Carrying second water bottle

suzyb

I have an xxsmall bike so there is no space for a second bottle cage in the usual spot on the seat tube.

Can you get bottle cages to fit elsewhere on the bike (the underside of the top tube for example, only place I can see one fitting).

sheffsimon

suzyb wrote:

I have an xxsmall bike so there is no space for a second bottle cage in the usual spot on the seat tube.

Can you get bottle cages to fit elsewhere on the bike (the underside of the top tube for example, only place I can see one fitting).

You can get a bracket thingy which fits on the saddle, so you can fit another 1 or 2 bottles behind the saddle.

google "tacx saddle clamp"

schlepcycling

How about something like this http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Minoura_SBH-300_Dual_Bottle_Cage_Mount/5360020703/

El Diego

You can get a holder that fits on the back of your seat post.

JDALY46

Or one of these...

http://www.pedalon.co.uk/acatalog/bonti ... older.html

Monty Dog

You may be able to use a side-entry cage with the Minoura clamp-on mount above or use a saddle-mounted bracket and mounts like the Tacx. With saddle or post-mounted ones you need a secure cage like a Tacx Toa otherwise they are good bottle-launchers as soon as you hit a bump

suzyb

How very aero

Will have a look thanks. Didn't know you could get side mounting bottle cages either. One of them would come in handy for my MTB as well.

simon johnson

There you go!

msw

I had the same problem. Tried the Minoura one but to be honest just hated the way it looked (foolish I know) with 2 big brackets sticking out the back even when there's only 1 bottle. Then tried one which strapped round the frame and gave you fake bottle bosses - only to find that it didn't work because my (carbon) frame varies in diameter between the 2 mounts. Then tried using cable ties to fit a normal bottle cage round the seatpost with a bit of bar tape underneath to stop it scratching - this was probably the most successful method, the seatpost collar stops it sliding down too far, but still a bit wobbly.

Finally came up with a solution I like - back pocket. With 1 750 ml bottle in the downtube cage and a 500ml in my back pocket I'm usually good for about 3 hours. Simple.

(I still really want to find one of those handlebar-mounted ones but they seem to be extinct except on some American triathlon websites.)

rdt

For 2-bottle seatpost mounted systems, the Profile Design Aqua Rack holds the bottles extremely tightly, so the chances of a bottle bouncing out are low. But make sure it's the version that mounts to the seatpost, not the saddle rails.

The problem is you'll look like a triathlete though. :oops:
It might be preferable to die of thirst.

skyd0g

There's also the back pocket of your jersey.

suzyb

I was thinking I could possibly get one of these, attach it to the seat tube and fit a side access cage to it. Need to check if it will fit first.

If not then I'll probably mount it to the handlebars and fit a normal cage.

skyd0g

A couple of points to consider:
You don't necessarily need to be able to access your 2nd bottle on the move - you can just swop it with the empty one on your downtube when you stop.
A seat tube mounted bottle rack will also stop you mounting a seatpack there simultaneously - so the contents of your current seatpack will have to go into your jersey pockets.

If this is for your 51 mile challenge, chances are there will be somewhere you can refill your existing bottle en-route - possibly not even necessary if you take a 750ml bottle.

DCowling

Hi
I know it is probably against roadie biker law but why not a 'Camelback' or similar

will3

simon johnson wrote:

There you go!

Actually I got a handlebar mountded one for my tandem. From tesco IIRC.


Have you considered hiring a domestique?

Barteos

That's if you want to make your life easier.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Camel ... 360048198/

rdt

skyd0g wrote:

A seat tube mounted bottle rack will also stop you mounting a seatpack there simultaneously - so the contents of your current seatpack will have to go into your jersey pockets.

The Aqua Rack co-habited merrily with a seat-pack on my bike - that was a pre-condition for me. But I've a compact frame and quite a lot of seat post showing, which helped.

gabriel959

DCowling wrote:

Hi
I know it is probably against roadie biker law but why not a 'Camelback' or similar

Uncomfortable, heavy, unaero, 100 miles with one?!?!? - no no no no no .....noooooo

DCowling

gabriel959 wrote:

DCowling wrote:

Hi
I know it is probably against roadie biker law but why not a 'Camelback' or similar

Uncomfortable, heavy, unaero, 100 miles with one?!?!? - no no no no no .....noooooo

Heavy!!, yes I can see how that a couple litres of water would weigh you down, I can sympathise with the aerodynamics but the weight is relative ( it,s going to be somewhere on the bike, as for the 100 miles, I suspect it would be empty near the finish therefore wieghing very little at the end. I would say the biggest problem is the heat build up between pack and back.

Bikerbaboon

DCowling wrote:

gabriel959 wrote:

DCowling wrote:

Hi
I know it is probably against roadie biker law but why not a 'Camelback' or similar

Uncomfortable, heavy, unaero, 100 miles with one?!?!? - no no no no no .....noooooo

Heavy!!, yes I can see how that a couple litres of water would weigh you down, I can sympathise with the aerodynamics but the weight is relative ( it,s going to be somewhere on the bike, as for the 100 miles, I suspect it would be empty near the finish therefore wieghing very little at the end. I would say the biggest problem is the heat build up between pack and back.

If you have 3KG on your back you need to use your body to support the weight. Every move you make you are 3KG worse off. If that 3KG is on the Bike then every time you get out of the saddle you dont have to lift that extra weight. It may not be much but over 5+ hours in the saddle every little helps. Also unlike a MTB ride rodies are less likley to spray up cow crap up over the bottles on a ride so there is no reason no to mount the bottles on the bike rather than on the rider.

suzyb

Bikerbaboon wrote:

DCowling wrote:

gabriel959 wrote:

DCowling wrote:

Hi
I know it is probably against roadie biker law but why not a 'Camelback' or similar

Uncomfortable, heavy, unaero, 100 miles with one?!?!? - no no no no no .....noooooo

Heavy!!, yes I can see how that a couple litres of water would weigh you down, I can sympathise with the aerodynamics but the weight is relative ( it,s going to be somewhere on the bike, as for the 100 miles, I suspect it would be empty near the finish therefore wieghing very little at the end. I would say the biggest problem is the heat build up between pack and back.

If you have 3KG on your back you need to use your body to support the weight. Every move you make you are 3KG worse off. If that 3KG is on the Bike then every time you get out of the saddle you dont have to lift that extra weight. It may not be much but over 5+ hours in the saddle every little helps. Also unlike a MTB ride rodies are less likley to spray up cow crap up over the bottles on a ride so there is no reason no to mount the bottles on the bike rather than on the rider.

You've never seen some of the roads around here

ride_whenever

Howabout the shirt based camelbacks?

DCowling

Bikerbaboon wrote:

DCowling wrote:

gabriel959 wrote:

DCowling wrote:

Hi
I know it is probably against roadie biker law but why not a 'Camelback' or similar

If you have 3KG on your back you need to use your body to support the weight. Every move you make you are 3KG worse off. If that 3KG is on the Bike then every time you get out of the saddle you dont have to lift that extra weight. It may not be much but over 5+ hours in the saddle every little helps. Also unlike a MTB ride rodies are less likley to spray up cow crap up over the bottles on a ride so there is no reason no to mount the bottles on the bike rather than on the rider.

1 litre = 1kg and as I said this is getting progressivle lighter ( not realy as it will be inside you rather than outside)
also the advantage of the pack , is the balance, it is allways central. and as it is insulated it keeps the liquid cool, water is nice but nicer when cool on a hot day