A few CAAD9 alternatives

nomoreexcuses
nomoreexcuses Posts: 118
edited May 2010 in Road buying advice
Well deserved but too much CAAD9 hysteria around here!

Canyon Ultimate AL - stiffer and cheaper than a CAAD9
http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/specs.html?b=1824

Red Bull Pro SL 3000 - another German bike, just can't get it yet
http://road.cc/content/review/16634-red ... ro-sl-3000

BMC RoadRacer
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/bmc ... e-ec020517

Scenario Pro
http://www.poshbikes.com/product.php?id=60

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  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    nomoreexcuses wrote:
    Well deserved but too much CAAD9 hysteria around here!

    Canyon Ultimate AL - stiffer and cheaper than a CAAD9
    http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/specs.html?b=1824

    Red Bull Pro SL 3000 - another German bike, just can't get it yet
    http://road.cc/content/review/16634-red ... ro-sl-3000

    BMC RoadRacer
    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/bmc ... e-ec020517

    Scenario Pro
    http://www.poshbikes.com/product.php?id=60

    I'm contemplating the Storck, but to be fair, it's twice the price of the CAAD9 and that doesn't include forks.

    Is the price of that Canyon correct? EUR1999 with 11 spd chorus! A real bargain
  • orangepip
    orangepip Posts: 219
    incidentally you can get redbull bikes over here now.
    rose.co.uk i think
  • nomoreexcuses
    nomoreexcuses Posts: 118
    Garry H wrote:

    I'm contemplating the Storck, but to be fair, it's twice the price of the CAAD9 and that doesn't include forks.

    Is the price of that Canyon correct? EUR1999 with 11 spd chorus! A real bargain

    Canyon is great price and in tests came out stiffer.

    Ok BMC bikes are not cheap either but they are very stiff.

    I also considering French Cyfac frames they sell on CRC. Ridden by the greats, they are very high quality and very stiff, particularly the Proxidium.

    It foolish to spend £1000 for a CAAD9 when entire bike parts are piss poor and not worth much. I get a £400-700 frame and spend the difference on better parts. End up with something better than a CAAD9 for a similar price!
  • nomoreexcuses
    nomoreexcuses Posts: 118
    edited May 2010
    orangepip wrote:
    incidentally you can get redbull bikes over here now.
    rose.co.uk i think

    Good try. The company RED Bull for UK is called Rose UK but that isn't the website. Can get the bikes later on in year. They were just at a show.
  • TimB34
    TimB34 Posts: 316
    If you're considering Al, have you looked at the Spooky Skeletor?
  • nomoreexcuses
    nomoreexcuses Posts: 118
    edited May 2010
    TimB34 wrote:
    If you're considering Al, have you looked at the Spooky Skeletor?

    Looked at it briefly, gaining popularity. I have one of those but it's another one i can't get hold of unless order overseas.
  • Hibbs
    Hibbs Posts: 291
    Canyon! Good enough for Phil Gilbert, good enough for you.

    Oh, and did you know that if you have a racing licence you get a couple of hundred euro's discount? Go to their website and click on Sponsorship. ;)
  • nomoreexcuses
    nomoreexcuses Posts: 118
    edited May 2010
    I will go with a Canyon AL. 38 euros to ship.

    http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=1933

    8)

    A Canyon Prolite project going on.
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16118758
  • brit66
    brit66 Posts: 350
    I could be wrong but I believe Silence Lotto also rode the Ultimate AF frame in Paris-Roubaix in 2009?

    So much for that old chesnut that alumminium frames are always a harsh ride.

    A pro level frame for £600 quid is a bloody good deal.
  • andyrr
    andyrr Posts: 1,823
    Re race licence reductions : only certain models it seems.
    Access via Service / sponsoring.

    Model / Road: Sponsoring-Price:
    ULTIMATE CF SLX Frameset Evo € 1,699 (instead of € 1,999)
    ULTIMATE CF SLX Frameset € 1,499 (instead of € 1,799)
    ULTIMATE CF Frameset Evo € 1,299 (instead of € 1,499)
    ULTIMATE CF Frameset € 999 (instead of € 1,199)
    ULTIMATE AL Frameset Evo € 649 (instead of € 799)
    SPEEDMAX CF Frameset € 1,599 (instead of € 1,999)
    SPEEDMAX AL Frameset € 699 (instead of € 899)
    Model / MTB: Sponsoring-Price:
    LUX MR Frameset € 1,399 (instead of € 1,699)
    GRAND CANYON CF Frameset € 999 (instead of € 1,299)
  • nomoreexcuses
    nomoreexcuses Posts: 118
    orangepip wrote:
    incidentally you can get redbull bikes over here now.
    rose.co.uk i think

    The europe site is
    http://roseversand.com

    RED BULL PRO-SL 3000 2010 - £1295 with Ultegra and EA70 wheels. http://roseversand.com/bikes/racing-bik ... ail2=30520
  • nomoreexcuses
    nomoreexcuses Posts: 118
    edited May 2010
    brit66 wrote:
    I could be wrong but I believe Silence Lotto also rode the Ultimate AF frame in Paris-Roubaix in 2009?

    So much for that old chesnut that alumminium frames are always a harsh ride.

    Yeah.

    Not harsh. As i discovering, it obviously not all about the weight either, as high end alu frames, outperforming the low mid-range carbon frames and on a par with some high end.

    Look to Europe-Germany and neighbouring countries for high end ALU stiff frames :wink: .
  • nomoreexcuses
    nomoreexcuses Posts: 118
    andyrr wrote:
    Re race licence reductions : only certain models it seems.
    Access via Service / sponsoring.

    Thanks anyway. Only reduced prices i see, is selling off older framesets here. http://www.canyon.com/_en/outlet/list.h ... frame_race

    At least you get stem and seatpost in the price.
  • acorn_user
    acorn_user Posts: 1,137
    How about FORT or Duratec out of the Czech Republic?
  • Hibbs
    Hibbs Posts: 291
    nomoreexcuses wrote:
    I will go with a Canyon AL. 38 euros to ship.

    http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=1933

    8)

    A Canyon Prolite project going on.
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16118758

    Good man.

    That project is mine, although it's only the Roadlite model. I'm still very impressed for the price, though. I sometimes wish I'd bought an Ultimate Al instead of ordering the new best I've gone for and saved some cash... Like I said above, if the Ultimate Al is good enough for the current World No.1, then it's more than sufficient for us muggles.
  • skinnygav
    skinnygav Posts: 50
    nomoreexcuses wrote:
    I will go with a Canyon AL. 38 euros to ship.

    http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=1933

    8)

    A Canyon Prolite project going on.
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16118758

    would you go for the canyon over the red bul then nomoreexcuses? if so why?
  • nomoreexcuses
    nomoreexcuses Posts: 118
    edited May 2010
    skinnygav wrote:
    nomoreexcuses wrote:
    I will go with a Canyon AL. 38 euros to ship.

    http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=1933

    8)

    A Canyon Prolite project going on.
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16118758

    would you go for the canyon over the red bul then nomoreexcuses? if so why?

    Yes the Canyon has some proven record. The RB is early days, alot for budget, need to see more user tests and reviews. One thing i don't like with alu and carbon is the giant downtube.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    Heard good things about Duratec...

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