On One 456 frame

Andy

OK so my review so far.

The paint is poorly applied and thin in places and it chips ridiculously easily. The bottom bracket threads need totally recutting and cleaning and the BB and disc brake mounts need facing. The drop outs seem poorly made and misshapen and the wheel does not go into and out of the frame cleanly as a result. The paint on the forks is also bad, thin around the edges and doesnt look like it will last long,

So based on the quality of the frame and fork so far, I would totally recommend looking elsewhere for your new frame.

peter413

Dammit.

Any idea if the summer season is any better?

Really want the option of getting a 456 if I can't afford a Chameleon

Andy

Not a clue. This is my first experience of On One frames but based on this, I would say avoid if possible.

jpstar

Balls... looks like It'll be a merlin then :?

lugsey2k5

mates just recently built a 456 up and the paint is gash on it scratched off his shorts rubbing already after 2 rides. i know there cheap but should still have decent standards

Anonymous

what do you expect for a cheap pile of 9 pipes welded together?

Andy

11*

jay12

peter413 wrote:

Dammit.

Any idea if the summer season is any better?

Really want the option of getting a 456 if I can't afford a Chameleon

try to find a kinesis pha5e,ragley blue pig or a cove stifee. you can get them all used for quite cheap

Anonymous

Andy wrote:

11*

oh aye, i forgot about the pile of metal work around the seat stay seat tube junction

peter413

jay12 wrote:

peter413 wrote:

Dammit.

Any idea if the summer season is any better?

Really want the option of getting a 456 if I can't afford a Chameleon

try to find a kinesis pha5e,ragley blue pig or a cove stifee. you can get them all used for quite cheap

They are the three bikes I have crossed off the list :roll:

The Northern Monkey

Andy wrote:

OK so my review so far.

The paint is poorly applied and thin in places and it chips ridiculously easily. The bottom bracket threads need totally recutting and cleaning and the BB and disc brake mounts need facing. The drop outs seem poorly made and misshapen and the wheel does not go into and out of the frame cleanly as a result. The paint on the forks is also bad, thin around the edges and doesnt look like it will last long,

So based on the quality of the frame and fork so far, I would totally recommend looking elsewhere for your new frame.

lol.

My scandal was already scratched/chipped when I 1st got it.
Sent it back for another and, like you, wasn't totally happy with the finishing so I sold it on.

Edit: that an the fact that the staff at On-One are a bunch of w@nkers.

You do get what you pay for sometimes.

Northwind

Finishing on my Scandal was spot on... Finish on a mate's Inbred looks like it was done with tippex. But otoh, it costs £40 to get a frame powdercoated to top standards and you've still got a bargainous frame. A lot of companies still consider BB facing to be an extra, I guess it's true that not everyone uses an external bottom bracket but most people do so it's a bit of a nasty corner to cut.

I'd still say myself, that to fix all your complaints will still leave the frame costing less than many equivalent frames, but you shouldn't have to.

cat_with_no_tail

Agree about the paint. The coat on mine is even enough, but it chips/scratches FAR more easily than I'd expect, even for a budget frame.

It's almost a shame because the frame itself is a really nice ride.

Andy

I can get it all done free. Point is, as you say I shouldnt have to! The BB facing isnt even really a problem and I accept many frames will need to be faced but the threads on the shell shouldnt need to be re-tapped!

Northwind

Yup. If they can't make the frame for the price they should do it right and charge more. To be fair to them an awful lot of people have On Ones and don't have this problem but that doesn't help you.

stevet1992

Scared the shite out of me when i first install the BB on my old 456 ... A load of strands of what i thought was metal came out ... turns out it was just paint in the threads

Over then that no complaints ... Paint was alright but nothing to dance about,

mickedwards61

I recently attempted to buy a frame from On - One, sent them a couple of emails asking for a few details and quoted a few specs from their site, didn't get a reply for a few days. When I did get a reply, they told me they didn't know where I got the spec information from, I replied telling them "from your website" and the reply I got was


"thats what you get when the web guy knows nothing about bikes......

i'll have him shot and get it put right"


No apology for the incorrect information of anything like that, yeah I understand the guy was trying to be funny etc but I expect better service than that. Or am I being a tad oversensitive?

I ended up buying a different cheaper frame, which I didn't want to do, but couldn't afford anything more expensive frame wise and the service I got elsewhere was much better.

big_southern_jesse

Seems you have been unlucky Andy. I gave my Inbred a real close inspection this morning as I cleaned it, thinking about adding some heli tape for the down tube and bottom bracket. I couldn't find any scratches or failures in the paint at all. Now 3 months of running on dirt and flint tracks, still all seems fine, although I may have just destroyed the bottom bracket! - Haven't had time to investigate that yet...
Service seemed fairly reasonable to me too.

Oh, and incidentally.... The Crudcatcher? Any mods around here to move this to a suitable forum? :oops:

Northwind

mickedwards61 wrote:

"thats what you get when the web guy knows nothing about bikes......i'll have him shot and get it put right"


No apology for the incorrect information of anything like that, yeah I understand the guy was trying to be funny etc but I expect better service than that. Or am I being a tad oversensitive?

I think I'd have taken that in the spirit it was intended tbh. I remember when I was about to get my Scandal, I emailed with some questions about geometry and running it with a 130mm fork, very quickly got a reply from Brant, "Don't worry too much about it, it'll be great, though of course that's exactly what you'd expect me to say" or words to that effect. Which wasn't totally helpful but I had to smile. Seems like even though he's moved on the ethos remains

kona_matt

Big Southern Jesse wrote:

Oh, and incidentally.... The Crudcatcher? Any mods around here to move this to a suitable forum? :oops:

I believe OP (Andy) is a mod?!

Gutted to hear a bad review about the 456. I really want one, not that I could afford a build, keeping the Kona on the trails in good working order is tough enough ATM.

big_southern_jesse

kona_matt wrote:

Big Southern Jesse wrote:

Oh, and incidentally.... The Crudcatcher? Any mods around here to move this to a suitable forum? :oops:

I believe OP (Andy) is a mod?!

Hence the tongue in cheek blush and grin!

kona_matt

Big Southern Jesse wrote:

kona_matt wrote:

Big Southern Jesse wrote:

Oh, and incidentally.... The Crudcatcher? Any mods around here to move this to a suitable forum? :oops:

I believe OP (Andy) is a mod?!

Hence the tongue in cheek blush and grin!

ah, yeah, fair enough.

rubins4

Sorry Andy, paint on mine seems ok. No defects in the paint work, and the back axles slots in as it should. Still hasnt been built up yet, so dont know how well the paint will resist chipping, so no comment there. The BB threads were ok too (I've put a UN54 in there for the time being so not worried about facing).

Didn't you have little stickers over the IS mount to stop paint getting on the caliper mounting face? Sounds like you got a 'friday afternoon frame'.

Andy

After expressing my concerns via email to On One, they have emailed me back. Will report back with my results

peter413

plz do

Heres hoping for a good result

rowlers

rubins4 wrote:

Sorry Andy, paint on mine seems ok. No defects in the paint work, and the back axles slots in as it should. Still hasnt been built up yet, so dont know how well the paint will resist chipping, so no comment there. The BB threads were ok too (I've put a UN54 in there for the time being so not worried about facing).

Didn't you have little stickers over the IS mount to stop paint getting on the caliper mounting face? Sounds like you got a 'friday afternoon frame'.

I've only good things to say about my Inbred too. paint is very decent, threads are all OK. I'd have another!

Duffer

I've not got a bad word to say about my 456. Perhaps the paint isn't as good as it could be, but i'm only going to crash it anyway.

The bottom line is, good design doesn't cost money - if you want a quality finish, you'd better get your wallet out and buy a Cotic/Ragley/Chameleon ect. If you want a cheap, well designed frame, you could do a lot worse than an On-One.

Chaz.Harding

Duffer wrote:

I've not got a bad word to say about my 456. Perhaps the paint isn't as good as it could be, but i'm only going to crash it anyway.

The bottom line is, good design doesn't cost money - if you want a quality finish, you'd better get your wallet out and buy a Cotic/Ragley/Chameleon ect. If you want a cheap, well designed frame, you could do a lot worse than an On-One.

Yes, this is true.

Well, sorta... Obviously good design doesn't cost money itself, but it's the R&D, computers, time spent doing maths, employing scientists to do the shock rate equations, work out tensile strengths etc etc etc, that does. Then theres the material costs too - better quality costs more. Hence why well designed bikes / shocks / forks / components cost more money.

Anyway, I digress. If you get a 456 / Inbred (I have a red Inbred, and it's ace, thanks) and get it powdercoated, disc mount faced, and BB re-tapped, you'd still have a great value frame, with an ace frame finish, in just about any design you could wish for....

So stop whinging!

You really think that you can pay £145 (or whatever it is now) and get a sorted design frame, from a British company, AND have a really high quality frame finish... You must be on crack! (Especially with the moneys in the UK all broked... :roll: )

spongtastic

paint on my Barry White inbred is pretty good, bit rubbed and as they used to say on the website it does 'bleed' a bit on the top tube.

Had a problem with s**t threads on the mech hanger though, had to get them recut.

But for £115 I still love it.

carbonfiend

second all that about On One I sound like a broken recrord going on about my Scandal but for £250 I have to admit I dont give a shite what it looks like but it handles like a dream, if I want perfect handling and amazing bling I'll get on the S Works. Love the attitude and essence of them, sounds like you been a bit unlucky as even with such good value in mind and the general On One vibe you shouldnt have got such a bum sounding bike. When I got my Scandal they sent me a 29er by mistake they arranged pick up of it and delivery of proper size in no time at all straight to my door so my experience of customer service has been spot on as well

cat_with_no_tail

carbonfiend wrote:

second all that about On One I sound like a broken recrord going on about my Scandal but for £250 I have to admit I dont give a shite what it looks like but it handles like a dream, if I want perfect handling and amazing bling I'll get on the S Works. Love the attitude and essence of them, sounds like you been a bit unlucky as even with such good value in mind and the general On One vibe you shouldnt have got such a bum sounding bike. When I got my Scandal they sent me a 29er by mistake they arranged pick up of it and delivery of proper size in no time at all straight to my door so my experience of customer service has been spot on as well

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