Pro 3 Race-v-GP4000S...

hopper1
hopper1 Posts: 4,389
edited July 2010 in Road beginners
Ok, guys, can anyone say which of these has the lowest rolling resistance?...
Going to use one of them for racing.
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  • porker33
    porker33 Posts: 636
    I have used both subsequently on the same bike and really can't tell the difference in rolling resistance over my usual route...

    I have kept the 4000S on the bike as they appear more durable.
  • Dancing Bear
    Dancing Bear Posts: 185
    Pro race 3's for me
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  • balthazar
    balthazar Posts: 1,565
    There is a link here which includes RR of the predecessors to both models (PR2, and GP3000):

    http://www.terrymorse.com/bike/rolres.html

    Click through to see the source. I don't know how respected this test procedure was, so I wouldn't stand behind it yet; until then... of your two, I'd get the Michelins; of any, Vittoria.
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    I did read a very thorough test of tyres in a german mag a couple of years back. the GP4000s won and based on 4 years experience with them - I'd not use any others.
  • White Line
    White Line Posts: 887
    Pro 3 Race look better though. :idea:
    Emiliana the CAAD9
  • tkupsick
    tkupsick Posts: 6
    For what it worth. I've had both and my preference is for the Michelin. The Continental's are the only tires I have ever used that had side wall failures. Weird thing about it was the bike was resting against the wall both times after coming in from a ride.
  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    Pro Races, 2s and 3s, 2s imo better than 3s ......
  • sheffsimon
    sheffsimon Posts: 1,282
    Have changed from PR3's to Ultremo R1 for racing - at first because they were cheaper - now I think I prefer them.
  • Sheptastic
    Sheptastic Posts: 298
    a friend of a friend who is a UK pro said that the pro 3s were the best clincher tyres about.
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  • jermas
    jermas Posts: 484
    Gp4000 are a nice tyre -very grippy and great in the wet, BUT the tyre compound micro cuts pretty easily. Also the last set I used, neither of them lasted long enough to wear out as they both developed large bulges where the carcase had separated. Never had any problems with pr2, pr3 or krylions. Michelins seem more puncture resistant and more durable.
  • porker33
    porker33 Posts: 636
    Jermans, not looking for an arguement, but genuinely having used both i found compeletely the opposite, my Gp4000S appear far more durable than my Pro 3's which seem to cut up more easily.
    I did 200 miles on the Mich and took them off, 700 miles on the Gp4000S and they look better than the Michelins.

    Interesting, that even when we all compare our personal experiences, there is no definitive answer! :)
  • le_boss
    le_boss Posts: 183
    i tend to use gp4000s for training (especially at hedge cutting time) and in the winter. I find these much more puncture resistant than the Pro 3s.

    however, the Pro 3s are much much quicker imo and i only ever race with these.

    guess everyone is different and only way you'll know is by trying both :D
  • paulieb2006
    paulieb2006 Posts: 318
    Pro 3 for me. Have this set on for over a year now and could prob do with been changed in the next few weeks but still look great, roll super and dare I say it no P for over a year. Am thinking I shouldnt have included that last bit. It might get some funds released for a new set if the unspeakable does happen.
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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    After sliding GP4000s around my local crit circuit and having a 'hairy' moment in the Ardennes, I have much more confidence in ProRace3s.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • schlepcycling
    schlepcycling Posts: 1,614
    Dancing Bear wrote:
    Pro race 3's for me

    +1
    'Hello to Jason Isaacs'
  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    More or less confirms my thoughts...
    I do have both sets of tyres, and thought the PR3's were faster, but couldn't be sure... Maybe I was having a stronger ride!?...
    I'll put a PR3 on for next time...
    Gotta be faster than the Gatorskin I used last!
    Start with a budget, finish with a mortgage!
  • pbamf
    pbamf Posts: 69
    What about schwalbe ultremos :lol: or is that just opening up another arguement.

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