The worst thing about David Cameron

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  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    Chris James wrote:
    verylonglegs wrote:
    Chris James wrote:
    Av it wrote:
    Yes I prefer the one eyed scottish goon too, ......

    I see why Teresa May said the Conservatives were viewed as the 'nasty party'....

    To be fair you'll find such nasty comments from either party. I've lost count of the times I've heard or read people, including some on this forum, refer to the Conservatives as toffs, rich tw@ts etc. and for some reason thinking that having a bit of money in your pocket makes you fair game for abuse.

    It was using Brown's eye injury as some form of abuse that I thought that unpleasant..

    Oh I agree totally its quite odious and I wasn't trying to excuse it anyway. I also agree with Mr. Finch who said its a shame policies are not argued on merit rather than having a dig at people for their backgrounds..after all democracy means politics should be open to everyone. The fact is all political parties have their share of career politicians now, its an inescapable fact.
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    verylonglegs wrote:
    Chris James wrote:
    verylonglegs wrote:
    Chris James wrote:
    Av it wrote:
    Yes I prefer the one eyed scottish goon too, ......

    I see why Teresa May said the Conservatives were viewed as the 'nasty party'....

    To be fair you'll find such nasty comments from either party. I've lost count of the times I've heard or read people, including some on this forum, refer to the Conservatives as toffs, rich tw@ts etc. and for some reason thinking that having a bit of money in your pocket makes you fair game for abuse.

    It was using Brown's eye injury as some form of abuse that I thought that unpleasant..

    Oh I agree totally its quite odious and I wasn't trying to excuse it anyway. I also agree with Mr. Finch who said its a shame policies are not argued on merit rather than having a dig at people for their backgrounds..after all democracy means politics should be open to everyone. The fact is all political parties have their share of career politicians now, its an inescapable fact.

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    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

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  • SteveR_100Milers
    SteveR_100Milers Posts: 5,987
    verloren wrote:
    SteveR_100Milers wrote:
    If you bother to check the figures most people never had it so good for the most part of the last decade

    Actually if you bother to check the figures most people *spent* like they'd never had it so good. Much, though not all, of that spending was based on the increase in value of property, an increase which was based on little more than a shared assumption that property values will continue to go up.

    and I totally agree, I have said this in countless posts already that each person is responsible for their own actions, and if those actions are foolish such as borrowing what you cannot afford it is not the fault of some other organisation or person, this is after all the basic concept of a free society.
    So, indeed we did have it good, because we all had the chance to borrow sensibly but too many clearly showed gross error of judgement. The choice is either to leave it alone for people to make their own choice to get into difficulty, or you introduce more regulation. The irony is the number of Tory supporters who are blaming Brown for too little intervention, and would appear to want more govt control!
    Mind you the prospect of Clegg deputising for Cameron in PM's questions is extremely bizarre...
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  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    SteveR_100Milers wrote:
    and I totally agree, I have said this in countless posts already that each person is responsible for their own actions, and if those actions are foolish such as borrowing what you cannot afford it is not the fault of some other organisation or person, this is after all the basic concept of a free society.
    So, indeed we did have it good, because we all had the chance to borrow sensibly but too many clearly showed gross error of judgement

    In some cases I'd agree with you - if someone is borrowing just to get a bigger TV/car/go on an expensive holiday then of course that's foolish.

    What I don't agree with is people calling others foolish for borrowing too much for a mortgage. What exactly was a first time buyer meant to do during the period of ever-increasing house prices? I kept an eye on values of property in my local area, and they were going up faster than I could ever afford, so most young people were probably scared of "missing the boat" and being unable to afford a house in the future.

    So society, the government, the banks etc. do bear responsibility for putting young people into that situation. I personally am not in this situation, because I didn't believe prices would keep going up forever, but if I had wanted to start a family five or six years ago, then I might have had little choice but to borrow more than I could realistically afford.
  • rake
    rake Posts: 3,204
    and the ever increasing population is making it worse.

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