Specialized Enduro wheelset replacement 25mm

stomith
stomith Posts: 332
edited February 2011 in MTB buying advice
Looking for suggestions as to what will replace std STOUT/M525 hubs/X430 wheelset on Enduro SL 2008

Rovals - any good?
Industry 9 - any good?

I would ditch the current wheels and get some slightly wider Mavic rims to get a better profile with 2.35" tyres.

I don't like the idea of converting down from 25 to 20mm for more choice ...unless someone can convince me it is the way to go.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    i have rovals fitted to mine (but with a 20mm fork) they are the best wheels i have ever used but i got mine for 350 quid and for that money, i cant thnk of a better wheelset.

    i9 wheels look amazing and are tempting just on aesthetics alone, they are so pricey that not many folks on here have actaully tried them.
  • stomith
    stomith Posts: 332
    What fork did you put on...and may I ask....why?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    i fitted a lyrik:

    4535334309_561d633b5b_b.jpg

    mainly because i had some spare cash and fancied a change, also was the reliability problem i had with the fork, it only failed once and was repaired and upgraded in less than 2 days and worked beautifully, but i lost faith in it.
  • stomith
    stomith Posts: 332
    Shiney = Good :)

    So many questions. So little time.

    So as no-one else is watching or reading this: Are those bouncy seat post things any good? I kinda like the idea of lifting the seat real high when I can as it lets me strech my legs (avoiding cramp)...but then dropping it low for those downhill moments.

    and you have a tensioner on there. What is it attached to? The Chain Stay?
  • JamesBrckmn
    JamesBrckmn Posts: 1,360
    that is a chain guide, probably attached to an iscg mount
  • The Big Cheese
    The Big Cheese Posts: 8,650
    stomith wrote:
    Shiney = Good :)

    So many questions. So little time.

    So as no-one else is watching or reading this: Are those bouncy seat post things any good? I kinda like the idea of lifting the seat real high when I can as it lets me strech my legs (avoiding cramp)...but then dropping it low for those downhill moments.

    and you have a tensioner on there. What is it attached to? The Chain Stay?

    BB Mount (Blackspire Stinger I think). They are run with deraillieur,
  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    I'd go for the industry nine wheels and stans flow rims.
    Neeermad
    Carbon 456
    456 lefty
    Pompino
    White Inbred
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    stomith wrote:
    Shiney = Good :)

    So many questions. So little time.

    So as no-one else is watching or reading this: Are those bouncy seat post things any good? I kinda like the idea of lifting the seat real high when I can as it lets me strech my legs (avoiding cramp)...but then dropping it low for those downhill moments.

    and you have a tensioner on there. What is it attached to? The Chain Stay?

    the chain tensioner is attached to the iscg tabs on the frame around the bottom bracket. the post is amazing, so good in fact i have one on my stumpjumper too for the exact reasons you have mentioned.
  • stomith
    stomith Posts: 332
    Still not sure what to do about wheels. Front is in the LBS with a broken spoke. The feel of the forums is that this might be the first of many :/

    Rear is an M525 which is very non-inspiring. That basic hub is used everywhere and I don't think I like Shimano hubs. Sealed are so much easier/cleaner to service.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    you could have new rims built onto the existing front hub and replace the rear with something better perhaps? would certainly be cheaper than a new set of wheels but essentially fulfill the same task of being improvements.
  • SDK2007
    SDK2007 Posts: 782
    I'm also running Roval Traverse's on my 2008 Enduro SL. Had them nearly a year and they have been amazing. I've only had to change the front bearings once.

    They are the perfect wheel for the Enduro - light, strong, wide 28mm rim and fit the 25mm thru axle out of the box.

    I9's are nice but £700+ is a lot to pay.
    Specialized Enduro SL Pro Carbon
    Specialized Stumpy Evo Carbon
    Canyon Aeroad Disc Di2
    Specialized FSRxc - XC Race Bike
  • stomith
    stomith Posts: 332
    Rovals should be turning up tomorrow :)

    £359

    I'll weigh the Speccy wheels (after the LBS has sorted them out) and compare them to the Rovals. Might be a Winter/Summer config coming up...especially as I can't work out how much the Speccy STD wheels with X430 on would fetch.
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    stomith wrote:
    Rovals should be turning up tomorrow :)

    £359
    From where?
    I can only find them with a 20mm bolt through hub :roll:
    Lynskey R480

  • stomith
    stomith Posts: 332
    http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDeta ... ctID=23421

    "OS28-compatible for Future Shock forks"

    I hope it means they come with a converter in the box. Got me worried now. It should be the 25mm.
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    Front hub: includes quick-change 20mm/15mm/QR axle caps

    OS28-compatible for Future Shock forks
    That's the bit that worries me as Spesh do the E120 futureshock with 15mm bolt-thru IIRC.
    Lynskey R480

  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    OK I posted this on the Specialized forum on MTBR
    Just a dumb question really.In the details/description it states
    Front hub: includes quick-change 20mm/15mm/QR axle caps

    OS28-compatible for Future Shock forks
    I'm assuming that OS28 is the E150 25mm Bolt-thru?
    and got this reply
    No, the OS28 is oversized end caps for the specialized forks, it creates a much stiffer interface, while allowing you to use a standard QR.
    I'm going to phone Specialized to confirm whether or not the wheels are indeed compatible with the E150 :? It sounds like you use a 9mm QR and end caps instead of the bolt through to me?Which will be nowhere near as stiff ....surely :?
    Lynskey R480

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/4252972/

    the second adapter is the os28, it is not for a 25mm axle. i think since spesh have dropped the e150, they dont feel the need to build the compatible converters anymore.
  • Zaskar20
    Zaskar20 Posts: 557
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys, but I recently purchased the Roval EL wheelset and they did not come with 25mm adapters.
    20mm, 15mm, QR and OS28 adapters only. Don't know much about the weird looking OS 28, but it is definately not 25mm. Sorry. :(
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    Zaskar20 wrote:
    Don't know much about the weird looking OS 28, but it is definitely not 25mm. Sorry. :(
    I'm waiting to hear back from the guy but it looks like you use the OS28 and a QR instead of the 25mm Bolt-thru :?
    Lynskey R480

  • Zaskar20
    Zaskar20 Posts: 557
    ibbo68 wrote:
    I'm going to phone Specialized to confirm whether or not the wheels are indeed compatible with the E150 :? It sounds like you use a 9mm QR and end caps instead of the bolt through to me?Which will be nowhere near as stiff ....surely :?

    I agree, I can't see how it can be as stiff. At least they will be compatable though.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    ibbo68 wrote:
    Zaskar20 wrote:
    Don't know much about the weird looking OS 28, but it is definitely not 25mm. Sorry. :(
    I'm waiting to hear back from the guy but it looks like you use the OS28 and a QR instead of the 25mm Bolt-thru :?

    the os28 is for use with normal qr dropouts, it offers a bigger interface on the inside face of the fork dropout for extra stiffnes but currently only works on spesh forks and rockshox qr forks too.

    there is a modified version called os24 for fox forks.
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    Bummer if you've just purchased a set then and have an E-150 :wink:
    <<<<wipes brow<<<<<
    Lynskey R480

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,665
    turns out the 25mm adapters formt the 08/09 version wont fit the 2010 wheel either.
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    I'm going to contact Spesh tomorrow.Surely there's a way around this.
    Lynskey R480

  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    After much digging and reading it appears that THESE fit.All you have to do is remove the bearings and install 2X6805RS bearings and your original end caps and Roberts your fathers brother.

    Just a pity they only come in red :roll:
    Lynskey R480

  • stomith
    stomith Posts: 332
    I'll have to buy a new fork then to match the hubs/wheels :)

    What number do you ring when you contact Specialized?
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    020 8391 3502
    020 8391 3517 Duncan Cruxton.Customer services.

    Ducan has always been very helpfull/knowledgable.

    I've just spoken to him and the 2010 Rovals are NOT compatible with the fork or the 08/09 converters.They are trying to resolve this.
    Lynskey R480

  • stomith
    stomith Posts: 332
    Cyclestore.co.uk says:

    "Hi there, I have just Rang Specialized and they have some 25mm spacers available so we can add them to the wheels and then they should work with your forks."

    It is all very exciting isn't it. Can it be done...or can't it?

    I've also asked them if they can repeat this process/order if it works, as there might others out there that have the same requirement.
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    According to Specialized UK tech bloke i spoke to the profile of the 2010 hubs is much narrower than the 08/09 so the spacers will definately not fitas the absolute max bolt-thru is 20mm..The Specialized concept store also confirmed this.
    Give him a ring on the above number.
    Lynskey R480

  • stomith
    stomith Posts: 332
    Square Peg. Round Hole.

    They won't fit. Having all the converters, axle, hub & fork in hand everything seems clearer. (yes, I have very big hands!) :)

    Like your man said, the 2010 Rovals are simply too narrow (diameter) to take a 25 mm thru axle. To get a 25mm thru - you'd have to start removing the bearings and inner spacer thing, but then you are into dodgy ground as there just isn't a lot of room left. The 9 and 15 are simple enough and of course it looks like a 20mm-thru out of the box.

    Rovals are quite pretty though. I do like the hubs.

    Back to the drawing board.

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