World Cup so far....Positives & Negatives

IronHorse100

Negatives:
The first 6 games I watched being total dross
England's worrying poor form
The Jabulani ball flying off into row z with little human intervention
The lack of classic WC 'characters' (Valderrama, Stoichkov, Chilavert etc....)
F***ing Vuvuzela's
Alan Shearer's punditry
Stevie G's press conferences (cheer the f**ck up man!)
Germany's inevitable brilliance
African teams having seemingly all gone backwards
The Bafana Bafana bubble bursting after Uruguay game
The feeling of impending anti-climax for SA once Fifa are out of town and riding off into the sunset with all the cash (back to Switzerland)

Positives
The enthusiasm of the South African people
smaller teams playing some great stuff - Uruguay, Mexico and to a lesser extent Korea DPR
Jong Tae-Se's tears at the national anthem
Clarence Seedorf being an all round top geezer
The ridiculously elaborate South American national anthems (but where are the mullets/'taches/afros?)
England's tiresome band being drowned out by f**ing vuvuzela's
France!
The prospect that England must get better - COME ON INGERLAND!!

hopper1

Negatives: It's still on TV...


Positives: It'll be over soon....

Cleat Eastwood

positives: The african peoples joyfulness
Marcel Desailly
Edgar Davids
The itv pre match coverage
Kelly Cates (dalglish)
Chile having a go at playing footy
French being tonked
The itv/bbc theme tunes
The vuvuzelas
England doing what england do and notlosing their heads.
Seeing underdogs liek New Zealand get a last minute winner


Negatives
Klinsmann using a phrase like "We expected to win the 1990 world cup"
The bbc bus
Linekers puns
The beeb trying to be PC and visiting the townships.....with multi millionaire ex footballers as reporters
the moaning about the vuvuzelas
calling SA the bufana, as if they were their local team
Garth Crooks
Garth Crooks
Garth Crooks
Lack of goals
Greece.
No standout celebration goal dances.
Garth Crooks

Flasheart

IronHorse100 wrote:

Jong Tae-Se's tears at the national anthem

More like tears of joy as now his family will (maybe) be let out of the labour camp that they are being held hostage in to make sure he and the rest of the team don't defect :P

Flasheart

hopper1 wrote:

Negatives: It's still on TV...


Positives: It'll be over soon....

+10

IronHorse100

Cleat Eastwood wrote:

Negatives
Garth Crooks

+100000

Homer J

Flasheart wrote:

hopper1 wrote:

Negatives: It's still on TV...


Positives: It'll be over soon....

+10

No No No, empty roads when england play, get round the shops in half the time.

IronHorse100

Flasheart wrote:

IronHorse100 wrote:

Jong Tae-Se's tears at the national anthem

More like tears of joy as now his family will (maybe) be let out of the labour camp that they are being held hostage in to make sure he and the rest of the team don't defect :P

good point! Although I think he's one of the Japan based (born and brought up) players.

rapid_uphill

Robbie Earle had the right idea, sell all your tickets and fk off home.

sheepworryingbhoy

Positives: Rob Green, Rob Green, Rob Green

Wait, what was my sweepstake team again? :oops:

rick_chasey

Positives: It's the world cup. They're always good fun.


Negatives:

Mark Lawrenson

That constant, whining, buzzing drone of people moaning about the vuvuzelas.

TheStone

rapid_uphill wrote:

Robbie Earle had the right idea, sell all your tickets and fk off home.

very funny.

The world cup's got better the last couple of days.

Big negatives:
- vuvus
- ball
- negative football
- itv and bbc coverage (seems to have stepped back a couple of decades).

France are gone. I think Spain are in a lot of trouble.
Brazil/Port/Ivory group, not really started.

timb64

Positives-so-called smaller countries playing to their strengths as a team giving the favourites made up of overpaid self inflated primadonnas a run for their money.

Negatives- Robbie Savage on Five Live

Stewie Griffin

Positives - Its football I suppose.
Negatives - It aint Spurs 8)

Anonymous

This match is a positive. (Germany v serbia)

Proper crowd noises and an interesting situation!

Sirius631

Is that ball smooth? Anyone who has seen a golf ball knows that it's the dimples that give it its directional stability in flight.

bompington

They do drug testing at the world cup?

Cleat Eastwood

positives

The spanish ref

negatives

Kloses obviously premeditated violent tackles. hah ha

Sirius631

bompington wrote:

They do drug testing at the world cup?

Yes, but they've not caught any of the refs yet (regards Germany/Serbia)

nicensleazy

I will be so glad when its over!

Stewie Griffin

Sirius631 wrote:

Is that ball smooth? Anyone who has seen a golf ball knows that it's the dimples that give it its directional stability in flight.

Anyone who has seen me play knows that nothing gives a golf ball directional stability

torrens

The dimples on a golf ball cause turbulent flow in the boundary layer and hence a drag reduction innit. Nothing to do with stability but will travel further for a given amount of hittedness. Or something like that.

Sirius631

torrens wrote:

The dimples on a golf ball cause turbulent flow in the boundary layer and hence a drag reduction innit. Nothing to do with stability but will travel further for a given amount of hittedness. Or something like that.

But as the drag is reduced it is evened out across the surface, so there is less force in any one direction that will pull the ball off target, hence acuracy and thus predictability is increased.

trekhead

Negatives: no Ireland

Positives: France gettin fcuked over
England being sh1te
Spain getting whooped (some Spaniards owe me a lot of money)
Argentina looking good and Maradona looking like he`s boardering on
the edge of madness.

Cleat Eastwood

Sirius631 wrote:

torrens wrote:

The dimples on a golf ball cause turbulent flow in the boundary layer and hence a drag reduction innit. Nothing to do with stability but will travel further for a given amount of hittedness. Or something like that.

But as the drag is reduced it is evened out across the surface, so there is less force in any one direction that will pull the ball off target, hence acuracy and thus predictability is increased.

so what are we saying? That England would play better with a golf ball....yep I'd agree with that.

Sirius631

Negative - we have to put up with one more dire performance from England before they are out.

Positive - we only have to put up with one more dire performance from England before they are out.

desweller

Sirius631 wrote:

torrens wrote:

The dimples on a golf ball cause turbulent flow in the boundary layer and hence a drag reduction innit. Nothing to do with stability but will travel further for a given amount of hittedness. Or something like that.

But as the drag is reduced it is evened out across the surface, so there is less force in any one direction that will pull the ball off target, hence acuracy and thus predictability is increased.

Naw. The first poster is correct, dimples are there purely to reduce the pressure differential between the front and rear of the ball, allowing the ball to travel further for a given amout of energy.

In fact I would expect a dimpled ball to exaggerate the lateral effects of spin due to the increase in skin friction (think cricket ball swing).

bexley5200

ha ha ha ha ha what a load of old balls,ha ha ha ha( im australian)

Sirius631

DesWeller wrote:

Sirius631 wrote:

torrens wrote:

The dimples on a golf ball cause turbulent flow in the boundary layer and hence a drag reduction innit. Nothing to do with stability but will travel further for a given amount of hittedness. Or something like that.

But as the drag is reduced it is evened out across the surface, so there is less force in any one direction that will pull the ball off target, hence acuracy and thus predictability is increased.

Naw. The first poster is correct, dimples are there purely to reduce the pressure differential between the front and rear of the ball, allowing the ball to travel further for a given amout of energy.

In fact I would expect a dimpled ball to exaggerate the lateral effects of spin due to the increase in skin friction (think cricket ball swing).

Sorry, but you've just contradicted the first poster that you were meant to be agreeing with. If dimples increased friction I'll be on for selling my Zipp wheels. Anyway, we are getting a bit off topic.

desweller

The distance the ball travels is not dictated by skin friction but by the pressure difference between the front and rear of the ball (which translates to a net decelerating force).

I can't be arsed to write it out and do the drawings; fortunately someone else has done it already:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/q0215.shtml

jim453

nicensleazy wrote:

I will be so glad when its over!

Really? Why? are all your favourite television shows cancelled or disrupted due to the football?

For goodness sake, it only happens every four years, what is everyones problem. It's brilliant. Even if we are doing it the hard way. So what.

There is an on/off button on yer TV you know. It's beautiful outside, go ride your bike.

Colin Murray is a moron though.