Have you ever taken PEDs?

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    edited May 2010
    back in the dim distant past

    YES (racing)

    didn't help because I was no bloody good and I was doing it wrong

    ghetto bullshit
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  • shakey88
    shakey88 Posts: 289
    not really a PED but i've been known to have a quick hash pipe before i go out on a training ride :wink:
  • pomtarr
    pomtarr Posts: 318
    shakey88 wrote:
    not really a PED but i've been known to have a quick hash pipe before i go out on a training ride :wink:

    PDDs: Performance Degrading Drugs! Now there's a thought!

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  • cal_stewart
    cal_stewart Posts: 1,840
    i would love to do some kind of testing with full blood doping and EPO back to back against being clean and see what % it gives you.

    I use CLA and Protein. Would say CLA is the best weight loss supplement i've used as a part time boxer i've used alot. Also compression tights are top notch for recovery, they are unbelievably good.
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  • shockedsoshocked
    shockedsoshocked Posts: 4,021
    Cal_Stewart wrote:
    i would love to do some kind of testing with full blood doping and EPO back to back against being clean and see what % it gives you.

    I use CLA and Protein. Would say CLA is the best weight loss supplement i've used as a part time boxer i've used alot. Also compression tights are top notch for recovery, they are unbelievably good.

    http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&l ... &q&f=false

    Makes a good read.
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  • Splottboy
    Splottboy Posts: 3,695
    How bout the "other" way round? For painkilling/sleeping, got me some Tramadol.

    I've had the craziest, weirdest and BEST spookiest dreams/hallucinations...EVER!

    Now I know why Rock Stars, Arty Farty types take drugs!

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  • Squillinossett
    Squillinossett Posts: 1,678
    I have used alot of PEDS in the past due to my Bodybuilding background, but it is not considered cheating as you have two separate competition leagues, tested and un-tested. I took this when I was at a size where natural gains had ground to a halt, and wanting to get much bigger, I was left with one choice. It was not made quickly, and I looked alot into it.

    It is not something I ever decided to hide, as I wanted to try to help break the stereotype linked commonly with people that indulge in the above.

    Not taken any cycling related, nor do I plan to take any, as it is not allowed in any form of competition, so I would consider this cheating.
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  • cal_stewart
    cal_stewart Posts: 1,840
    sh@t up to 9-10%. cheers SSS for the link.
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  • Vino2007
    Vino2007 Posts: 340
    I know alcohol numbed the pain a bit on one foolish 5a.m ride but it also numbed the sense of judgement :oops:
  • shockedsoshocked
    shockedsoshocked Posts: 4,021
    Cal_Stewart wrote:
    sh@t up to 9-10%. cheers SSS for the link.

    You just don't get the benefits of the VO2 max increase either. You'd be able to train harder and more regularly because of being able to recover quicker. I assume this is down to an increased red blood cell count meaning more nutrients to the muscles through the blood stream (may be wrong!)

    I guess this is why you can pretty much spot the people who are juiced as they're the ones relentlessly attacking day in day out.
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  • cal_stewart
    cal_stewart Posts: 1,840
    recovery down to the extra blood cells carrying more waste away
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  • Bakunin
    Bakunin Posts: 868
    I always have good sensations.
  • pedro118118
    pedro118118 Posts: 1,102
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    I think you're missing the point Pedro. I actually rode the best time i've ever done in 5 attempts on that first go, I'd just never ridden a route that hard in that kind of heat, it was just a bit of an eye opener was all.

    Anyway, this isn't about my (lack of) merit as a cyclist, the point I was making was that given that I would class myself as pretty fit, I can imagine why people would raid the over the counter section of a pharmacy for a cyclosportive.

    I didn't want my comments to sound like a personal dig.
    In any event, this is all utterly lost on me.
    The thought of fun riders seeking 'assistance' to clock personal bests in sportive rides is ridiculous.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    as i;m fairly rubbish on flats, hills and descents I did wonder what it would be like.

    The fact that EPO can reduce your heart rate leading to you dying in your sleep put me off. I would rather be rubbish and alive.

    There are stories that in the early days of EPO the pros had to wake up at 2 AM to make sure they stayed alive.

    They are illegal for a reason and taking them without a doctor is never a good idea
  • simon johnson
    simon johnson Posts: 1,064
    DaveyL wrote:
    I've taken ibuprofen with pseudo-ephedrine, one of these flu medications, when I was feeling under the weather before an event a couple of years ago.

    It was legal then (from 2003 it was on the monitoring list but not banned) but pseudo-ephedrine is back on the banned list this year, anything over 150 microgrammes per mL in urine will get you busted. Better just stick to the ibuprofen-only stuff if it happens again! Not that you're likely to get tested in a club '10', but still. :D

    I think the US have passed legislation restricting the right to sell this freely as it's an active ingredient in methamphetamine.....anybody seen 'Breaking Bad'? Recommended:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Breaking-Bad-Se ... 269&sr=8-1
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  • robbiedont
    robbiedont Posts: 89
    There's a legal EPO alternative apparently..

    http://www.epoboost.com
  • shockedsoshocked
    shockedsoshocked Posts: 4,021
    sherer wrote:
    The fact that EPO can reduce your heart rate leading to you dying in your sleep put me off. I would rather be rubbish and alive.

    It's not that it slows your heart rate, it's that the viscosity of the blood at really high red blood cell counts means that it is simply unable to continue to pump the blood at all at lower resting heart rates.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    robbiedont wrote:
    There's a legal EPO alternative apparently..

    http://www.epoboost.com

    yeah I'm sure that works...

    Its a fffed up situation when faux products emulate banned substances because they are perceived as the thing to do...

    do i regret not joining the puffy ankled long tight mob back in the day?... not really

    I thought we decided not to do this anymore
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  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    simon johnson wrote:
    anybody seen 'Breaking Bad'? Recommended:

    +1 recommendation
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    ShockedSoShocked wrote:

    On a serious note, ephidrine, aspirin and caffiene. Weight drops off :twisted: (apparently)


    (ears prick up)

    Really? Tell me more. How many decongestants and aspirins would it take?
    I'm stopping decaff tomorrow.
  • paulcuthbert
    paulcuthbert Posts: 1,016
    Tiger Woods hasn't

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/8662489.stm

    What sort of PED's would you need in Golf anyway? Something to keep you awake maybe.... :lol:
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  • Radioactiveman
    Radioactiveman Posts: 964
    I guess maybe some sort of relaxant would help in golf to take the edge of nerves,but not too much that they lay down and stare at the clouds.
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  • John Stevenson
    John Stevenson Posts: 962
    paulcuthbert wrote:
    Tiger Woods hasn't

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/8662489.stm

    What sort of PED's would you need in Golf anyway? Something to keep you awake maybe.... :lol:

    Sports that need stimulant PEDs for spectators: golf, snooker, darts...
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  • luckao
    luckao Posts: 632
    Someone else said it, there really isn't any feeling like knowing you've done something on your own steam. I've suffered badly at times in many sports - once nearly falling victim to heat exhaustion during a run - but my positive results (not those positives) have more than made up for it.

    It's all about preparation. I know how good I can be when I get that right. Actually doing that is another matter, although I readily accept that there will be times when sport gets the better of me. Shame that professionals haven't got that room for manoeuvre.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    paulcuthbert wrote:
    Tiger Woods hasn't

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/8662489.stm

    What sort of PED's would you need in Golf anyway? Something to keep you awake maybe.... :lol:

    I did read once that there are drugs that can aid concentration and on a four hour round these can come in useful.

    AFAIK there isn't any testing in golf
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    paulcuthbert wrote:
    What sort of PED's would you need in Golf anyway?

    Being able to hit the ball further is an advantage. Therefore, hGH and steroids, a la baseball.
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  • kieranb
    kieranb Posts: 1,674
    this did the rounds a few years ago:

    http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_1.html
  • Hibbs
    Hibbs Posts: 291
    paulcuthbert wrote:
    Tiger Woods hasn't

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/8662489.stm

    What sort of PED's would you need in Golf anyway? Something to keep you awake maybe.... :lol:

    How do we know the performance he wanted to enhance was for golf? :wink:
  • shockedsoshocked
    shockedsoshocked Posts: 4,021
    Tusher wrote:
    ShockedSoShocked wrote:

    On a serious note, ephidrine, aspirin and caffiene. Weight drops off :twisted: (apparently)


    (ears prick up)

    Really? Tell me more. How many decongestants and aspirins would it take?
    I'm stopping decaff tomorrow.

    I'll find out the exact science behind it later on. I've had it explained a couple of times.
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