BBC Bladdy Weather Service

prj45
prj45 Posts: 2,208
edited June 2010 in Commuting chat
So this evening before I left for home the next hour's forecast was saying light clouds but no indication of rain (in the forecast or on the satellite view) BUT IT WAS RAINING WHEN I GOT OUT THE DOOR!

How can it get the weather different from what's actually happening outside AT THE TIME?

Gah!

Got grit all over my shiny new bike which I spent an hour trying to get off when I got home, but my chain still sounds like a tank track!

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  • jonnyboy77
    jonnyboy77 Posts: 547
    I subscribed to the daily metcheck email at http://www.metcheck.com - so far its been pretty reliable, but weather forecasting is nothing more than glorified guesswork!

    Jon
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Weather forecasting is anything other than guesswork glorified or otherwise. What it does have is a high degree of uncertainty dependant on the nature of the forecast.

    For example, if a frontal system is forecast in 2 days, the forecast will probably say something like; heavy rain Wednesday followed by nice weather on Thursday. If the wind speed changes only a little, the delay to the front can easily mean that Wednesday is fine and Thursday is wet. Perception is that the forecast was 100% wrong but infact it was actually correct in all but timing. Obviously, that is the important bit but I find by sticking to the 3 day forecasts the forecasts are usually pretty close.

    The only forecasts worth a look though are those based on Met Office work (which the BBC ones are)- they are probably the best in the world. The alternative forecasters, dug out when the Met Office score a PR own goal by expecting dumb reporters to understand certainty, are glorified wavers of seaweed.

    Usually, hopefully, any Met Office based forecast you see should have a time indicator for when it was last updated so if it is wrong for the time you are out, hopefully you'll find it hadn't been updated since the morning!
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  • zrazzle
    zrazzle Posts: 79
    clouding over again today. Didn't bother bringing the waterproofs today again either, I think I actually refuse to bring waterproofs now, as my measly protest against our s88t english weather. hmmf.
  • jonnyboy77
    jonnyboy77 Posts: 547
    For more details on the guessing game, read this: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/science/creating/

    FWIW I have found Metcheck to be reliable, since it seems to be updated on a regular basis and allows for specific location checks/forecasts/guesses.

    I don't commute far enough to worry too much about the weather, if the sun is shining I ride in shorts & short sleeves, if its raining I ride in shorts & short sleeves (at this time of year).

    - Jon
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  • MonkeyMonster
    MonkeyMonster Posts: 4,629
    jonnyboy77 wrote:
    For more details on the guessing game, read this: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/science/creating/

    FWIW I have found Metcheck to be reliable, since it seems to be updated on a regular basis and allows for specific location checks/forecasts/guesses.

    I don't commute far enough to worry too much about the weather, if the sun is shining I ride in shorts & short sleeves, if its raining I ride in shorts & short sleeves (at this time of year).

    - Jon

    I've found metcheck quite busted for local region since last week - nothing displays...

    edit: normally very trustworthy and I use it all the time!
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  • TommyEss
    TommyEss Posts: 1,855
    Does it really matter what the website says - look out the window - are there big dark clouds on the horizon, and is the wind blowing them towards you or away?

    There's your answer.

    Open your eyes!
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  • MonkeyMonster
    MonkeyMonster Posts: 4,629
    TommyEss wrote:
    Does it really matter what the website says - look out the window - are there big dark clouds on the horizon, and is the wind blowing them towards you or away?

    There's your answer.

    Open your eyes!

    Hush there grumpy chops. I want to know what the weather *might* be like sunday... :lol:
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  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
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  • TommyEss
    TommyEss Posts: 1,855
    I'll make you one of those origami things we had as kids if you like - you know the ones, pick a colour, pick a number, blah blah blah...

    "UNSETTLED!!!"

    :lol:
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  • MonkeyMonster
    MonkeyMonster Posts: 4,629
    TommyEss wrote:
    I'll make you one of those origami things we had as kids if you like - you know the ones, pick a colour, pick a number, blah blah blah...

    "UNSETTLED!!!"

    :lol:

    that's just unleashed a scary trip down memory lane... :D but given I'm doing butt all at work and merely counting days now I shall stay a while.
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  • BentMikey
    BentMikey Posts: 4,895
    I thought Metcheck was run/owned by a convicted paedophile? I don't think it's a reliable service anyway, and I watch several weather services daily.

    Your best bet is to look at a rain radar, which will give snap shots of rain every half hour for the last 6 hours:

    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/radar/index.html

    Or look out the window.
  • nich
    nich Posts: 888
    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ pretty good but not really a forecast as such
  • TommyEss
    TommyEss Posts: 1,855
    BentMikey wrote:
    I thought Metcheck was run/owned by a convicted paedophile? I don't think it's a reliable service anyway, and I watch several weather services daily.

    Your best bet is to look at a rain radar, which will give snap shots of rain every half hour for the last 6 hours:

    http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/radar/index.html

    Or look out the window.

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  • spen666
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  • prj45
    prj45 Posts: 2,208
    Bloody hell, I start a thread on how the BBC weather can report it's not raining when it actually is raining, and we're discussing paedophiles and dissing scousers.

    I might get a weather stone though...
  • Cleat Eastwood
    Cleat Eastwood Posts: 7,508
    I always read the weather forecasts from ten years ago....it was better weather then.
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  • jonnyboy77
    jonnyboy77 Posts: 547
    BentMikey wrote:
    I thought Metcheck was run/owned by a convicted paedophile?

    I wasn't aware of this - is this a substantiated claim? Or a headline plucked from the Daily Mail?

    I've yet to find a weather site more useful than metcheck though, although as mentioned above it seems to be failing yesterday and today on local forecasts (no data).

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  • jonnyboy77
    jonnyboy77 Posts: 547
    ok seems to be confirmed ... http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/news/year ... ticle.html

    although this was at he end of 2008 ... so I don't know who runs metcheck now, I would assume not him?

    - Jon
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