Forks for Orange Five
ftwizard
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I'm in the process of research before attempting my first bike build. With that in mind, could I ask for some recommendations for 140mm travel forks for the Orange Five frame.
I quite like the idea of a 15QR or Maxle set-up, but I'm open to advice.
Thanks in advance.
I quite like the idea of a 15QR or Maxle set-up, but I'm open to advice.
Thanks in advance.
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Fox Float 32 or 36, depending on how hardcore your riding is.
I have a pair of Float R 32's with a Q/R axle & they're fine, a little flexy, but nothing that takes the fun out of riding.
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Andy B nails it, depends what you're going to do with it. If it's to be proper hard hitting then you'll want something fairly beefy but otherwise I'd say a set of Revelation Teams is perfect for most bikes like this. They're a trail/all mountain fork though and a Five with the right kit can do more than that so it just depends what your planning to do.Uncompromising extremist0
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I was leaning towards the Revs, as I've read some reports that infer the Fox's are a little on the flexible side.
I don't and probably never will, do any DH type riding. Mostly trail type stuff, so the Five will be more bike than I need, but who cares what you need, it's what you want that matters?0 -
Revs won the recent WMB shootout.0
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I may be known as the forums Magura Thor "fanboi" but it doesnt stop them being absolutely A-MAY-ZING! they are (IMHO) by far the best 140mm fork available. very stiff, light, and simply awsome performance, with a clever self lubing system that means maintenence is virtually none.
awsome, simply awsome. if you can stump up enough cash, or find them cheap in a sale, or second hand they are worth every penny.
IMHO, the 09 is better than the '10, many reviewers believe this to be the case also.I like bikes and stuff0 -
Re the Thors, wouldn't I be paying for adjustment that I couldn't use. I believe 140mm is the minimum on the Five.
Winstaleys have them for a reasonable price, although they are out of stock!!0 -
you could run from 140-160mm, but 140mm works best on the 5
OnOne had some great value Fox & Rockshox forks on their website
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My mate has 2 sets of Thors, which means that usually one of them is working properly. Apparently they've sorted most of the issues now but they've had horrible reliability, one set was replaced completely and then the replacement broke, I think between them they've been back for repair 5 times in a year. They're ace when they work but not, I think, as good as the blackbox Revs.Uncompromising extremist0
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true, but the travel adjust is not so much a travel adjust as u-turn is, as a lock down for climbing really steep stuff and for really tight stuff. you wouldnt leave it short for long....ftwizard wrote:Re the Thors, wouldn't I be paying for adjustment that I couldn't use. I believe 140mm is the minimum on the Five.
Winstaleys have them for a reasonable price, although they are out of stock!!
another (slightly weighty) option is the Wotan, stuppidly stiff, mental strong, awsome performance (same internals as the thor's) and 160mm adjutable down to 120mm
but really, the thors are amazing.I like bikes and stuff0 -
that suprises me! iv heard nothing but posotive about the reliablity of the thors.... mine have been very solid and reliable thats for sure.Northwind wrote:My mate has 2 sets of Thors, which means that usually one of them is working properly. Apparently they've sorted most of the issues now but they've had horrible reliability, one set was replaced completely and then the replacement broke, I think between them they've been back for repair 5 times in a year. They're ace when they work but not, I think, as good as the blackbox Revs.
magura back up is second to none as well, and they are pretty easy to self service.
as to wether they are better than the rev BBMMC's i cant say, as i havent used the BB revs, but i would have thought that the thors would be pretty hard to beat... they are certainly better than the normal MC revs...I like bikes and stuff0 -
Their backup was brilliant to be fair, they got the repairs and replacement sorted out so fast, and when the travel adjuster broke they got a replacement to him the next day. So I was impressed by that... Agree they're a little better than moco Revs when set up right (fiddlier to set up though don't you think?)
Very tempted by a set of Wotans for the Hemlock...Uncompromising extremist0 -
your right... set up is a pain in the but. the damping is fine, set the reboud, and set the threshold on the compression, which can then be turned on or off.Northwind wrote:Their backup was brilliant to be fair, they got the repairs and replacement sorted out so fast, and when the travel adjuster broke they got a replacement to him the next day. So I was impressed by that... Agree they're a little better than moco Revs when set up right (fiddlier to set up though don't you think?)
Very tempted by a set of Wotans for the Hemlock...
the spring is a fiddle though, you have to keep turning the Flight controle knob or push the lever (if using remote) throughout presurising... and the sweet spot is a reall fine line, and takes ages to find.. and the recomended pressures are a joke... BUT be patient and they are amazing! too little air and they dive, too much and they feel dead and rough, but get it right and they are soo suple and really well controled. the first few times out were crazy, i thought i had a flat tyre, or somin, they were just so smooth, they actually remove bumps. the only thing i had to complain was that they made the Hard tail feel extra hard...
the Wotans are suposed to be amazing. the thors are sooo stiff the wotans are likely to be totaly surgical! and from what iv heard they are alot easyer to set up.. a bit less pressure sensitive.
and they totaly out class the normal revs.. they just do.I like bikes and stuff0 -
I'm getting the feeling here, that the Rev Teams are a pretty safe bet. Do they come with a 15QR or Maxle type set up, or just normal 9mm QR?0
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I would take a look at the Fox Floats at on one for 300 quid.
Get a 9mm conversion for your hubs (I aam assuming you can get this since you were going to get a 20mm maxle) and a 9mm QR from superstar for 8 quid
Forks - http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FOFOFOX32/fox-32-float-140-rl-suspension-forks-
QR - http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=286
QR is out of stock at the moment but the ordinary QR will do untill June, you may decide you don't need the 9mm one0 -
why? you could a rev with a maxle for not much more... the maxle is infinately better than the QR in every way, and the fork is better overall.peter413 wrote:I would take a look at the Fox Floats at on one for 300 quid.
Get a 9mm conversion for your hubs (I aam assuming you can get this since you were going to get a 20mm maxle) and a 9mm QR from superstar for 8 quid
Forks - http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FOFOFOX32/fox-32-float-140-rl-suspension-forks-
QR - http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=286
QR is out of stock at the moment but the ordinary QR will do untill June, you may decide you don't need the 9mm one
get a thor or a rev with a MaxleI like bikes and stuff0 -
I don't have any parts yet, just research at this point, so prices don't really matter. By the time I buy, they'll have changed anyway.
Thanks everyone for the input so far.
Any thoughts on the rest of the components, wheels, chainset, headset, bars etc
I have brakes and shifters already, but the rest is open for debate.0 -
joshtp/mbukman wrote:the maxle is infinately better than the QR in every way, and the fork is better overall.
The forks are about the same and the Maxle is not infanatly better.
Some people can't even tell a difference between QR and a Maxle.0 -
ftwizard wrote:I don't have any parts yet, just research at this point, so prices don't really matter. By the time I buy, they'll have changed anyway.
Thanks everyone for the input so far.
Any thoughts on the rest of the components, wheels, chainset, headset, bars etc
I have brakes and shifters already, but the rest is open for debate.
Need to know what kind of riding you are doing and what size of bars/stem you like0 -
joshtp/mbukman, would you recommend Maxle front and rear then?0
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peter413 wrote:Some people can't even tell a difference between QR and a Maxle.
You'd almost certainly feel the difference between a rev with a maxle and a 32 with a QR, tbh most people would feel the difference in stiffness between a QR rev and a QR 32 never mind if you add a maxle.Uncompromising extremist0 -
Northwind wrote:peter413 wrote:Some people can't even tell a difference between QR and a Maxle.
You'd almost certainly feel the difference between a rev with a maxle and a 32 with a QR, tbh most people would feel the difference in stiffness between a QR rev and a QR 32 never mind if you add a maxle.
I know my 32's are 6 years old and are only 100mm but I can't tell much difference between your maxle revs and my QR 'flexy' F1000 -
You've never ridden my maxle revs The Soul has QR ones. Uncompromising extremist0
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Northwind wrote:You've never ridden my maxle revs The Soul has QR ones.
Fine then :roll:
Still couldn't feel a difference TBH so they are not really stiffer IMO since mine are not as stiff as the new Fox's
EDIT: Just realised I have ridden maxel Revs and again, couldn't really tell much difference, nothing to shout about anyway0 -
ftwizard wrote:joshtp/mbukman, would you recommend Maxle front and rear then?
yes, i would. they are stiffer, stronger and (this is the big one for me, esp on the back) way more secure. on the front at least i would get it. even if you dont notice the stiffness diference (and i think you will) its stronger and safer and just more secure.I like bikes and stuff0 -
I wouldn't stress about it too much myself. But if you've got the choice then maxle front certainly makes sense, if you don't then use whichever.Uncompromising extremist0
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Why the revs? For the money they are the the lightest, stiffest [for the weight] and most adjustable fork you can get, with the best damper.0
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So, is it worth the extra for Teams over Race. What's the difference?0
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ftwizard wrote:So, is it worth the extra for Teams over Race. What's the difference?
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