British RR Champs - No Wiggo...

pedro118118
pedro118118 Posts: 1,102
edited June 2010 in Pro race
Looks like Wiggins has opted out, in favour of TdF recon.
Shame really.
Surely he could make room in his schedule - he only lives just up the road doesn't he?!

That said, plenty of other big names likely to be making the effort.
Given the compeition and strength in numbers of the domestic teams, looks like an uphill battle for Cavendish though.
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  • Philip S
    Philip S Posts: 398
    What's the chance of him winning, though, given who else is in the field?
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    When is the National TT championships? Is he going to defend his title?

    Can understand why he wouldn't bother with the Road Race, but do worry that he has banked so much on the tour this year, one crash like in the Giro and his whole season will be ruined (Giro stage win excepted).
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Philip S wrote:
    What's the chance of him winning, though, given who else is in the field?
    Given he's got a big team, that he's aiming to be in the form of his life and wants to be a grand tour contender, if he can't obliterate the field, who can?
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,909
    Kléber wrote:
    Philip S wrote:
    What's the chance of him winning, though, given who else is in the field?
    Given he's got a big team, that he's aiming to be in the form of his life and wants to be a grand tour contender, if he can't obliterate the field, who can?

    +1

    he has a few British lads in there to support him or vice versa..

    downing thomas et al.... Who is Millar going to have?
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  • Philip S
    Philip S Posts: 398
    Kléber wrote:
    Philip S wrote:
    What's the chance of him winning, though, given who else is in the field?
    Given he's got a big team, that he's aiming to be in the form of his life and wants to be a grand tour contender, if he can't obliterate the field, who can?

    I don't know the answer to this: how many non-TT, single day races has Wiggins ever won? He's unlikely to win a sprint finish, so presume he has to go for a break, but he'll be marked by all and sundry.
  • beaumont trophy last year.

    broke away and did 'a cancellara' for the last hour or so. he was marked but nobody could follow him.

    as by far the best british cyclist atm he could detroy the field IMO.
  • Philip S wrote:
    What's the chance of him winning, though, given who else is in the field?

    If he rides to win, nearly 100%, as he's ridden everyone on the domestic scene off his wheel on a few occasions. He might just toss it off again like last year however if he's sticking to a strict plan for TDF preparation.

    Also, doing a favour or taking a bung might also happen. Funny game cycling, the strongest rarely wins!
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  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    He could win but I think destroy the field is putting it a little bit strong when you look at riders like Hammond, Millar, Froome and more than a few others. Remember there isn't meant to be team tactics so even if the Sky boys did help him out they couldn't make it too obvious.

    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    He could win but I think destroy the field is putting it a little bit strong when you look at riders like Hammond, Millar, Froome and more than a few others. Remember there isn't meant to be team tactics so even if the Sky boys did help him out they couldn't make it too obvious.

    Why isn't there meant to be team tactics? It's a bike race!
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  • jp1985
    jp1985 Posts: 434
    Great news that Jonny Bellis will be riding

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/isle_of_man/10270349.stm
  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    Wow! What a great recovery from Jonny. Wouldn't that be a touch if he could pull it off...
  • pomtarr
    pomtarr Posts: 318
    House for the double i reckon....
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    It would be good if he rides and wins as it will give the jersey more exposure given he is the most high profile British rider other than Cavendish.
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  • camerone
    camerone Posts: 1,232
    i imagine sky want this jersey, whether they choose wiggins to go for it or someone else. it will be a real screw up if they dont win i think..
    so House again or dean downing to win?
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Remember there isn't meant to be team tactics so even if the Sky boys did help him out they couldn't make it too obvious.


    ? :roll:
  • ju5t1n
    ju5t1n Posts: 2,028
    I think if you've got a team you can use them - no rules to say you can't
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Exactly. Indeed national championships are often very much dominated by the teams. Eg the Dutch championships sees Rabobank vs Skill vs Vacansoleil, the same is true for the French championships etc, the game is to ensure a rider from your team wins no matter what. The British champs should see Rapha against Sky and Endura.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    I think there was some confusion with riders riding for their trade teams in the world championships. The national championships are another matter.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    What's the course like? Think it needs to be quite hard for Wiggy to get a win. Otherwise it's gonna come down to a sprint and then surely it has to be Cavendish?
  • Hibbs
    Hibbs Posts: 291
    inseine wrote:
    I think there was some confusion with riders riding for their trade teams in the world championships. The national championships are another matter.

    On the Worlds, funnily enough I was thinking that last night. Given the Sky connection, could we see a few GB boys riding for EBH (who should be in form given his season is only just starting again) instead of Cav? Gets Sky the jersey for 2011.

    Anyway, on topic, the Nationals will surely be dominated by Sky, but I think this might give Cav and Millar a better chance as they can just follow wheels, with the onus being on Sky. I expect Rapha to try the same as last year - get a rider in an early break and make others (Sky) do the chasing.

    How do Millar and Cav get on? Any chance of a cosy arrangement between them two? I'd be surprised if Bellis didn't try and help Cav while he works his way back to fitness (great to see him back, BTW).
  • pedro118118
    pedro118118 Posts: 1,102
    Sky should have enough, even if Wiggins doesn't ride. If he does ride, it creates more many more options for them, with Wiggo as super-domestique, if he is marked out of it. The route is quite tough - a 7.5km circuit out in the Lancs hills with plenty of climbing. That may rule out Cav.
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    ju5t1n wrote:
    I think if you've got a team you can use them - no rules to say you can't[/quot

    I read elsewhere that it was not the done thing but looks like that was wrong.

    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • pedro118118
    pedro118118 Posts: 1,102
    In terms of numbers/strength in depth, it looks like the main players will be Sky, Rapha Condor Sharp, Endura and perhaps Motorpoint and Cervelo. Add into that the individual quality of the likes of Millar, Cav, Blyth etc, should make for a good race.

    I reckon the route is tailor made for Russ Downing.

    I've read somewhere that Jonny Bellis is using as a milestone in his recovery programme and doesn't expect to finish. Great to see him back on his bike nonetheless.
  • thamacdaddy
    thamacdaddy Posts: 590
    Hibbs wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    I think there was some confusion with riders riding for their trade teams in the world championships. The national championships are another matter.

    On the Worlds, funnily enough I was thinking that last night. Given the Sky connection, could we see a few GB boys riding for EBH (who should be in form given his season is only just starting again) instead of Cav? Gets Sky the jersey for 2011.

    Interesting for sure, then there is another angle, what better way to lure cav if that is what they want than help him win the worlds, if he doesn't get support of HTC of course ;) Everyone know's its one of his targets, I can imagine how annoyed he will be if the Team Sky brits help EBH win. Be a charlie wegalius 2005 all over again but worse.
  • Tom Butcher
    Tom Butcher Posts: 3,830
    I'd be pretty certain that the GB team will be riding for a GB rider at the worlds - the Wegelius/Southam incident was a bit of a turning point and I can't see that happening again.

    Apart from anything else wasn't Herety sacked (or at least forced out) after that - so politically it would be very difficult for Brailsford and/or whoever had charge of the team.

    it's a hard life if you don't weaken.
  • pedro118118
    pedro118118 Posts: 1,102
    Brits riding with other British team mates to bring a national jersey in to the team is one thing - it maybe goes against the grain and puts smaller teams/individual riders at a disadvantage, but is to be expected.

    For riders representing their Country to side with other nations, against express team orders (and to the detiment of other British riders) is something else completely. TREASON!!!
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    There is a simple way for Mr Cavendish to make sure he gets support. It involves opening your wallet. I remain unconvinced this years worlds are for him.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    iainf72 wrote:
    . I remain unconvinced this years worlds are for him.


    This.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,573
    Brits riding with other British team mates to bring a national jersey in to the team is one thing - it maybe goes against the grain and puts smaller teams/individual riders at a disadvantage, but is to be expected.

    For riders representing their Country to side with other nations, against express team orders (and to the detiment of other British riders) is something else completely. TREASON!!!

    It's only a bike race.

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