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    dg74 wrote:
    AC to RadioShack next year.

    Imagine...

    put the crackpipe down!
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Doobz wrote:
    dg74 wrote:
    AC to RadioShack next year.

    Imagine...

    put the crackpipe down!

    For enough money even the worst of enemies will get it together. And that all hinges on IF you believe that they are mortal enemies of each other. I'm getting the impression that it's mostly for the soap opera effect and they both know it. Just seems that all of the feudin' between the two comes mostly from journalists and TV reporters. After all, no one wants to hear a boring story of two competitors FRIENDLY relationship.
  • dg74
    dg74 Posts: 656
    Doobz wrote:
    dg74 wrote:
    AC to RadioShack next year.

    Imagine...

    put the crackpipe down!

    It's not as crazy as it sounds.

    Possibly the best rider of the tour and the best directeur working together with the best current tour rider? With enough clout and money to employ a tremendously strong team that could possibly dominate for the next 3-5 years.

    Is it really that implausible?
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    How can he trust JB and LA ever again after what they did last year? He basically got fukced over by them and you expect him to go there with all the cr@p and investigations linked with the RS..
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Doobz wrote:
    How can he trust JB and LA ever again after what they did last year? He basically got fukced over by them and you expect him to go there with all the cr@p and investigations linked with the RS..

    Even if ALL the stories of betrayal, deceit, etc., between them were true I would suggest
    that England was once at war with Germany and now.........
    People get "over" things and move on in life. Carrying grudges around is as counter productive as anything you can do.
    Also as far as investigations go, I'm sure that RS isn't the only team out there with some dirty laundry. Anyway that's how I see it.
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    Well if the rumors are true it was all about money. The rumors are $5.7 million (US $) per year! No way Garmin could afford that for one rider.

    (That's 4.5 million euros)
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    dennisn wrote:

    Even if ALL the stories of betrayal, deceit, etc., between them were true I would suggest
    that England was once at war with Germany and now.........
    People get "over" things and move on in life. Carrying grudges around is as counter productive as anything you can do.

    You've never met your average English football fan have you Dennis? As far as he's concerned we're still at war with Germany (and Argentina).
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    andyp wrote:
    dennisn wrote:

    Even if ALL the stories of betrayal, deceit, etc., between them were true I would suggest
    that England was once at war with Germany and now.........
    People get "over" things and move on in life. Carrying grudges around is as counter productive as anything you can do.

    You've never met your average English football fan have you Dennis? As far as he's concerned we're still at war with Germany (and Argentina).

    :lol::lol::lol:
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    dg74 wrote:
    It's not as crazy as it sounds.

    Is it really that implausible?

    It is to Bruyneel!


    “Will Contador ride for me again? That seems impossible to me,”
    Contador is the Greatest
  • dg74
    dg74 Posts: 656
    dg74 wrote:
    It's not as crazy as it sounds.

    Is it really that implausible?

    It is to Bruyneel!


    “Will Contador ride for me again? That seems impossible to me,”

    Time does heal and I'm sure a mega pay check would help it heal a whole lot quicker!

    I'd just not totally discount it.
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,123
    Pokerface wrote:
    donrhummy wrote:
    Um...no. He has not yet had a SINGLE opportunity to leave. He was looking for one but the lawyers told him that to get out of his current contract (which he TRIED to do) would mean he'd likely have to miss this year's TDF as it would drag on for months.


    Not sure where you read that, but the UCI specifically said he COULD leave. Regardless, he chose to stay.

    (Plus this was going back almost a year - even if a legal battle was 'dragged out for months', it wouldn't be dragging on a for a year!)

    My take on it is much the same as that of Pokerface. Yes there were legal complications, but In the end he decided to stay with Astana. Afterall why would they offer an amended contract if they already had him strapped in.
    As for staying with Astana now, the new contact is still undergoing negotiation but in the same way Astana pulled out all the stops to keep him last year, he will no doubt get a very favourable agreement this time.
    Other than that, I repeat, maybe he is happy with his current team and feels settled.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    dg74 wrote:
    It's not as crazy as it sounds.

    Is it really that implausible?

    It is to Bruyneel!


    “Will Contador ride for me again? That seems impossible to me,”

    An interesting quote. However, was he referring to AC in a sort of "at this moment" situation? Or was it more of a "he's under contract"? Or "we don't get along"? Or any number of reasons?
    In any case people do change their minds and JB and AC just might do exactly that.
    Next thing ya know, all is lovey dovey.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Contador will join RadioShack the same day the Pope signs for Rangers
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