Lanterne Rouge

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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Tusher wrote:
    Let's see who has a quiet day in the peloton tomorrow and who makes waves in the LR competition. The high mountains can be a tricky act for the serious contenders- who can loose enough time without being time excluded?

    Like my 12/1 shot Stijn VDB!

    I think Hernandez is injured or something. He was being treated by Dr Porte yesterday. Which clearly makes his lanterne rouge effort all the more heroic.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Stage 8- Radioshack had a good day then, with Dmitriy Muravyev taking the lead by only 4 seconds from Adriano Malori of Lampre.

    And as the Shack's GC hopes fade, they can now concentrate all their efforts on keeping Dmitriy safe for the rest of the race. As I type, the Hog is no doubt working on his strategy to grab the famed Lanterne Rouge in Paris, and keep it for 7 years. Dmitriy will be being treated to special massages (I can recommend the Boby Shop's peppermint foot balm and Tesco's own brand baby oil) and a diet appropriate to the Lanterne's needs. Which may or may not come with extra fries.

    Hovering in the background, however, and ready to pounce on any weakness are -

    Jesus Hernandez (36 seconds) and
    Anthony Roux of FdJ
    Samuel Dumoulin (Cofidis)
    Greta Bole (Lampre)
    Andreas Klier (Cervelo)
    Dries Devenyns (Quick Step)

    Nice to see a variety of teams represented, but I am surprised that Footon are only 33rd on LR with Markus Eibegger, 22 minutes 38 seconds behind Dmitriy. From the reports I read in the cycling press, I was expecting a lot more from this team, who appeared to have so many credentials for this prestigious annual event.

    Missing Wim and Kenny this year though. Still, there's plenty of time for a true champion to emerge.
  • lucybears
    lucybears Posts: 366
    “The Tour’s finished for me,” Armstrong said, according to a taped interview sent to media by his RadioShack team. “But I can stay in the race, try and win stages, help the team.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-1 ... nders.html
    interview.cyclingfever.com
  • ms_tree
    ms_tree Posts: 1,405
    Ms Tree wrote:
    I suppose it would be wrong to pick His Twitness would it? :D

    Do you think I may be in the running to win this mini PTPLR?? :D
    'Google can bring back a hundred thousand answers. A librarian can bring you back the right one.'
    Neil Gaiman
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    I suspect you may very well be, Ms Tree. And you should be awarded 100 points which I'll ask afx to transfer to the PTP league immediately after the Champs, putting you so far in advance for the year that everyone else would give up. :D

    Y'know, I wouldn't put it past him to try. The Lanterne always gains that little bit extra publicity, more money on the crit circuit afterwards...........apparently last year Kenny was gutted that he had to withdraw, he had so many profitable crit appearances lined up.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Tusher wrote:
    I suspect you may very well be, Ms Tree. And you should be awarded 100 points which I'll ask afx to transfer to the PTP league immediately after the Champs, putting you so far in advance for the year that everyone else would give up. :D

    Y'know, I wouldn't put it past him to try. The Lanterne always gains that little bit extra publicity, more money on the crit circuit afterwards...........apparently last year Kenny was gutted that he had to withdraw, he had so many profitable crit appearances lined up.

    Pah! Armstrong hasn't got what it takes to take the lantern rouge. To get the yellow jersey you have to ride for 8 or 9 stages, the rest are easy days. For the lantern you have to be on guard every single stage. There are attacks off the back in the last 10k every day. Vansevernant had to chase down an attack on the Champs Elysees on at least one occasion.
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  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Bernie Eisel, 2008 IIRC Richard. And you're quite right- the GC guys have it easy compared to the Lanternes- some are even expected to undertake domestique and lead-out duties whilst struggling to come last. It ain't easy for them, that's for sure.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    So, today we have Adriano Malori as our winner, an impressive 2 hours and 2 minutes ahead of Andy Schleck, who clearly has no hope this year and may as well pack his suitcase and head for the principality.

    Adriano rides for Lampre, is 22 years old and has previously held the Italian Junior time trial champion and in 2009 won a gold medal for Italy in the Mediterranean Games.


    I had never heard of the Mediterranean Games before. I shall add it to the list of Useless Things I learn from following cycling.
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    I have a sneaky hunch Bole may steal it from his teammate. He's nicely poised for a big push in the third week.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    In the new procycling Malori is tipped for big things.... and they were right!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    I think Malori's lack of experience showed today. He missed the split in the peloton, ending up in the front half, while Anthony Roux attacked the back of the second half, making up about two and a half minutes on his rival.
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  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Indeed, the race is beginning to come alive. Malori still in the lead over Roux though, by 1 minute, 13 seconds. Shame Roux couldn't have made up the time and pulled off the win on Bastille Day.

    Just for interest, here are the top 8:-

    HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus ASTANA 50h 50' 03" + 1h 49' 07"
    REDA Francesco QUICK STEP 50h 51' 13" + 1h 50' 17"
    FARRAR Tyler GARMIN - TRANSITIONS 50h 51' 14" + 1h 50' 18"
    MURAVYEV Dmitriy TEAM RADIOSHACK 50h 55' 56" + 1h 55' 00"
    KLIER Andreas CERVELO TEST TEAM 50h 57' 21" + 1h 56' 25"
    DUMOULIN Samuel COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE 50h 58' 33" + 1h 57' 37"
    ROUX Anthony FDJ 51h 01' 42" + 2h 00' 46"
    MALORI Adriano LAMPRE - FARNESE 51h 03' 25" + 2h 02' 29"

    British interest is in one "HUNT Jérémy" as the French charmingly write his Christian name. The French are so cultured, Jérémy can't help but sound sexy. A Jérémy would tell a girl she looks fabulous no matter what she's wearing, pay for the meal without batting an eyelid and present her with flowers from a florist (rather than a petrol station). Can you imagine a Jezza behaving like that?

    Anyway, our Mr Hunt is 19 minutes and over 15 minutes down. His Cervelo team-mate, Dan Lloyd is 29 seconds and two places behind.

    Watch this space..............
  • paulcuthbert
    paulcuthbert Posts: 1,016
    Sorry for the ignorance...

    But what is the cut-off time for the stage finish?
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  • Cleat Eastwood
    Cleat Eastwood Posts: 7,508
    Tusher wrote:
    Indeed, the race is beginning to come alive. Malori still in the lead over Roux though, by 1 minute, 13 seconds. Shame Roux couldn't have made up the time and pulled off the win on Bastille Day.

    Just for interest, here are the top 8:-

    HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus ASTANA 50h 50' 03" + 1h 49' 07"
    REDA Francesco QUICK STEP 50h 51' 13" + 1h 50' 17"
    FARRAR Tyler GARMIN - TRANSITIONS 50h 51' 14" + 1h 50' 18"
    MURAVYEV Dmitriy TEAM RADIOSHACK 50h 55' 56" + 1h 55' 00"
    KLIER Andreas CERVELO TEST TEAM 50h 57' 21" + 1h 56' 25"
    DUMOULIN Samuel COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE 50h 58' 33" + 1h 57' 37"
    ROUX Anthony FDJ 51h 01' 42" + 2h 00' 46"
    MALORI Adriano LAMPRE - FARNESE 51h 03' 25" + 2h 02' 29"

    British interest is in one "HUNT Jérémy" as the French charmingly write his Christian name. The French are so cultured, Jérémy can't help but sound sexy. A Jérémy would tell a girl she looks fabulous no matter what she's wearing, pay for the meal without batting an eyelid and present her with flowers from a florist (rather than a petrol station). Can you imagine a Jezza behaving like that?

    Anyway, our Mr Hunt is 19 minutes and over 15 minutes down. His Cervelo team-mate, Dan Lloyd is 29 seconds and two places behind.

    Watch this space..............

    And then dump her when he realises she's betting on him being even worse than ex chef and part time pedaller Anthony Roux :D
    The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
    momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    I remember it being 10% of the winner's time (so 6 minutes per hour roughly) but it is interpreted by the organizers loosely. And there are different rules for the ITT and the Team Time Trial. (Not sure if there's even a cut-off for those). If it's a solitary rider, then they impose the cut-off time strictly (which is what made Kenny's valiant ride last year so thrilling), whereas if a gang of sprinters struggle over a couple of Very Big Hills and end up puffing and panting, say, 25 minutes down on a stage where the winner has won in 4 hours, then they'll all be allowed to stay, 'cos the organizers ain't daft. No point excluding those they don't have to.

    It's one of the reason the sprinters (who are usually excellent descenders, but we rarely see that) stick together- they know that they have power in numbers. In 2008,for example, Cav was dropped from the autobus and was in real danger of not making the time-cut on a couple of times, and it's why he ranted against Ricco for his medically assisted win in the mountains. That win could have had a ripple down effect on those struggling to make the time cut.

    Naturally, climbers do not have to worry about failing to make the time cut on a flat stage.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Mr Cleat Eastwood,
    I shall rise above this comment- unless you explain what on earth your avatar thingies are meant to be? :D

    (and I do appreciate that this is from someone who has yet to work out how to put in a photograph on my own login. I'm aiming for one of my cat. He's gorgeous and I know you'll all love him).
  • AidanR
    AidanR Posts: 1,142
    Tusher wrote:
    Mr Cleat Eastwood,
    I shall rise above this comment- unless you explain what on earth your avatar thingies are meant to be? :D

    (and I do appreciate that this is from someone who has yet to work out how to put in a photograph on my own login. I'm aiming for one of my cat. He's gorgeous and I know you'll all love him).

    One phrase - "To me, to you, to me, to you..."
    Bike lover and part-time cyclist.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Stage 11. Clearly, today's Lanterne Rouge should have gone to Mr Renshaw, but in the interests purely of trying to rob my beloved Cav of victories, he's been sent packing.

    Back on topic though, a bad day for Malori as he slips down to third place behind Samuel Dumoulin whilst Anthony Roux takes the lead.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    We always see the jersey holders on the podium so we know what they look like, but never the LR. So let's change that by putting up a picture of the leader.

    Here's Anthony 'not a chef' Roux

    578px-Anthony_Roux.jpg
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Tusher wrote:
    Mr Cleat Eastwood,
    I shall rise above this comment- unless you explain what on earth your avatar thingies are meant to be? :D

    It's a picture of Messrs McQuaid and Verbruggen.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Stage 12- HTC Columbia retaliate by managing to get Bert Grabsch into second place, only a thrilling 49 seconds behind our chef, Anthony Roux.

    Can FdJ withstand the power of the mighty HTC Columbia squad? An angry and bitter squad determined to snatch a prize-any prize- in Paris. No maillot vert perhaps, but a little red lantern may just satisfy the sponsors.

    I expect to see the other teams ganging up on Uncle Bob's boys over the coming few days.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    afx237vi wrote:
    Tusher wrote:
    Mr Cleat Eastwood,
    I shall rise above this comment- unless you explain what on earth your avatar thingies are meant to be? :D

    It's a picture of Messrs McQuaid and Verbruggen.

    Doh!
  • AidanR
    AidanR Posts: 1,142
    Tusher wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    Tusher wrote:
    Mr Cleat Eastwood,
    I shall rise above this comment- unless you explain what on earth your avatar thingies are meant to be? :D

    It's a picture of Messrs McQuaid and Verbruggen.

    Doh!

    OK, I can't let afx do this to you... it's the Chuckle Brothers, who have a kids TV programme in the UK. But their brand of daft comedy isn't that far from McQuaid and Verbruggen's, only without holding back an entire sport.
    Bike lover and part-time cyclist.
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    RichN95 wrote:
    We always see the jersey holders on the podium so we know what they look like, but never the LR. So let's change that by putting up a picture of the leader.

    Here's Anthony 'not a chef' Roux

    578px-Anthony_Roux.jpg

    He really needs to squeeze that zit...

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • paulcuthbert
    paulcuthbert Posts: 1,016
    paulcuthbert wrote:
    Sorry for the ignorance...

    But what is the cut-off time for the stage finish?

    I'll ask again...

    What is the cut-off time for the stage finish for a rider to be disqualified?

    HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!?!?!?!
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    paulcuthbert wrote:
    paulcuthbert wrote:
    Sorry for the ignorance...

    But what is the cut-off time for the stage finish?

    I'll ask again...

    What is the cut-off time for the stage finish for a rider to be disqualified?

    HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!?!?!?!

    The reason no-one's answered is probably because it is a hopelessly complicated system of coefficients based on the terrain and the average speed of the stage.

    If you really what to delve into the mathematics then have a look at the official rules in this PDF. Scoll down to Article 22, starting on page 33 (it takes up nearly 2 1/2 pages).

    http://www.letour.fr/2010/TDF/COURSE/docs/reglement.pdf
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  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    And here was me thinking the Chuckle Brothers were a pair of politicians as well.

    The Things I Learn on the Internet. And Wikipedia.

    Paul, I DID answer your question (which was an excellent question) to the best of my ability, anyway.

    Now, away to check up on today's Lanterne...............
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    No change, Roux has extended his lead over Grabsch to 57 seconds, Adriano, Dmitriy and Jesus just behind that.
  • Abdoujaparov
    Abdoujaparov Posts: 642
    Has anyone ever lost a few minutes on the last stage on purpose just to finish as the lanterne rouge?! If you're going to finish in the bottom five anyway, why not ease up on the final stage for a laugh? :)
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Abdoujaparov wrote:
    Has anyone ever lost a few minutes on the last stage on purpose just to finish as the lanterne rouge?! If you're going to finish in the bottom five anyway, why not ease up on the final stage for a laugh? :)

    Bernard Eisel tried it a couple of years ago, but he was up against the Eddy Merckx of last place, Wim Vansevernant, who spotted this and countered Bernie's 'attack'
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