Daily Mail might have a point this time

saymush
saymush Posts: 80
edited June 2010 in The bottom bracket
The £18,000 council job you can't apply for if you are white
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 10:25 AM on 2nd June 2010
Comments (196) Add to My Stories A council has been accused of discrimination after white people were barred from applying for two £18,000-a-year jobs.
Bristol City has created the management training posts for graduates in an effort to recruit more minority employees.
As a result the council will only accept applications from ethnic minorities for the two-year placements.

But this has prompted criticism from white graduates struggling to find work.
Controversial: Bristol City Council has attracted criticism from white jobseekers who claim the management trainee posts are 'totally racist'

One jobseeker, who did not wish to be named, described the posts as 'totally racist'.
He said: 'I am a tolerant white person who has lived in Bristol for 27 years.
'I am searching for a job and stumbled across a job advertisement on Bristol City Council's website that I see as totally racist.
'I feel the job would be an excellent opportunity for me to make use of the skills and qualifications that I have acquired but, being white, I am excluded.
'Equal opportunities means giving everyone an equal chance to succeed rather than discriminating against people because of the colour of their skin.'
The two jobs are described on BCC's website as 'open to black and minority ethnic graduates' only, with applications closing on June 11.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0phUzZGDU


Why is a public body creating jobs at all at this time? and if the purpose is to recruit more ethnic minorities why do it unless there is a need?
Crazy time eh

Said

Comments

  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    If the story is as the Daily Mail represents it, then I hope that anyone living in that area will take some sort of action against racist discrimination.

    This surely has to be illegal.

    Is there a job application link for this? I'd like to see the application package with my own little eyes (and I don't have time now, I'm off to work).
  • saymush
    saymush Posts: 80
    Its not illegal under race relations act but one has to question the quality of decison making at a council that spends ratepayers money to meet unnecescarry self imposed objectives over the delivery of value for money services.


    If my money was being spent in that way i wouldnt mind if A,every other service ran properly and all public Amenities were free at the point of use. and B, my tax was £10per year.
  • Westerberg
    Westerberg Posts: 652
    saymush, you strikingly resemble a long lamented poster on these boards by the name of markwalker. I don't suppose you know him?
  • Heckler1974
    Heckler1974 Posts: 479
    Oh boy, here we go again........ :roll:
  • The post should go to the right person who can do the job...I could'nt give a fly'in f**k weather the person white/black/yellow/pink/green/blue/purple/stripped/spotted/short/fat/skinny...just give it to the right person who can do it FFS

    "O" and sack the 2hat responable for the advert.....f**k'in dip-stik
  • saymush
    saymush Posts: 80
    The post should go to the right person who can do the job...I could'nt give a fly'in f**k weather the person white/black/yellow/pink/green/blue/purple/stripped/spotted/short/fat/skinny...just give it to the right person who can do it FFS

    "O" and sack the 2hat responable for the advert.....f**k'in dip-stik


    More worrying is that 2 jobs have been created that didnt need to be created. Profligate waste if ever there was. right on lib dem council of course
  • Westerberg
    Westerberg Posts: 652
    saymush wrote:
    The post should go to the right person who can do the job...I could'nt give a fly'in f**k weather the person white/black/yellow/pink/green/blue/purple/stripped/spotted/short/fat/skinny...just give it to the right person who can do it FFS

    "O" and sack the 2hat responable for the advert.....f**k'in dip-stik


    More worrying is that 2 jobs have been created that didnt need to be created. Profligate waste if ever there was. right on lib dem council of course
    oh mark, couldn't you resist for a few more days to make your latest sock puppet seem a little more credible?
  • saymush
    saymush Posts: 80
    now now westerberg, have you anything to add about the subject? Its very flattering that you want to talk about me all the time but really im never going to want you as my bit ch, let it go.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Westerberg wrote:
    saymush wrote:
    The post should go to the right person who can do the job...I could'nt give a fly'in f**k weather the person white/black/yellow/pink/green/blue/purple/stripped/spotted/short/fat/skinny...just give it to the right person who can do it FFS

    "O" and sack the 2hat responable for the advert.....f**k'in dip-stik


    More worrying is that 2 jobs have been created that didnt need to be created. Profligate waste if ever there was. right on lib dem council of course
    oh mark, couldn't you resist for a few more days to make your latest sock puppet seem a little more credible?

    There really is a bit of "will they, won't they ?" between these two, enthralling. :D
  • saymush
    saymush Posts: 80
    dmclite wrote:
    Westerberg wrote:
    saymush wrote:
    The post should go to the right person who can do the job...I could'nt give a fly'in f**k weather the person white/black/yellow/pink/green/blue/purple/stripped/spotted/short/fat/skinny...just give it to the right person who can do it FFS

    "O" and sack the 2hat responable for the advert.....f**k'in dip-stik


    More worrying is that 2 jobs have been created that didnt need to be created. Profligate waste if ever there was. right on lib dem council of course
    oh mark, couldn't you resist for a few more days to make your latest sock puppet seem a little more credible?

    There really is a bit of "will they, won't they ?" between these two, enthralling. :D


    Id bet on no. Unless i have a few drinks and fancy some young unsullied flesh
  • Heckler1974
    Heckler1974 Posts: 479
    A kind of Gold Blend advert meets This is England.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    A kind of Gold Blend advert meets This is England.

    Exactly. "Just good friends", only set in Burnley.
  • Westerberg
    Westerberg Posts: 652
    please to be making your most humblest intimate acquaintance Mr Said, oh strange Israeli with Arab name. I pledge 2 of my finest camels for one night of passion.
  • I'm not surprised if the jobs went to a terrorist immigrant who was released early, caused the local house prices to have dropped and gave everyone cancer.

    The jobs were also probably for installing and maintaining speed cameras to punish drivers in our cars...OUR CARS FFS!
    What wheels...? Wheelsmith.co.uk!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Its all Wiggles fault.
  • tebbit
    tebbit Posts: 604
    Do I get free haribo?
  • saymush
    saymush Posts: 80
    Westerberg wrote:
    please to be making your most humblest intimate acquaintance Mr Said, oh strange Israeli with Arab name. I pledge 2 of my finest camels for one night of passion.

    isnt that kind of characaturing considered errr a little non pc these days?
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    saymush wrote:
    The post should go to the right person who can do the job...I could'nt give a fly'in f**k weather the person white/black/yellow/pink/green/blue/purple/stripped/spotted/short/fat/skinny...just give it to the right person who can do it FFS

    "O" and sack the 2hat responable for the advert.....f**k'in dip-stik

    More worrying is that 2 jobs have been created that didnt need to be created. Profligate waste if ever there was. right on lib dem council of course

    Graduate trainee programmes in councils is really common, I'd be surprised if there isn't a single county council in the land which doesn't operate such a scheme, so I don't think this is a specially created job.

    What I find surprising is that it is possibly aimed at black and other ethnic minority candidates. I've had a look at their website, and the job is advertised here:

    http://jobs.bristol.gov.uk/JobDetails.a ... ntweeks=-1

    What I find totally offensive about this is the implication that ethnic minorities MUST have been victims. A middle-class Asian who gets into a decent school probably has a better start in life than a white kid from a shitty housing estate who gets sent to the local sink school.

    The whole idea is insulting to people whatever their ethnicity, really.
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    Look at the ads for yourselves.

    "Open to Black and minority ethnic graduates", does NOT say or mean only.

    Whereas further down there is another ad;

    "Health at Work Co-ordinator
    BG12: £31,754 - £34,549
    Full time, fixed term for 1 year
    Based at the Council House
    Ref: 22137
    Please note this post is only open to employees of Bristol City Council"

    Can you see the difference? One says it would be nice if we could recruit a person from a minority as we dont reflect the diversity of our Community appropriately. The other is restrictive insofar as who can apply.

    I work for an LA in London and we word our ads slightly differently. "We particularly welcome applications from blah blah as they are under represented in this department". I cant actually check it word for word as the only vacancy we have advertised has no request in it.

    Have a lovely day and stop getting your knickers in a twist over something that isnt there.
  • saymush
    saymush Posts: 80
    Look at the ads for yourselves.

    "Open to Black and minority ethnic graduates", does NOT say or mean only.

    Whereas further down there is another ad;

    "Health at Work Co-ordinator
    BG12: £31,754 - £34,549
    Full time, fixed term for 1 year
    Based at the Council House
    Ref: 22137
    Please note this post is only open to employees of Bristol City Council"

    Can you see the difference? One says it would be nice if we could recruit a person from a minority as we dont reflect the diversity of our Community appropriately. The other is restrictive insofar as who can apply.

    I work for an LA in London and we word our ads slightly differently. "We particularly welcome applications from blah blah as they are under represented in this department". I cant actually check it word for word as the only vacancy we have advertised has no request in it.

    Have a lovely day and stop getting your knickers in a twist over something that isnt there.

    but it is there. Unless elsewhere the council publishes that jobs oare not for black and minority ethnic graduates unless otherwise stated.

    The council acknowledge that the reason the vaccancies have been created is specifically to recruit black or ethnic minority applicants. I it this open intent that gets peoples knickers in a twist not some unfortunate wording.
  • Westerberg
    Westerberg Posts: 652
    saymush wrote:
    Westerberg wrote:
    please to be making your most humblest intimate acquaintance Mr Said, oh strange Israeli with Arab name. I pledge 2 of my finest camels for one night of passion.

    isnt that kind of characaturing considered errr a little non pc these days?
    WTF is "characaturing"?
  • Westerberg
    Westerberg Posts: 652
    come on Mark, type faster. I can see you're online.....
  • Porgy
    Porgy Posts: 4,525
    People getting all worked up about nothing :lol:


    The Daily Mail has worked it's peculiar magic once again.
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    Look at the ads for yourselves.

    "Open to Black and minority ethnic graduates", does NOT say or mean only.

    Whereas further down there is another ad;

    "Health at Work Co-ordinator
    BG12: £31,754 - £34,549
    Full time, fixed term for 1 year
    Based at the Council House
    Ref: 22137
    Please note this post is only open to employees of Bristol City Council"

    Can you see the difference? One says it would be nice if we could recruit a person from a minority as we dont reflect the diversity of our Community appropriately. The other is restrictive insofar as who can apply.

    I work for an LA in London and we word our ads slightly differently. "We particularly welcome applications from blah blah as they are under represented in this department". I cant actually check it word for word as the only vacancy we have advertised has no request in it.

    Have a lovely day and stop getting your knickers in a twist over something that isnt there.
    :oops: :oops: :oops:

    Whoops, I didn't believe the Mail article, but then I read the advert, and I misread the bit at the bottom. Where it says that it complies with the race relations act, I thought it was one of those ads which says that it was exempted by the race relations act. My excuse is that I was just killing 5 minutes before going to work and I read that advert very quickly. :roll:

    So if they need to say that this position is open to black and ethnic minority candidates, does that mean that Bristol CC discriminates against them elsewhere? :idea:
  • tebbit
    tebbit Posts: 604
    Yes of course they do, like that day in London were a load of people play chase the Kenyan :D
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    iainf72 wrote:

    Bloody hell, what are you doing in here? Get lost on the way to Pro Race? :wink: