Bolton: No Flags for you!

Bunneh

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/821 ... r_workers/

I'm gonna get a flag and strap it to my bike!

afx237vi

Check here in a few days when the real story actually emerges:

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/

westerburk

What planks, it’s a national flag, the flying of which is supported specifically under European and National law

“neutral” in order to treat all its customers “with respect and without discrimination”. Flying a flag doesn’t discriminate and supporting one team or another is not disrespectful either. National pride? Whatever next.

I agree that they should control what’s in their own vans and offices but not in a privately owned vehicle.
Left wing t its whatever next no more Scottish or eu flags on licence plates. This is a company in England isn’t it. Are welsh Scottish Irish people in the area really going to be disadvantaged by a council worker flying a flag

rick_chasey

westerburk wrote:

Left wing t its whatever next no more Scottish or eu flags on licence plates. This is a company in England isn’t it. Are welsh Scottish Irish people in the area really going to be disadvantaged by a council worker flying a flag

*sighs*. Banning flags has got nothing to do with being left wing. The right doesn't have a monopoly on flags you know...

daviesee

westerburk wrote:

What planks, it’s a national flag, the flying of which is supported specifically under European and National law

“neutral” in order to treat all its customers “with respect and without discrimination”. Flying a flag doesn’t discriminate and supporting one team or another is not disrespectful either. National pride? Whatever next.

I agree that they should control what’s in their own vans and offices but not in a privately owned vehicle.
Left wing t its whatever next no more Scottish or eu flags on licence plates. This is a company in England isn’t it. Are welsh Scottish Irish people in the area really going to be disadvantaged by a council worker flying a flag

As a Scot can I categoricaly state that we are not offended by English people flying the English flag.
Dig deeper and you will probably find that it has been instigated by an English person who is so desperate to be PC and afraid to offend anyone that they effectively ban everything. Or, the story is complete nonsense made up by reporters.

I challenge anyone to find someone that would be offended by this :roll:

Flasheart

daviesee wrote:

I challenge anyone to find someone that would be offended by this :roll:

k I'm on it

softlad

I don't see the problem - the flags will all be coming down after England's first game anyway..

rolf_f

westerburk wrote:

What planks, it’s a national flag, the flying of which is supported specifically under European and National law

Actually, it isn't a national flag

Aggieboy

Flasheart wrote:

daviesee wrote:

I challenge anyone to find someone that would be offended by this :roll:

k I'm on it

If you find anyone, send them to Downing St and tell'em to ask to speak to Dave.

pb21

afx237vi wrote:

Check here in a few days when the real story actually emerges:

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/

Good website!

Yorkshirecoal

A few officers in my force (Derbyshire) were stopping vehicles with flags on and asking the driver to remove them as they where comiting an offence of public order as they could cause harassment, alarm and distress to others. Needless to say they all got a b0llocking and our cheif had to put a force order out saying not to do it. At time's we dont help ourselves. :oops:

Lancslad

They flippin already cluttering up the roads with broken ones and where people have wound their windows down and forgot about the flags. Why the heck do they need two on a vehicle anyway? will one not suffice?

Oh and all those pollitically correct people should be lined up and shot.

verloren

I'm currently enjoying the internet meme that basically says "If you suffer from ED please fly a white flag with a red cross from your car to show solidarity with your fellow sufferers".

daviesee

Rolf F wrote:

westerburk wrote:

What planks, it’s a national flag, the flying of which is supported specifically under European and National law

Actually, it isn't a national flag

Huh?

England is a country and the St. George cross is it's flag.
Therefore a national flag.

The United Kingdom is a political union between the various countries similar to how the EU would appear to want to be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom

Consider that hook, line and sinker

rolf_f

daviesee wrote:

Consider that hook, line and sinker

Lol! Still, I trust to my passport rather than Wikipedia. My nationality is British and my national flag is that of the Union (not letting the Scots and Welsh deprive me of my claim to part ownership of all those beautiful mountains!)

As for flags on cars - they should be banned but for reasons of taste more than anything else!

Anonymous

The flags are just a bit of daft fun Its part of what makes Britain Great.

Bunneh

The council has changed its mind - the staff are allowed flags Talk about U-turn!

Saw a car yesterday with 4 flags on it, one in each window - now that's plastic patriotism!

rf6

Wouldn't banning someone from flying a flag be racist? It's denying an expression of patriotism. It's like banning the kilt. Utterly ridiculous

Whoever made that decision should have their nose whacked with a rolled up newspaper with a stern "NO", in a Barbara Woodhouse style. :twisted:

Crapaud

rf6 wrote:

Wouldn't banning someone from flying a flag be racist? It's denying an expression of patriotism. It's like banning the kilt. Utterly ridiculous ...

As far as I'm aware, it's still illegal to wear a kilt. It's just not enforced.

pabloweaver

Ingerlund flags....

the "new" Christmas lights on houses....

unCivilServant

Bunneh wrote:

Saw a car yesterday with 4 flags on it, one in each window - now that's plastic patriotism!

Unless they were very small flags, I'd wonder about the driver's ability to see out properly.

How about just painting the roof with the St. George Cross? Won't litter or poke anyone's eye out--and overbearing employers probably wouldn't even notice it was there

shouldbeinbed

Andrew Lansley the health secretary has received a report stating that the average size of the british male member has shrunk drastically. As a quick easy to count straw poll he's asked that any man with a penis of less than 3 inches display a white flag with a red cross on their car throughout the month of July.

Bunneh

I don't have a car, nor do I have any flags - therefore my penis is huge!

Seanos

Yorkshirecoal wrote:

A few officers in my force (Derbyshire) were stopping vehicles with flags on and asking the driver to remove them as they where comiting an offence of public order as they could cause harassment, alarm and distress to others. Needless to say they all got a b0llocking and our cheif had to put a force order out saying not to do it. At time's we dont help ourselves. :oops:

This sounds like the biggest piece of made up BS I've ever come across. Any proof that this actually occurred in real life and not in the wild imaginings of some 'PC gone mad' nutjob?

Yorkshirecoal

Seanos wrote:

Yorkshirecoal wrote:

A few officers in my force (Derbyshire) were stopping vehicles with flags on and asking the driver to remove them as they where comiting an offence of public order as they could cause harassment, alarm and distress to others. Needless to say they all got a b0llocking and our cheif had to put a force order out saying not to do it. At time's we dont help ourselves. :oops:

This sounds like the biggest piece of made up BS I've ever come across. Any proof that this actually occurred in real life and not in the wild imaginings of some 'PC gone mad' nutjob?

Here is the extract from out force new's announcements:

Rumours are circulating in the county that police officers are taking St George flags from people's cars, telling them they cannot display the flags outside their homes or wear England shirts outside of the World Cup period in case offence is caused.

Officers and staff should make it clear when dealing with members of the public that this is not the case.

I'll await your apology. :evil:

Aggieboy

Yorkshirecoal wrote:

Seanos wrote:

Yorkshirecoal wrote:

A few officers in my force (Derbyshire) were stopping vehicles with flags on and asking the driver to remove them as they where comiting an offence of public order as they could cause harassment, alarm and distress to others. Needless to say they all got a b0llocking and our cheif had to put a force order out saying not to do it. At time's we dont help ourselves. :oops:

This sounds like the biggest piece of made up BS I've ever come across. Any proof that this actually occurred in real life and not in the wild imaginings of some 'PC gone mad' nutjob?

Here is the extract from out force new's announcements:

Rumours are circulating in the county that police officers are taking St George flags from people's cars, telling them they cannot display the flags outside their homes or wear England shirts outside of the World Cup period in case offence is caused.

Officers and staff should make it clear when dealing with members of the public that this is not the case.

I'll await your apology. :evil:

I don't think an apology is due, reading that. It only says that 'rumours are circulating' regarding police action and that officers and staff should make it clear that this is not the case. Hardly evidence that it happened, is it?

Seanos

Yorkshirecoal wrote:

Here is the extract from out force new's announcements:

Rumours are circulating in the county that police officers are taking St George flags from people's cars, telling them they cannot display the flags outside their homes or wear England shirts outside of the World Cup period in case offence is caused.

Officers and staff should make it clear when dealing with members of the public that this is not the case.

I'll await your apology. :evil:

I'll be happy to apologise, when you actually provide some evidence that it happened. In the meantime you might like to apologise for either making stuff up or spreading stupid stories without checking to see if they were correct.

I hope you aren't a copper because you don't seem to have any clue about what constitutes proof. :roll:

Bunneh

Only 'rumour' I can find at this moment is one from a BNP blog. I'm sure there's others but I'm tired and cba searching further.

http://martynfindley.blogspot.com/2010/ ... eking.html

Incidently a simple Google 'police removing flags' turned it up.

Aggieboy

Yorkshirecoal - "Hello,come in rumour control, come in. Urgent help needed. Over"

Ollieda

Rolf F wrote:

daviesee wrote:

Consider that hook, line and sinker

Lol! Still, I trust to my passport rather than Wikipedia. My nationality is British and my national flag is that of the Union (not letting the Scots and Welsh deprive me of my claim to part ownership of all those beautiful mountains!)

As for flags on cars - they should be banned but for reasons of taste more than anything else!

He's right actually, the Union Jack is the national flag hence it should always be flown in a primary posistion when flown alongside the St. George's Cross. Oh and if your thinking of replying saying "It's only a union JACK when on a ship, otherwise it's a union FLAG" thats an absolute pile of tosh and the official name of the flag has been classed as Union Jack since it was declared the national flag in 1908. The only time it should be reffered to as the Union Flag is by members of the Royal or Merchant Navy when it is held on a ship and not upon the jackstaff in order to avoid confusion with the flag on the jackstaff at the time which would be refered to as the jack.

Back to the OP, as for wether they are allowed to stipulate whats on a private car, as the car is being used for work use and they are being paid for it then I would say its fair enough to say they can or can't have certain things on it.

That doesn't mean i think its a good decision. It's stupid, I would like to see who it actually offends! Should the workers all be forced to get a tan and speak with a slightly foreign accent in order not to offend these people as well, heaven knows how offended they might be by an English accent. I think this whole can't fly the St. George's cross thing has got massively out of hand having stemed from some rumor about police officers stopping it, something the police have denied happening (not that that happens too often) and stated that it should not happen. But people then get scared and believe the hype.

daviesee

Okay.
No-one likes to use Wikipedia as a reference guide.

How about our own government's website?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentc ... G_10012518

Quote "The Union Flag, or 'Union Jack', is the national flag of the United Kingdom and is so called because it embodies the emblems of the three countries united under one Sovereign - the kingdoms of England and Wales, of Scotland and of Ireland (although since 1921 only Northern Ireland, rather than the whole of Ireland, has been part of the United Kingdom).

Note:- 3 separate Countries, 1 Sovereign Union.