What happens to the 11 grand?

pottssteve
pottssteve Posts: 4,069
edited June 2010 in The bottom bracket
Reading this:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100624/tuk ... dbed5.html

This tw@t has cost taxpayers 11 thousand pounds, plus the costs of the inquiry and the court case. In return he's got a suspended sentence and 200 hours community service.

Guessing the costs of bringing him to court as 1000 quid, that works out as he's effectively been paid 60 quid an hour to do the community service.

Would he have to pay the benefit back? If not the whole thing's a complete farce. :evil:
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  • Harry B
    Harry B Posts: 1,239
    pottssteve wrote:
    Reading this:
    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100624/tuk ... dbed5.html

    This tw@t has cost taxpayers 11 thousand pounds, plus the costs of the inquiry and the court case. In return he's got a suspended sentence and 200 hours community service.

    Guessing the costs of bringing him to court as 1000 quid, that works out as he's effectively been paid 60 quid an hour to do the community service.

    Would he have to pay the benefit back? If not the whole thing's a complete farce. :evil:

    He probably will have to pay it back, assuming he has the means to do so. Re: the cost of bringing him to court I would suggest most small cases cost more than any fine which is handed down but that should not be a reason for failing to bring them to court.
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  • Mad Roadie
    Mad Roadie Posts: 710
    give him the injuries he has been claiming for... that will sort it! :twisted:
  • Ollieda
    Ollieda Posts: 1,010
    whats the betting that during those 200 hours he sustains an injury and can no longer work and needs to claim benefits again!
  • Mr_Cellophane
    Mr_Cellophane Posts: 690
    After the hearing Freeman apologised: "I'm sorry for what I did but what's done is done. I just want to get a job now."

    That's only because he won't be getting any benefits now. I can't understand the stupidity of people who claim to be very severely disabled, but play contact sports.
  • tom101
    tom101 Posts: 39
    This tw@t costs taxpayers £7.9m per year and wants £5m more despite having assets worth billions including a private art collection alone worth more than £10 billion.

    The whole thing's a complete farce.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II
  • Mr_Cellophane
    Mr_Cellophane Posts: 690
    tom101 wrote:
    This tw@t costs taxpayers £7.9m per year and wants £5m more despite having assets worth billions including a private art collection alone worth more than £10 billion.

    The whole thing's a complete farce.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II

    At least she works and has done since she was 26 and still going strong at 84.
  • tom101
    tom101 Posts: 39
    No she doesn't. She receives state aid. Saying she works by performing her duties is like saying that someone who is on the dole is working by filling in the forms to required to receive it.
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    Yes he has to pay it back, I referred a case to our Fraud Dept a few years ago, we got enough back to pay me for over 2 years.
  • sheffsimon
    sheffsimon Posts: 1,282
    Mr_Cellophane wrote:
    tom101 wrote:
    This tw@t costs taxpayers £7.9m per year and wants £5m more despite having assets worth billions including a private art collection alone worth more than £10 billion.

    The whole thing's a complete farce.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II

    At least she works and has done since she was 26 and still going strong at 84.

    Eh??
  • pottssteve
    pottssteve Posts: 4,069
    Stewie Griffin wrote:
    Yes he has to pay it back, I referred a case to our Fraud Dept a few years ago, we got enough back to pay me for over 2 years.

    Stewie,
    Glad to hear it. I often wondered about the money wrongly claimed in these cases...

    Steve
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  • pst88
    pst88 Posts: 621
    SheffSimon wrote:
    At least she works and has done since she was 26 and still going strong at 84.

    I hardly think cutting a few ribbons counts as work now does it?
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  • rhext
    rhext Posts: 1,639
    SheffSimon wrote:
    Mr_Cellophane wrote:
    tom101 wrote:
    This tw@t costs taxpayers £7.9m per year and wants £5m more despite having assets worth billions including a private art collection alone worth more than £10 billion.

    The whole thing's a complete farce.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II

    At least she works and has done since she was 26 and still going strong at 84.

    Eh??

    Well whatever it is she does, it looks like work to me. From the day she was born, her life has not been her own. Sure, there are compensations, but I'm not sure I'd want to swap places with her! A whole life without ever once being in the position to say 'sod it, i'm off into the hills on my bike...''

    I don't really think this bears comparison with a benefits cheat.....
  • meenaghman
    meenaghman Posts: 345
    >> A whole life without ever once being in the position to say 'sod it, i'm off into the hills on my bike...'' >>

    Precisely... so lets allow her and the rest of the hangers on to enjoy life at their expense, not ours, and have a 5yr or 7yr elected head of state to represent the country.
  • rhext
    rhext Posts: 1,639
    Ah, you assume that I have enough sympathy for the royal family to let them off the hook. I'm perfectly happy letting them sit there and squirm in order to preserve a pretty central aspect of a cultural heritage which goes back to the dark ages. Elected head of state? What an utterly dreadful idea! We'd be completely indistinguishable from the Americans then!
  • rhext
    rhext Posts: 1,639
    Actually, it's worse than that. We'd be like the French![/i]
  • meenaghman
    meenaghman Posts: 345
    I think you'll find your cultural heritage goes back to the the Saxe Coburgs.. Some tentative links in the monarchy. Not forgetting the cousins that had a spat in 14-18 and wasted the lives of many throwing their toys out of their pram
    never mind the 100yr old granny purportedly leaving about 20M in gambling debts for the nation to pick up... of course we can't know for certain as all royal wills are sealed documents unavailable to the masses.
    Still must be a good few quid to be collected from inheritance tax when QE2 goes belly up .. oh what f**k ..another loophole..
  • Cleat Eastwood
    Cleat Eastwood Posts: 7,508
    meenaghman wrote:
    I think you'll find your cultural heritage goes back to the the Saxe Coburgs.. Some tentative links in the monarchy. Not forgetting the cousins that had a spat in 14-18 and wasted the lives of many throwing their toys out of their pram
    never mind the 100yr old granny purportedly leaving about 20M in gambling debts for the nation to pick up... of course we can't know for certain as all royal wills are sealed documents unavailable to the masses.
    Still must be a good few quid to be collected from inheritance tax when QE2 goes belly up .. oh what f**k ..another loophole..

    Indeed our loveable royals so nearly died a natural death in the early part of last century and had to reinvent themslves in the light of the spread of bolshevishm across europe. SO fearful of annihilation they had to publically ditch their german ancestry whilst asking the decent working folk to fight the bosch. Our cultural heritage is as morally corrupt as the royals are sponging hypocrites.

    And what so bad about being french. A united TDF and Tour of Britain.....i'm in for that
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  • rhext
    rhext Posts: 1,639
    meenaghman wrote:
    I think you'll find your cultural heritage goes back to the the Saxe Coburgs.. Some tentative links in the monarchy. Not forgetting the cousins that had a spat in 14-18 and wasted the lives of many throwing their toys out of their pram
    never mind the 100yr old granny purportedly leaving about 20M in gambling debts for the nation to pick up... of course we can't know for certain as all royal wills are sealed documents unavailable to the masses.
    Still must be a good few quid to be collected from inheritance tax when QE2 goes belly up .. oh what f**k ..another loophole..

    I'm not talking about the ancestry of the current incumbents, I'm talking about the institution of the monarchy. Which, if I recall correctly, apart from a brief and rather unsuccessful flirtation with republicanism under Mr Cromwell, does go back pretty much to the dark ages.

    And of course there are different rules for the monarchy, they wouldn't be much of a monarchy otherwise....

    I'd never make the mistake of allowing them any executive power, but if you've got to have a head of state, might as well have an eccentric one!
  • Cleat Eastwood
    Cleat Eastwood Posts: 7,508
    Yes but a combined TDF and TOB??? :D
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  • rhext
    rhext Posts: 1,639
    Cleat Eastwood wrote:
    meenaghman wrote:
    I think you'll find your cultural heritage goes back to the the Saxe Coburgs.. Some tentative links in the monarchy. Not forgetting the cousins that had a spat in 14-18 and wasted the lives of many throwing their toys out of their pram
    never mind the 100yr old granny purportedly leaving about 20M in gambling debts for the nation to pick up... of course we can't know for certain as all royal wills are sealed documents unavailable to the masses.
    Still must be a good few quid to be collected from inheritance tax when QE2 goes belly up .. oh what f**k ..another loophole..

    Indeed our loveable royals so nearly died a natural death in the early part of last century and had to reinvent themslves in the light of the spread of bolshevishm across europe. SO fearful of annihilation they had to publically ditch their german ancestry whilst asking the decent working folk to fight the bosch. Our cultural heritage is as morally corrupt as the royals are sponging hypocrites.

    And what so bad about being french. A united TDF and Tour of Britain.....i'm in for that

    Funny, I thought it was parliament decided to fight the bosch! And I'm still not convinced that was the wrong thing to do.

    As to the 'what's so bad about being french'.....I'll leave that to others to comment!
  • rhext
    rhext Posts: 1,639
    Cleat Eastwood wrote:
    Yes but a combined TDF and TOB??? :D

    Oh, go on then, if you put it like that! Provided you call it the Tour of Britain (and France)!
  • tom101
    tom101 Posts: 39
    rhext wrote:
    'sod it, i'm off into the hills on my bike...''

    Cycling's not really her bag, she prefers to say 'sod it, i'm off into the hills to shoot furry animals'. But were she to want to go off on her Trek Madone SSLx she could and would do. But you and I would be paying for the bike, the security guards, the crown shaped helmet, diamond encrusted paniers for the corgis and the trailing Bentley carrying her packed lunch. What's more the hill would probably be one her ancestors had nicked off yours.
    rhext wrote:
    I don't really think this bears comparison with a benefits cheat.....

    No you're right. Stopping her benefits for a year would pay for a school or half a hospital, not just appease a few Daily Mail readers.
  • ynyswen24
    ynyswen24 Posts: 703
    Cleat Eastwood wrote:
    Yes but a combined TDF and TOB??? :D

    ATM
  • tri-sexual
    tri-sexual Posts: 672
    Mad Roadie wrote:
    give him the injuries he has been claiming for... that will sort it! :twisted:

    which political party do you represent?
    i would certainly vote for you
    wisest thing i have heard in ages

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