Fast rolling, grippy on poor roads and very hardy?

guilliano

Can you get all 3? I want something as protective as Conti 4 seasons, as fast as michelin pro race 3 and as grippy as Conti GP4000. Is this possible in a lightweight tyre? I have tried all 3 and like all 3, but the GP4000 were not as well protected as 4 seasons and neither are as smooth and fast rolling as Pro Race 3.

Jimbo.

For fast-rolling and grippy on poor roads, Vittoria Open Paves! Have them on my CAAD9: amazing tyres that exceed all the surrounding hype.
Can't comment on their durability, but given their intended use and the battering they'd end up taking, I'm sure they'd be fine.

relanium

I was going to ask a question like this, because I'm using Conti 4 Seasons at the moment and want a tyre which is light, fast, comfortable on crappy roads & has the protection like the 4 seasons....... Is there such a tyre???

nferrar

I've tried all those 3 as well and my vote goes to Schwalbe Ultremo's as a better option. Waiting on the DD versions to come back in stock atm, I might have been lucky but I got through autumn/winter (08-09) on Ultremo R's and most of the 09 spring to, had to bin the rear after a crash (my fault not the tyre's) damaged the sidewall and the front eventually fell victim to a shard of glass but was nearly worn out anyway. Hopig the DD's are even more resilient and they're only a small weight penalty.

Chip \'oyler

nferrar wrote:

I've tried all those 3 as well and my vote goes to Schwalbe Ultremo's as a better option. Waiting on the DD versions to come back in stock atm, I might have been lucky but I got through autumn/winter (08-09) on Ultremo R's and most of the 09 spring to, had to bin the rear after a crash (my fault not the tyre's) damaged the sidewall and the front eventually fell victim to a shard of glass but was nearly worn out anyway. Hopig the DD's are even more resilient and they're only a small weight penalty.

+1 for Ultremo's.

Mettan

Jimbo. wrote:

Vittoria Open Paves!

+ 1

relanium

Everyone seems to be praising the Schwalbe Ultremo's..... Are these the basic Ultremo's or the R1's?

nferrar

Pretty sure my old ones were R's (the model where they had some faulty ones and did a recall, didn't affect mine though) but if I were buying again now (which I am) I'd go for the DD's unless you just want a race day tyre. The DD's have extra protection on the sidewalls, which with the amount of glass on the roads and cycle lanes around me is worth the small additional weight.

spanielsson

Continental Force/Attack combo. Awesome.

bompington

Force/Attack were great but lasted me about 400 miles, GP4000S are going strong after 1000s and feel fast & grippy (except on the ice this winter!), can't comment on the rest

huuregeil

Going off on a tangent, have you considered running a 25mm tyre? (Assuming you don't already). Very slight weight penalty but feel as fast rolling if not faster, particularly on rough roads, smoother, again particularly on rough roads, and less puncture risk due to increased volume and lower pressures, plus more grip due to bigger contact patch. PR3s in 25mm have settled in as my non-race tyre of choice. Worth trying.

Team Banana Spokesman

have you tried different tyres on the front/back to balance it out a bit?

Wamas

Vredestein Fortezza Tricomp Quattros

Aggieboy

+1 for 4000s. Mine are still going strong after4,500 miles and still have the dimples. Just ordered another pair for £50 for when they do go.

socrates

Has anyone had any trouble with the R.1s

gabriel959

Is there really any other choice than the Vittoria Open Paves?

I’ve had them for about 300 or 400 miles now and they are the most supple, smooth rolling tyre I have ever used. They are also incredibly grippy on wet conditions and durable, the tubular version has been ridden to victory on Paris-Roubaix, what else do you need? Mine are still looking new and hopefully will be for another 2000/3000 miles.

They are definitely a more superior tyre compared to the Conti Attack/Force, which are comfy and grippy but suffer from poor durability IME.

I haven’t tried Ultremos though.

Monty Dog

It depends on your local road conditions, but around here, the likes of Ultremos, PR3 and any race-oriented tyre would be shredded on the first ride because of the tiny, razor-like flints on the road.

Fortezzas are slightly more durable IME, but if I was looking for one tyre, Michelin Krylions, particularly in 25mm is may favoured choice for fast training - fast enough to race, but tough enough for all year use. Currently, you can also find Schwalbe Stelvios at a decent price - the pair I've been running have only punctured once since last year.

Currently, across my bikes I'm running PR3s, Stelvios, Krylions, GP4Seasons, GP4000s, Gatorskins, Veloflex, Vittorias...I have about 10 pairs of wheels

rake

i totaly agree with montydog i rate krylion for best all rounder at not too pricey as well. i use stelvio too which dont get much attension but they are durable tyres.

guilliano

Just bought the Ultremo R.1 HD as my shop had them in stock...... put something in front of me and I'll blindly buy it!

My 4 seasons and PR3 are both 25mm (although the 4 seasons are more like 23's). Will let you know how they go on Beds/Bucks border rides round the Chilterns when they have worn in

relanium

Everyone is rating the Krylion, but there not the lightest tyre at 220g..... Where as the Ultremo weigh something like 180g each.

pabloweaver

Chip \'oyler wrote:

nferrar wrote:

I've tried all those 3 as well and my vote goes to Schwalbe Ultremo's as a better option. Waiting on the DD versions to come back in stock atm, I might have been lucky but I got through autumn/winter (08-09) on Ultremo R's and most of the 09 spring to, had to bin the rear after a crash (my fault not the tyre's) damaged the sidewall and the front eventually fell victim to a shard of glass but was nearly worn out anyway. Hopig the DD's are even more resilient and they're only a small weight penalty.

+1 for Ultremo's.

+1 ( or is it +2 I can never figure it out :? )

got the R1's and had no problem with them at all over some shocking roads.

relanium

Im interested in buying a pair of "Ultremo R1's" but don't want to shell out £50-£60 on tyres and find in a few weeks that their cut to shreads.
Are these really as good as people say?

bigpikle

After seeing about 100 people (no exaggeration) fixing punctures on the side of the road at todays Evans sportive, I'd say that the Gatorskins I and my riding partner were using would be a pretty good bet. At the finish the timing guy told me I was only the 2nd finisher to say they hadnt punctured!

Stuff incredible lightness or rolling resistance. Didnt help those people continually puncturing :twisted:

bobbyp

I rode the Evans Sportif on Schwalbe Stelvio. No punctures but I did go round the pot holes! I felt sorry for the guys riding deep carbon rims on that course, I suspect they'll be looking at large credit card bills next month.

Usually I'd ride Krylion which are a fabulous tyre, never seem to wear or puncture. Highly recommended.