Noticeable differences in changing bike

UK2004
UK2004 Posts: 137
edited June 2010 in MTB buying advice
If I were to change from a Rock Lobster tig team sl with xt groupset and reba team fork to a frame like a cove stiffee with pike fork and some decent components how much would it affect the ride in terms of descending, asecending, ability to take more punishment bigger drops etc?

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  • peter413
    peter413 Posts: 4,909
    It depends if it fits you well but you would probably notice a lot more confidence because it is slacker and the longer travel would also help :wink:
  • Pudseyp
    Pudseyp Posts: 3,514
    Agree with the above, if your going to use it mainly for XC work then the RL is great, the Stiffee comes into it's own on trail centres where the ground is a bit more burly and the bike is taking bigger hits. My mate has the same setup, Cove with Pikes, great on a trail centre but a bit of a heavy pig for light XC...I guess the air Pikes would be better for an allrounder
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  • peter413
    peter413 Posts: 4,909
    Actually, I would look at Rev's, not Pikes unless you are doing some hardcore stuff like proper DH and massive jumps/drops
  • UK2004
    UK2004 Posts: 137
    Would the right build be able to keep the cove down to 26lbs possibly? Anyone here ride a stiffee after having a more xc biased frame? Also what is the difference between the pikes and revelations, are the pikes built for more abuse?
  • rudedog
    rudedog Posts: 523
    Yes the Pikes are more robust as is reflected in their heavier weight.

    I think you'd struggle to get a Stiffee + Pikes down to 26lbs and would probably have to really compromise on the strength of the other components to achieve this.
  • UK2004
    UK2004 Posts: 137
    How strong are XTR bits, I imagine that groupset would help to reduce weight but I don't know if the light weight compromises strenth. Also I have noticed a lot of freeride and all mountain riders have 2.2 or even 2.35 inch tyres, does the extra width help with landing jumps, I'm probably making a silly assumption but thought the extra width would help with stability landing jumps but I assume it slows the bike down a bit having a wider tyre? Would the Cove be ok for say 20 mile singletrack trips or would it be a tiring ride?
  • Pudseyp
    Pudseyp Posts: 3,514
    A sub 26llb stiffee is near impossible without chucking thousands at any long travel HT frame will be great on decents but a struggle on long climbs...you need to ask yourself if you really need that much travel ?? anyway why a Cove...sure they look sweet but they are expensive for the quality you get....why not go for a On One 456 ? as the name suggest you can run a 4,5 or 6 inch travel fork so you have some flexibility..plus you can get the new Carbon frame for less than a Stiffee...
    Tomac Synper 140 Giant XTC Alliance 1
    If the world was flat, I wouldn't be riding !
  • rudedog
    rudedog Posts: 523
    If you want a lightweight long travel hard tail then you should have a look at the Ragley mmmbop - its only 3.7lbs and pretty cheap at £275 from CRC.

    Its optimised for 130-150mm forks
  • UK2004
    UK2004 Posts: 137
    I've noticed people talka lot of the geometry of frames being optimised for certain riding styles, can someone briefly explain?! Also the Santa Cruz Chameleon I see it spoken of as a multi purpose bike and suitable for longer travel forks and a strong bike, is it very similar to the Cove Stiffee or are they differeng frames again?
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    XC racers may want a longer, lower bike for greater efficiency and steeper headangles for faster steeriing.

    Your gravity merchant may want to be a bit more upright: also slacker head angles add to stabilty, and make more sense on steep downhill sections.

    Your average rider may want something in the middle.