Tubs vs. Clinher - who has made the change?
bristolpete
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No so much a tub vs. clincher thread again, but more of a who has made the change on not regretted it.
As ever we all know that the issue with tubs could be flatting 50 miles out. I am sorely tempted to move to tubs as I am told face to face that the ride quality and of course weight is much better.
Options such as sealant are available etc so has anyone moved across, flatted a tub and simply sorted it and moved on. I have no desire to carry a spare tub to be honest but a small thing of goo sounds ideal.
Thanks.
As ever we all know that the issue with tubs could be flatting 50 miles out. I am sorely tempted to move to tubs as I am told face to face that the ride quality and of course weight is much better.
Options such as sealant are available etc so has anyone moved across, flatted a tub and simply sorted it and moved on. I have no desire to carry a spare tub to be honest but a small thing of goo sounds ideal.
Thanks.
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I have both, but have so far contiued to use clinchers on the road, with the tubs for racing.
I haven't got any sealant 'goo', just spare tubs (expensive option)...
From what I've read, if you use the 'goo' and it doeasn't seal, you can't get it repaired, either.
I think I would use tubs all the time, if changing a flat was less of a faff!Start with a budget, finish with a mortgage!0 -
I really don't see the point in them unless you're riding at an elite level in races where you can get wheel changes when you flat.
Given the quality of clincher tyres you can buy (Vittoria 320tpi Corsa/Pavé), to me, tubs would probably end up being an expensive pain the arse.
As always with theser things, it's your choice in the end. Personally, given my riding preferences, the type of riding i do and lack of spare cash i'd stick to clinchers.0 -
I run both and I'm like Hopper, I race on tubs and train on clinchers. Mind you I have had the odd ride out on the tubs and I'm still alive! The feel and ride quality £ for £ is a big draw for me towards tubs and also the fact that if I do flat on tubs I won't ruin my expensive carbon rims. No flats as of yet so I can't comment on that aspect and doesn't that say enough about durability.Norfolk, who nicked all the hills?
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Pete, I think it depends on your riding. What will you mainly use them for. OK, its a pian carrying a spare tub, but the ride quality is better and you can if you wish, use highrer pressure in your tyres.
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Hi sorry to butt in on this but As a fairly in experienced "roadie" but experienced xc'er I find this post interesting . IMHO for XC these days tubeless is pretty much a no brainer having been running them on my trek for years they are light, less prone to puncture (sealent will often repair puncture without you even knowing) and I think easier to repair if you a tubeless repair kit in the field. so I guess I must be missing something with road tubs ? As they don't seem to offer the same benefits ? I would appreciate some education ! Thanks neil0
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Hi sorry to butt in on this but As a fairly in experienced "roadie" but experienced xc'er I find this post interesting . IMHO for XC these days tubeless is pretty much a no brainer having been running them on my trek for years they are light, less prone to puncture (sealent will often repair puncture without you even knowing) and I think easier to repair if you a tubeless repair kit in the field. so I guess I must be missing something with road tubs ? As they don't seem to offer the same benefits ? I would appreciate some education ! Thanks neil0
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nicensleazy wrote:Pete, I think it depends on your riding. What will you mainly use them for. OK, its a pian carrying a spare tub, but the ride quality is better and you can if you wish, use highrer pressure in your tyres.
What are you thinking about ?
Looking at Zipp 303. Ride wise same as at the moment, 3 x 35 miles and 1 x 70 miler per week with some other rides thrown in through the summer. I really dont know if tubs are the way for me as the whole puncture thing stresses me!0 -
Gunny Bedford wrote:Hi sorry to butt in on this but As a fairly in experienced "roadie" but experienced xc'er I find this post interesting . IMHO for XC these days tubeless is pretty much a no brainer having been running them on my trek for years they are light, less prone to puncture (sealent will often repair puncture without you even knowing) and I think easier to repair if you a tubeless repair kit in the field. so I guess I must be missing something with road tubs ? As they don't seem to offer the same benefits ? I would appreciate some education ! Thanks neil
I think they do offer the same benefits, but the downside is flatting 50 odd miles out with no one to call etc. XC and Cross often have kit in the car, but personally I dont want to carry the kitchen sink in my back pocket.0 -
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This is the bit I don't understand about repair ?? My repair kit consists of : x1 inner tube if puncture is bad and one small tubeless repair kit size of normal tube kit that can repair a puncture in the tire without taking it off the wheel. So that is no more than most people carry on a roadbike ? Am I to take it you can't stick a inner tube on a tubeless road wheel To get you home ? And the tubeless repair kits are no good for road wheels ??0
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Tubular (tubs) and Tubeless are completely different when it comes to repair and construction.0
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Gunny Bedford wrote:Hi sorry to butt in on this but As a fairly in experienced "roadie" but experienced xc'er I find this post interesting . IMHO for XC these days tubeless is pretty much a no brainer having been running them on my trek for years they are light, less prone to puncture (sealent will often repair puncture without you even knowing) and I think easier to repair if you a tubeless repair kit in the field. so I guess I must be missing something with road tubs ? As they don't seem to offer the same benefits ? I would appreciate some education ! Thanks neil
Tubeless is very different from tubular...
Tubeless is relatively new in road riding and early adopters seem to be very much enjoying them...0 -
I use both - I was on a fast training ride this morning with a mate riding tubs on carbon wheels - we were riding at 50kph plus when there was a 'bang - phfffft' and we both eased up - I was riding Shamals and realised it wasn't me because I wasn't bumping along on my rim - my mate's rear had deflated slightly, but apart from a small cut in the rear, the tub was sound. He's using Stan's sealant - he needs to use a veterinary catheter and a big syringe to get it in there. My own experience from racing with tubs is that they are far more reliable than clinchers - Vittoria Evos are my choice of rubber.Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0
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Well, I'm just about to ordered a pair of Standard 111 Lightweight wheels. Obviously, they are tubs. .....so looking forward to them arriving !!! :P0
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nicensleazy wrote:Well, I'm just about to ordered a pair of Standard 111 Lightweight wheels. Obviously, they are tubs. .....so looking forward to them arriving !!! :P
though you were skint ha ha ha...0 -
bristolpete wrote:nicensleazy wrote:Well, I'm just about to ordered a pair of Standard 111 Lightweight wheels. Obviously, they are tubs. .....so looking forward to them arriving !!! :P
though you were skint ha ha ha...
He is, he wanted the Obermeyers...0 -
NapoleonD wrote:bristolpete wrote:nicensleazy wrote:Well, I'm just about to ordered a pair of Standard 111 Lightweight wheels. Obviously, they are tubs. .....so looking forward to them arriving !!! :P
though you were skint ha ha ha...
He is, he wanted the Obermeyers...
hahahaha
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