Seems like Evans is blaming Sky then
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disgruntledgoat wrote:Rodrego Hernandez wrote:intothe12 wrote:I thought Sky did a decent job all day yesterday, and Wiggins at least seemed up for it seeing as though at one stage he was doing up and over with vino. Saying that, after his crash, I was surprised he did not get up off his ars* quicker and re-mount, he seemed to flaff about for a while messing about with the chain. I know his main focus is the Tour, but yesterday his licking of the wounds cost him the Giro. Compared to Cuengo who has said he is not going for the GC, he was getting caught behind everything and hitting the deck, then chases for 40km and gets back to the Evans group, true grit and hard riding.
I think Wiggans needs to dust off his cravat and Paul Smith attire and harden the f*ck up. So what, you crashed, we have all crashed hard in races, but when you go down with 10km to go, you get up fast and tidy yourself up after the race.
Predictions for the Tour: Wiggins has a strop somewhere around the cobbled section in Belgium, losses ten minutes, and then moans and bitches on Twitter about why cobbles should not be in the Tour. Suck it up!!
Sky made an excellent road block whilst they all stood there looking at their bikes and generally looking like they had never seen an unshipped chain before. Surely between them all they could have got Wiggins on a workable bike and got him riding, it was only a few KM to the finish. Only themselves to blame both for their own losses and for getting in the way of the others.
The sky Jag was nowhere to be seen either. They must have been stood in the road for minutes before anybody from the team came to their aid.
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frenchfighter wrote:Evans is admirable.
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emadden wrote:Wiggins seems to have terrible difficulty in figuring out how to get a chain back on once it falls off.... who said that, internet forum people ?0
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The footage missed the cause of the crash (not sure if it's come out anywhere) but even if it was a Sky rider it's not exactly fair to slag off the whole team, only one would have fallen (and not like Evans has never crashed before). Wiggins was clearly hurt when he got up, I too was expecting him to look panicked and grab a team-mates bike but he doubled-up in pain a couple of times and I guess thought "f**k this I'm not here to win so I'll take it easy". I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls-out after the TTT, not like he's hanging on to pink anymore (or going to get it back in the TTT).0
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Surprised Evans didn't blame the evil pixies. That guy is seriously unhinged.
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FJS wrote:What I find interesting is to know whether the Sky rider in Evans' wheel in the immediate chase after the crash was indeed Wiggins. Cyclingnews' photo of the couple seem to suggest it was. The Sky rider gave up the chase, while Evans reached the group in front of them.
If that was the case, Wiggins, Sky, and all their fans don't have any reason to complain about the GC time lost.
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mididoctors wrote:FJS wrote:What I find interesting is to know whether the Sky rider in Evans' wheel in the immediate chase after the crash was indeed Wiggins. Cyclingnews' photo of the couple seem to suggest it was. The Sky rider gave up the chase, while Evans reached the group in front of them.
If that was the case, Wiggins, Sky, and all their fans don't have any reason to complain about the GC time lost.
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what annoyed me with the sky rider behnd evans was that he didn't help him out. a sky rider caused a crash that got the favourite dropped, he should've buried himself to get him back up front. even if it wasn't skys fault that guy proably has nothing to race for and couldve helped, but i'm probably just naive"Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0
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Radioactiveman wrote:Surprised Evans didn't blame the evil pixies. That guy is seriously unhinged.
Are you saying Sky didn't cause his problems? Do you not think someone who cares about trying to win the race rather than training to come 9th in the Tour might be a bit miffed if he lost time through someone elses crash?Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
intothe12 wrote:I thought Sky did a decent job all day yesterday, and Wiggins at least seemed up for it seeing as though at one stage he was doing up and over with vino. Saying that, after his crash, I was surprised he did not get up off his ars* quicker and re-mount, he seemed to flaff about for a while messing about with the chain. I know his main focus is the Tour, but yesterday his licking of the wounds cost him the Giro. Compared to Cuengo who has said he is not going for the GC, he was getting caught behind everything and hitting the deck, then chases for 40km and gets back to the Evans group, true grit and hard riding.
I think Wiggans needs to dust off his cravat and Paul Smith attire and harden the f*ck up. So what, you crashed, we have all crashed hard in races, but when you go down with 10km to go, you get up fast and tidy yourself up after the race.
Predictions for the Tour: Wiggins has a strop somewhere around the cobbled section in Belgium, losses ten minutes, and then moans and bitches on Twitter about why cobbles should not be in the Tour. Suck it up!!**************************************************
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gsk82 wrote:what annoyed me with the sky rider behnd evans was that he didn't help him out. a sky rider caused a crash that got the favourite dropped, he should've buried himself to get him back up front. even if it wasn't skys fault that guy proably has nothing to race for and couldve helped, but i'm probably just naive
Although you're right the Sky man probably has nothing to race for, Evans does. Sky man would also have been silly to help a potential GC rival to Wiggins."A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"
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In the heat of the moment the rider shadowing Evans may not have been aware that the rest of his team were still picking up their bikes. His team-mate further up the road, who had slowed to wait, had to call him off Evans' wheel so they could wait for Wiggins.
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gsk82 wrote:what annoyed me with the sky rider behnd evans was that he didn't help him out. a sky rider caused a crash that got the favourite dropped, he should've buried himself to get him back up front. even if it wasn't skys fault that guy proably has nothing to race for and couldve helped, but i'm probably just naive
yes.
Evans should have had at least 1 or 2 teammates helping him chase, it's not other teams responsibility.0 -
to be honest if you lose time in a stage because another team crashes in front of you then they interview you just after the stage these are the sort of comments you will get.
I'm sure if they interview Cadel today he will have softened his stance a bit and just seen it as a racing incident.
Sky did seem to be in a shambles when Wiggi was down with a broken bike, why not just give him another bike, even it is doesn't fit perfect he can keep riding while the team car catches up and then he get change again.
Guess now Wiggo is using this for training and all GC hopes are gone, shame as we will never know if he really was going to give this race a proper crack at GC0 -
Well theres always the Vuelta, he might do ok in that one if other riders mechanics and god dont have it in for him still.0
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Interesting stuff this.
Crashes happen in cycling - you pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back on the bike (if possible).
I too was amazed at the amount of time the Sky riders spent faffing after the crash. Wiggo particularly. Fair play, if he's hurt he's hurt, but the way he was sanding there bemused by a slipped chain was incredible. Surely a 'marginal gain' would be to teach a team leader how to put a chain back on?! Embarrassing that he just stood there, whilst one of his team did the obvious.
Clearly his quest (was it ever a quest?) for the GC is over now, but there's still the TTT and ITT for stage wins and I would imagine he'll still ride the difficult 3rd week in the autobus for condition. Wasn't that always the plan?
As for the first week of the Tour, what was already being billed as 'nervous' and 'unpredictable' has now become 'panic' and 'carnage'. This week at the GIro has shown all the GC riders how much time can be lost outside of the mountains and the TTs if you don't rider smartly.0 -
I want to see Sky have a go now - they are well down the GC but a team of their budget can't just write the Giro off after 3 days especially after underperforming in the Spring classics. The way things are going their whole season is going to rest on Wiggo getting on the TdF podium.
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Tom Butcher wrote:I want to see Sky have a go now - they are well down the GC but a team of their budget can't just write the Giro off after 3 days especially after underperforming in the Spring classics. The way things are going their whole season is going to rest on Wiggo getting on the TdF podium.
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calvjones wrote:Tom Butcher wrote:I want to see Sky have a go now - they are well down the GC but a team of their budget can't just write the Giro off after 3 days especially after underperforming in the Spring classics. The way things are going their whole season is going to rest on Wiggo getting on the TdF podium.
I suspect it always did.
I think Dr Eveil had high expectations of E Boasen-Hagen in the cobbled classics and Gerrans in the Ardennes. In the end, EBH was injured (putting to one side the Fab Canc factor) and Gerrans never really featured at the sharp end. Flecha was good - a Paris Roubaix podium, Het Newsblatt win and good showing at Flanders not to be sniffed at.
That all said, in terms of profile (especially the English-speaking parts of the world), it's all about the Tour and putting everything on Wiggo for a podium is very risky. This week at the Giro has highlighted what can happen on any given day.
Say what you like about Valv.Piti, he has never fallen into the trap of focussing everything on the Tour. Likewise, Bertie likes to get a few good performances under his belt before the big goal. At least then, if something goes wrong, you can fall back on a Liege, Fleche, Paris Nice, Dauphine etc etc. To date, Wiggo has only really 'raced' a couple of TTs - everything else has been training/prep.0 -
Given that Sky also blamed Sky for the crash (Sean Yates saying Hayman took the corner too quickly bringing down the rest of the team) I really can't see what the problem is with Evans saying it.0
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stagehopper wrote:Given that Sky also blamed Sky for the crash (Sean Yates saying Hayman took the corner too quickly bringing down the rest of the team) I really can't see what the problem is with Evans saying it.
The problem with Evans' comments are not so much his comments, but that he has a face like a bum.
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Highlights - not great but show him hanging around:
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Good photos of the stage here. See Astana grouped on the front:
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Neil McC wrote:^ with the asence of his team around him yesterday, it could be Evans that may be more in need of allies?
Ha, Ha (not you Neil as I use your post to clarify mine).
Please tell me who is the biggest "WHEEL SUCKER2 in the peloton and WTF was he doing yet again.
Mr Po Face complains really about sucking the wrong wheels, what a shame, you win some you loose some.
Stop complaining about yet again being on the wrong wheel as you would have been very satisfied if they had brought you home.
You made the decision to follow the wrong wheels, that's all and so it's your own fault.
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deejay wrote:Neil McC wrote:^ with the asence of his team around him yesterday, it could be Evans that may be more in need of allies?
Ha, Ha (not you Neil as I use your post to clarify mine).
Please tell me who is the biggest "WHEEL SUCKER2 in the peloton and WTF was he doing yet again.
Mr Po Face complains really about sucking the wrong wheels, what a shame, you win some you loose some.
Stop complaining about yet again being on the wrong wheel as you would have been very satisfied if they had brought you home.
You made the decision to follow the wrong wheels, that's all and so it's your own fault.
It was a North East chuff tail wind and echelons were caused by crashes not head winds.
Umm, he wasn't complaining. Some journo asked him a question, he responds.
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SpaceJunk wrote:stagehopper wrote:Given that Sky also blamed Sky for the crash (Sean Yates saying Hayman took the corner too quickly bringing down the rest of the team) I really can't see what the problem is with Evans saying it.
The problem with Evans' comments are not so much his comments, but that he has a face like a bum.
That's what I've learned from this forum topic.
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SpaceJunk wrote:deejay wrote:
Umm, he wasn't complaining. Some journo asked him a question, he responds.
Deejay, feel free to stick a photo up of yourself on this forum and let us make some derogative remarks about your looks.
You wouldn't want a photo because it would scare the sh*t out of you.
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How much is it worth to look at a nobody.
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deejay wrote:Neil McC wrote:^ with the asence of his team around him yesterday, it could be Evans that may be more in need of allies?
Ha, Ha (not you Neil as I use your post to clarify mine).
Please tell me who is the biggest "WHEEL SUCKER2 in the peloton and WTF was he doing yet again.
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His reputation was well deserved - he's a bit more positive these days.
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