Replacing the Scale Frame

oldholborn

I have been riding a Scale for several years now.
Sure I like going fast but I want a fun ride.
I am beginning to find the position uncomfortable.
The local terrain is gentle, clay rather than rocks.
Usually on bridlepaths and fire roads.


I am considering buying another frame to build up.
I will be running 100mm Recon forks.
Please suggest a frame!

M1llh0use

just doing the same thing!

opted for an on one 456 summer season. probably right at the other end of the spectrum from the way that the scale rides but fancied something different.

oldholborn

That looks a nice frame.
Love that lemon meringue colour.
I am very tempted to go for the Onone Scandal.
But i dont want a pink one.
What does concern me is That I cant test ride Onone before I buy.

Are there any budget steel frames worth considering?

ride_whenever

The on-ones are very different, if you want to ride it with the same parts i'd wait for the 26" carbon on one inbred (rather than going for the 456 which sounds like massive overkill for your riding)

Bear in mind the scale is an excellent frame, generally scotts seem pretty overpriced because the frames are very high quality, so you will have to spend a fair wad to get a noticable improvement. Howabout a carbon scale frame?

Donnic

What Bar/Stem combo are you running on the scale at the moment?

I know a few people who have swapped the flat bars for a riser bar, and found it makes a huge difference. Plus its a much more cost-effective way of making the ride better.

oldholborn

I am using the stem the bike came with.
I did change the handlebars for risers.
Yes they were more comfortable, just not as fun.
I changed the forks some time ago, really I should have kept some stem and added a few spacers.

My understanding is that the Scale was designed for racing at Athens Olympics.
Therefore should only be ridden for a couple of hours.
When I get on the bike I want to be out for the afternoon at least.

oldholborn

Sorry when I say stem I mean steerer.
So yes Im looking for a frame xc race style.
Less agressive than the Scale.
Possibly steel.
I like some trail buzz.
Just a fun fast ride!

The Spiderman

Scandal is available in black The pink one is the singlespeed slot drop out version.
I assume you want to use gears?

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FROO26SCVD/on-one-scandal-26er-vertical-dropout-frame

supersonic

Why not try a shorter stem, and higher wider bars? Experiment with your position first.

oldholborn

Ah right thanks for that Spider.
I like the idea of having a frame that I can run singlespeed on occasions without using a tensioner.

Since having returned to cycling the Scale is my first bike.
It was either that or the Rockhopper.
Im 5,7 with a 29" leg.
The shop did advise a 17" frame, though I did choose the 15" it gave me a lot more confidence.
Now the rides are getting longer.
The ground is getting rougher and I find myself and I am slowing down due to too much buzz.

I have been constantly playing with the set up.
I am afraid the frame has got to go.
Any frame suggestions?

supersonic

You need to look at the geometry of your frame and compare to a new one.

I am guessing you want a slacker head angle and shorter top tube.

Post the geo of your frame.

oldholborn

Thanks Supersonic!

http://www.scott-sports.com/gb_en/produ ... 1/scale_70

This is the geometry.
I will be using 100mm Recon forks

Yes, I think you know what I mean.

supersonic

Yeah, it has classic XC geometry, pretty similar to my Zaskar.

I'd take a look at the Kona Caldera frame - the head angle is about 68.5 degrees, which should feel much more stable. The top tube length isn't much different, but they have a slack seat angle too so either a smaller frame size or shuffling the saddle forward, and with a shorter stem [as is designed with this bike] and I think your problems will be solved.

This is with a 100mm RS Tora, the same dimensions as your recon.

http://www.konaworld.com/bike.cfm?content=caldera

http://www.cyclelane.co.uk/products.php ... 3378&rs=gb