C2W Advice - Thoughts Appreciated

jmillen
jmillen Posts: 627
edited May 2010 in Commuting chat
Afternoon Folks :D

Well its that time of the year again, the voucher will be here in a couple of weeks so the decision making process has started. Last year I got a Boardman Pro (hardtail) but thats now gone and replaced with a Stumpy Carbon (for offroad use obviously). I'm currently commuting on an old Carrera Kraken with slick tyres which is too small for me so the plan for this years voucher is to sort out a decent bike for the trip to work....

The way I see it, I have a few obvious options:

1. Spend £1000 on a Boardman Team Carbon
2. Spend £1000 on a Boardman Hybrid Ltd Edition (the one with the red decals)
3. Go for a lower priced road/hybrid, say £500 and then spend the rest of the money on spares and stuff. (i.e stuff for the commuter and my offroad bike).

Reasons for and against:

1. I can't really see that I need a full road bike for a 4 mile round trip each day?
2. Do I need to spend that much on a Hybrid? Will I notice the difference to the £500 one?
3. I'll have a load of kit and spares, yes, but I'll end up thinking I should have just bought the more expensive bike all along...

What do you think? Anyones thoughts / comments etc are much appreciated :)
2010 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Expert Carbon
2014 De Rosa R848
Carrera TDF Ltd Commuter

Comments

  • geordiefella
    geordiefella Posts: 302
    i think most folk here would say there's little point in buying more than a few hundred quid runabout bike for 2 miles each way.

    if you're thinking about those bikes, they're both road specific really. and if you're going to be on roads you might be better off with the drop bar for out of town riding.

    if you want to max your voucher, you could consider the genesis croix de fer. its take paths, longer rides, road riding, kerbs, forests, C2C rides, studded / knobbled winter tyres etc.

    get yourself a rapha winter hat for winter. ideal.

    have fun.
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  • DazCr
    DazCr Posts: 32
    Have you considered the Boardman CX? http://www.boardmanbikes.com/cx/CX_Pro.html

    Drop bars, brakes on both upper and lower bars and treaded tyres......looks like a good spec for the cash as well.

    On my first C2W I spent £650 on the Boardman Hybrid and the remainder on a Boardman helmet, Gore jacket (which Halfords ordered in specially) and other bits and bobs, but on the 2 subsequent schemes I have done through work I have spent nearer the full allowance on the bike itself so it's a tough call. My first instinct would be to max out on the bike (get what you pay for, etc) and do upgrading on a gradual basis....
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    Boardman Hybrid
    A retro hardtail seemingly made of lead
  • D_Duke
    D_Duke Posts: 1
    Same decision as you. I bought the boardman hybrid ltd (limited red decals). Tried it for the first time today and loved it. I have road bike also but didn't want to use it for commute and spoil it by putting panniers on it so the hybrid was best solution.
  • DazCr
    DazCr Posts: 32
    Jealous...!!

    Love the look of the Ltd Edition Hybrid and the spec is amazing for the price.....would also have preferred the V Brakes on a hybrid rather than the Avid Juicy's on mine.

    Also rather annoyed that about 3 months after I bought mine, they upped the spec to carbon forks.....!
    Boardman HT Pro with a few mods
    Boardman Team Full Susser
    Boardman Hybrid
    A retro hardtail seemingly made of lead
  • jmillen
    jmillen Posts: 627
    I was tempted to get the £500 hybrid and then just spend the rest on a load of tools and spares etc but I do really like the look of the Pro limited with red decals. Thing is, its £1 short of £1000, do I really want that just sat in the bike cage at work with other people resting theirs next to it etc? I'm thinking not.

    Was even tempted by one of the £500 mtb bikes, stick some slicks on, and off I go, at least I can pop up and down the kerbs then as I do at the moment and still have plenty of £ spare for bits

    The CX is a good option, but similar story ref. bike cage

    Aghhhh, I dont know... :roll:
    2010 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Expert Carbon
    2014 De Rosa R848
    Carrera TDF Ltd Commuter
  • Rykard
    Rykard Posts: 582
    jmillen wrote:
    I was tempted to get the £500 hybrid and then just spend the rest on a load of tools and spares etc but I do really like the look of the Pro limited with red decals. Thing is, its £1 short of £1000, do I really want that just sat in the bike cage at work with other people resting theirs next to it etc? I'm thinking not.

    Was even tempted by one of the £500 mtb bikes, stick some slicks on, and off I go, at least I can pop up and down the kerbs then as I do at the moment and still have plenty of £ spare for bits

    The CX is a good option, but similar story ref. bike cage

    Aghhhh, I dont know... :roll:
    that's what is putting me off. I am now leaning towards using what I have ...
    Cheers
    Rich

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  • DazCr
    DazCr Posts: 32
    Fair point....although if you pay higher rate tax, the bike/equipment costs you approximately half of what you spend making it too good an offer for me to refuse.....
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    Boardman Team Full Susser
    Boardman Hybrid
    A retro hardtail seemingly made of lead
  • geordiefella
    geordiefella Posts: 302
    What about a specialized tricross (std, sport, comp etc). They're truly versatile for racks guards or a roadie day out and are able to be fitted with winter studded tyres too as well as slicks.
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    For a 2mile each way (my neighbour used to do that on an 8" travel Norco DH bike!) use anything you want, personally I'd go pretty cheap on the bike and max out the 'other benefits' such as tools, clothing etc.

    If it were my choice I'd run a reasonable MTB HT with 'baloon' slicks, do Halfrauds still do the GT ZUM? (Zaskar Urban Machine) that looked fun and was about £400 from memory.....

    EDIT: - yes http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165534

    Simon
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    For a 2mile each way (my neighbour used to do that on an 8" travel Norco DH bike!) use anything you want

    For two flat miles I'd give this a go!

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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    It would be great fun, but emergency stops can be worrying!

    Simon
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • symo
    symo Posts: 1,743
    For that distance what about a boardman singlespeed?
    +++++++++++++++++++++
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Or a Decathlon Vitamin SS, just £70, think of the extra's you could get with the other £900!

    Simon
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • Aguila
    Aguila Posts: 622
    For a 2mile each way (my neighbour used to do that on an 8" travel Norco DH bike!) use anything you want, personally I'd go pretty cheap on the bike and max out the 'other benefits' such as tools, clothing etc.

    Simon

    I'm fairly sure you cannot use your voucher to pay for such things. It's only allowed to pay for the bike and security/safety stuff. This limits you to lock, helmet, lights. Maybe high viz at a pinch. Certainly not tools, jerseys etc.
  • Rykard
    Rykard Posts: 582
    Aguila wrote:
    For a 2mile each way (my neighbour used to do that on an 8" travel Norco DH bike!) use anything you want, personally I'd go pretty cheap on the bike and max out the 'other benefits' such as tools, clothing etc.

    Simon

    I'm fairly sure you cannot use your voucher to pay for such things. It's only allowed to pay for the bike and security/safety stuff. This limits you to lock, helmet, lights. Maybe high viz at a pinch. Certainly not tools, jerseys etc.
    I think there has been enough ambiguity in the past that has allowed people to do this.... good maintenance = safety...
    Cheers
    Rich

    A Vision of a Champion is someone who is bent over, drenched with sweat, at the point of exhaustion, when no one else is watching.
  • Rykard wrote:
    Aguila wrote:
    For a 2mile each way (my neighbour used to do that on an 8" travel Norco DH bike!) use anything you want, personally I'd go pretty cheap on the bike and max out the 'other benefits' such as tools, clothing etc.

    Simon

    I'm fairly sure you cannot use your voucher to pay for such things. It's only allowed to pay for the bike and security/safety stuff. This limits you to lock, helmet, lights. Maybe high viz at a pinch. Certainly not tools, jerseys etc.
    I think there has been enough ambiguity in the past that has allowed people to do this.... good maintenance = safety...

    From the fishyal guidelines:
    Pumps, puncture repair kits, cycle tool kits and tyre sealant to allow for minor repairs
    Reflective clothing along with white front reflectors and spoke reflectors

    http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/sustainable/c ... df/518054/

    That looks open to interpretation to me.
  • DazCr
    DazCr Posts: 32
    unless you get a particularly pedantic salesperson you can pretty much get what you want. On one of the years that I done the scheme I included a child bike trailer at £130.00....

    I reckon the trick is not to ask them what you can get but just pile it up on the desk and see if they have a problem with it.....
    Boardman HT Pro with a few mods
    Boardman Team Full Susser
    Boardman Hybrid
    A retro hardtail seemingly made of lead
  • jmillen
    jmillen Posts: 627
    As much as I'd like to be riding a £1000 bike into work, I know that all its going to take is someone leaning their bike up against mine, and that'll be it, paint scratched etc.

    I'm thinking of the Hybrid Comp for £500 which seems to do the job I need it for (i.e 4 mile round trip commute). I'll have a look on the Halfords website now, see what I could get with the remaining £500.

    Suggestions?
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    2014 De Rosa R848
    Carrera TDF Ltd Commuter
  • scrumpydave
    scrumpydave Posts: 143
    Don't worry about your bike getting scratched. It will happen sooner or later anyway.

    One more vote for the Tricross Sport. I got mine on C2W and it's superb.
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