"Bad cycle lane kills cyclist"
prj45
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Er, or perhaps it was the large lorry that ran him over?
Let's not count on the police or the media actually blaming the right thing a?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... o-tight.do
A cycle lane on a road where a father of three died under the wheels of a cement mixer has been condemned by police for being dangerously narrow.
Let's not count on the police or the media actually blaming the right thing a?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... o-tight.do
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Interesting quote from the policeman involved - 'This is not a cycle lane - this is a gutter'0
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And that shows why I generally ignore cycle lanes.
I don't know the road where it happened, but I imagine the truck tried to squeeze past the cyclist. Maybe if the cyclist was riding primary so that the truck could not have overtaken he'd still be here now.
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These cycle lanes suck you in, they often start wide and end up (on pinch points or bends) no wider than your handle bars. However, the death didn't occur because of the cycle lane, it occurred because of dangerous driving. The Evening Standard can't blame the cyclist, so it blames the cycle lane; it won't in a million years, consider that the driver might have responsibility!0
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I'm very familiar with this stretch of road. It's three lanes but it may as well be a race track, with people competing for pole position as they approach the area around Victoria station.0
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I the think that the headline on the original newspaper story is a little fairer as the lane was under spec, but that wasn't claimed as the cause of the accident.
What it does flag up in my mind is whether cycle lanes in wide roads cause me to assume that there is sufficient space. On obviously stupid lanes I ignore them and ride primary, but on wider roads I wonder if there's a false illusion of space that means that on an off day (e.g bit tired to pay full attention) do the white lanes draw me in to following them a bit sheep-like and thus become a kerb hugger without realising.0 -
I'm sure I've read reports where it has been shown that motorists tend to give cyclists LESS room when there's a cycle lane as it becomes like a territorial line... whereas motorists generally give cycles more room when there's no marked cycle lane...Earn Cashback @ Wiggle, CRC, Evans, AW Cycles, Alpine Bikes, ProBikeKit, Cycles UK :
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Firstly, this is terrible my thoughts are with the cyclists wife and three children.
Secondly, I don't see how or what role the cycle lane played in killing the cyclist.
I know the lane its narrow, its pointless. The point is that a cement mixer turned left and killed the cyclist. The focus should be on why the driver didn't or couldn't see the cyclist before it drove over him. And if the driver could see th cyclist, then why did the vehicle still manage to drive over him.
That lane, and most other cycle lanes need reviewing but lets not use it to mask other all the other aspects.Food Chain number = 4
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Repeated post.Food Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
Repeated postFood Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
Repeeat postFood Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
DonDaddyD wrote:Firstly, this is terrible my thoughts are with the cyclists wife and three children.
Secondly, I don't see how or what role the cycle lane played in killing the cyclist.
I know the lane its narrow, its pointless. The point is that a cement mixer turned left and killed the cyclist. The focus should be on why the driver didn't or couldn't see the cyclist before it drove over him. And if the driver could see th cyclist, then why did the vehicle still manage to drive over him.
That lane, and most other cycle lanes need reviewing but lets not use it to mask other all the other aspects.
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I agree with others, this should not preclude a serious investigation of the truck driver's driving but I can't help thinking that a big civil damages claim against the authorities for that ridiculous cycle lane might be helpful in stopping some of the stupidity that goes on with road layouts0
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well covered by the LCC already. using my video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFxKmMaM1DA0
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well covered by the LCC already. using my video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFxKmMaM1DA0
