Escaping from Black Holes

Mr Smooth
Mr Smooth Posts: 70
edited July 2010 in The bottom bracket
Now I didn't think anything could come out of black holes but clearly I'm wrong:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_ ... 555633.stm

How can it be a black hole if stuff is coming out? Small words please!

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  • el_presidente
    el_presidente Posts: 1,963
    I think it's matter & energy ejected from the accretion disk, and not coming from beyond the event horizon.
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  • unixnerd
    unixnerd Posts: 2,864
    The material isn't coming from the black hole's side of the event horizon, but from our side. It's material that hasn't yet fallen into the hole.

    Material CAN leave a black hole though! Hawking radiation is a result of quantum theory in which (to put it simply) electrons can disappear from one point around an atom and then appear in another. If the atom is just on the event horizon then the electronsl can be said to escape the black hole. I'm sure someone else can explain it more accurately :-)

    I'm sure there's a cosmological theory which states that due to Hawking radiation all black holes are eventually doomed to lose all the material on the inside of the event horizon and thus not be black holes any more.
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  • unixnerd
    unixnerd Posts: 2,864
    The material isn't coming from the black hole's side of the event horizon, but from our side. It's material that hasn't yet fallen into the hole.

    Material CAN leave a black hole though! Hawking radiation is a result of quantum theory in which (to put it simply) electrons can disappear from one point around an atom and then appear in another. If the atom is just on the event horizon then the electronsl can be said to escape the black hole. I'm sure someone else can explain it more accurately :-)

    I'm sure there's a cosmological theory which states that due to Hawking radiation all black holes are eventually doomed to lose all the material on the inside of the event horizon and thus not be black holes any more.
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  • spen666
    spen666 Posts: 17,709
    edited July 2010
    Mr Smooth - you are making the mistake of assuming science is fact rather than best fit theory.
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Mr Smooth wrote:
    Now I didn't think anything could come out of black holes but clearly I'm wrong:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_ ... 555633.stm

    How can it be a black hole if stuff is coming out? Small words please!

    Think of it as sort of a black hole when you're off the back. Nothing escapes off the back.
    You are sucked out of the front group and forever trapped in that ever darkening area,
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  • passout
    passout Posts: 4,425
    Black Holes suck.
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  • DrewDubya
    DrewDubya Posts: 35
    Releasing of energy from a black gole is related to the fact that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Fundamentally the fact that matter is captured by a black hole means energy must be realised.

    Also, black holes do emit matter. Heisenberg's uncertainty principle (simply) sates that matter can spontaneously come into existance, as long as it is balanced by the appropriate anit-matter. (So there is no net gain in matter or energy to the Univere).
    If this happens on the even horizon, one part could be swallowed by the black hole, leaving the other free - and hence emitted from the black hole - kind of indicating that the black hole is actually creating stuff.
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    Everytime I have almost been sucked into a black hole I have just clicked up a gear and stood up. Quadpower should get you out of any sticky situations like this 8)
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Everytime I have almost been sucked into a black hole I have just clicked up a gear and stood up. Quadpower should get you out of any sticky situations like this 8)

    Yes, but sometimes you get too close to the event horizon(off the back too far) and no quad power in the world will save you.
  • Cleat Eastwood
    Cleat Eastwood Posts: 7,508
    Astronomers say the two streams of particles they observed are the most powerful pair of jets ever seen from a stellar-mass black hole.

    The other being Petacchi :D
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  • dennisn wrote:
    Everytime I have almost been sucked into a black hole I have just clicked up a gear and stood up. Quadpower should get you out of any sticky situations like this 8)

    Yes, but sometimes you get too close to the event horizon(off the back too far) and no quad power in the world will save you.


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  • Homer J
    Homer J Posts: 920
    Stuff does come out of a black hole - it's just the opposite end
  • Airwave
    Airwave Posts: 483
    There's also chocolate so dark light can't escape it's surface-eat to much&you dissapear,unlike normal chocolate where you just get fatter :lol:
  • bennett_346
    bennett_346 Posts: 5,029
    Homer J wrote:
    Stuff does come out of a black hole - it's just the opposite end
    :roll:
  • Mike Healey
    Mike Healey Posts: 1,023
    A small black hole has been observed blowing a vast bubble of hot gas 1,000 light-years across.

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