Energy drinks - making your own?
teamtalairan
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Hi, I've been using energy drinks (e.g. Zipfit) before long rides which have been great, but obviously its a costly business. Anyone got good recipes for making your own? I've ordered some Glucose, Multi dextrose and whey protein ... what recipes do you use?
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Here you go Jim posts on here and he nakes his own, I bought the ingredients to make my own too.
5kg Maltodextrin
1kg Fructose
100G Electrolyte powder.
The above is the quanitity I bought not mixed up I just followed the basic recipes on Jims site.
I used to get cramp a lot but since adding electrolyte powder it hasn't been nearly as bad! For a bit of protein I take some nut bar thing to eat.0 -
Whey protein is for recovery drinks. I use Maltodextrin and fructose as well - maybe you should have asked the question before buying stuff?More problems but still living....0
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NDawn wrote:Here you go Jim posts on here and he nakes his own, I bought the ingredients to make my own too.
5kg Maltodextrin
1kg Fructose
100G Electrolyte powder.
I used to get cramp a lot but since adding electrolyte powder it hasn't been nearly as bad! For a bit of protein I take some nut bar thing to eat.
100 grams???More problems but still living....0 -
amaferanga wrote:NDawn wrote:Here you go Jim posts on here and he nakes his own, I bought the ingredients to make my own too.
5kg Maltodextrin
1kg Fructose
100G Electrolyte powder.
I used to get cramp a lot but since adding electrolyte powder it hasn't been nearly as bad! For a bit of protein I take some nut bar thing to eat.
100 grams???
I should have said that was the quantity I bought :oops: not the quantity I mix up, I shall edit before someone sticks 100G of electrolyte powder in their bottle
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anyone got any preference on protein powders - always been a sceptic as they are not complex proteins like meat, so miss many essential amino acids...
Wouldn't a tin of value tuna after a ride be massively better?!0 -
Scrumple wrote:anyone got any preference on protein powders - always been a sceptic as they are not complex proteins like meat, so miss many essential amino acids...
Wouldn't a tin of value tuna after a ride be massively better?!
You crack on with the tuna! I'll stick to recovery drinks...0 -
I just have pasta/chicken and a tomato/basil sauce after a ride. With some energy drink to wash it down.0
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Scrumple wrote:anyone got any preference on protein powders - always been a sceptic as they are not complex proteins like meat, so miss many essential amino acids...
Wouldn't a tin of value tuna after a ride be massively better?!
No!
If you read up on some of the better protein powders, they actually contain BCAA's which you will not find readily available in normal food stuffs...Start with a budget, finish with a mortgage!0 -
back to my question then - whats the best option to make yourself, from myprotein?
A "better quality" mix?
What to buy?0 -
amaferanga wrote:Whey protein is for recovery drinks. I use Maltodextrin and fructose as well - maybe you should have asked the question before buying stuff?
Protein (usually whey or soya) whilst predominatly used in recovery drinks is actually now added to some energy drinks (High5) as the latest reserach shows that protein may be beneficial for long endurance efforts.
Not sure if you were questioning the usefulness of glucose however for anyone interested in it you should check this out:
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/ ... erald.aspx0 -
hopper1 wrote:Scrumple wrote:anyone got any preference on protein powders - always been a sceptic as they are not complex proteins like meat, so miss many essential amino acids...
Wouldn't a tin of value tuna after a ride be massively better?!
No!
If you read up on some of the better protein powders, they actually contain BCAA's which you will not find readily available in normal food stuffs...
Tuna is actually very rich in the same amino acids that are BCAA's (leucine, isoleucine and valine) ( http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ has details)
For me the reason is simply convenience! slurping down a drink is just so much easier as you walk in the door than eating food.Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/0 -
I did (look at the website link)- but I questioned the value of normal powders v real meat/fish.
I was shot down, as two of you state that powders/recovery drinks are in some cases better....
So what do YOU use that is "better". If you disagree with me what do you put in your glass - specifically.
EDIT: suspect the above link shows that my tin of value tuna is nature's way of showing you that a drink isn't quite the magic you think?0 -
Scrumple wrote:I did (look at the website link)- but I questioned the value of normal powders v real meat/fish.
Cost, Convenience, and there are possibly advantages in a particular mix of amino acids - ie you don't want to waste digestion time on things you don't need for recovery (ie no point getting the tryptophan in) but those are only in the most "advanced" formulas and rely on rather limited evidence anyway.
I do use larger amounts of glutamine and BCAA's than would be obtained just from "regular" protein sources, as there is some (although not conclusive) evidence that it's better.
In reality the differences are incredibly marginal, the important thing is to get some protein and carbohydrate inside you as soon as possible post ride, and that's the reason I use powder, it's just easier.Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/0 -
I just do what my nutritionist tells me and trust his judgement...0
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I`ve started making my own after reading this,
http://www.bikeradar.com/fitness/articl ... rink-25744
all you need is water, sugar and a pinch of salt. It works great for me.Smarter than the average bear.0 -
rots your teeth....
matodextrin is far better as it wont leave you with stumps.0 -
My teeth are fine.Smarter than the average bear.0
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most 15 year old smokers say that about their lungs....0
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I can see my pearly whites, they can`t see their lungs...
Maltodextrin probably rots your teeth as well, best thing is not to swill it in your mouth and have a drink of water when you get back.Smarter than the average bear.0 -
Holland and Barrett sell Glucose and Fructose powder for the princely sum of £1.19 for a 500g box (it's not on the website though). Beige box, not in the bodybuilding/sports section of the shop either.
6 heaped spoonfuls, pinch of salt, job done.
"Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult"0 -
I use Reflex Pure Whey, or USN Pure Protein, with a peice of fruit after a ride... Sometimes a SIS Rego...Start with a budget, finish with a mortgage!0
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I won't claim to be an expert but I'm sure this is not true. After all, those protein powders come from food sources such as whey (milk), soya etc.hopper1 wrote:If you read up on some of the better protein powders, they actually contain BCAA's which you will not find readily available in normal food stuffs...
Branded recovery drinks are an expensive way of getting a quick shot of the necessary proteins. That's fine for those who need/can afford them, but I suspect a milkshake with banana or other fruits and taken with a multivitamin & mineral would be adequate for those of us not taking our training (or the supplement marketing blurb) too seriously. A varied diet containing green veg, mixed nuts and seeds go a long way to helping with proteins/amino acids too. While you can also get lots of protein from meat, eggs and dairy vegetarian & vegan athletes and bodybuilders will tell you eating meat or dairy is not essential.
@NapD hopefully your nutritionist is a properly qualified and well versed in the research. There are good number of snake oil sellers in the nutrition/supplement world and plenty of people claiming to be nutritionists, even some with 'qualifications', cannot differentiate an elbow from an a*se. My wife knows one (a FE college lecturer :roll: ), and could wipe the floor with her so-called 'knowledge'.Aspire not to have more, but to be more.0 -
Gilian McKeith was the biggest fraud of them all - she just told people to eat healthy stuff, and made a lot of her qualifications up! Apart from a poo doctor, she had nothing anyone with common sense didn't have!
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