it was confusing before!

joshtp

http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/news/artic ... neup-25772

ok, so what is the point of the sid now, or alternately, the reba?

from what i can work out:

Sid is top end XC/ v.light trail, then the reba is middle price, recon race/team etc is next then tora sl/team/race is the budget

Revelation is top end light long travel,(AM)Then the Sector is like a longer Reba, sitting above the recons but below the rev's, its also a testing platform for the QR15. but then the numbred (318...) recons sit below, and the numbred tora's below that.

The pike is like a rev but heavyer and stronger and stiffer (only a bit though) which puts it more definitvely in the AM area.
the Argyle is like a short Pike for DJ/4X

The Domain is a budget Totem, and the lyric is like a cross between a totem and a REV, kind of long travel AM, short travel freeridde. the new Domain thripple is like a budget Boxxer, which is that all out race fork, but its more for freeride.


the Dart is just Crap

There are probaly more, i just dont know them

then all these are split up into numbers, and names EG race, team, 318,335...
then they all have options, like solo air, dual air, coil, uturn, MC, BBMC.

how confusing is the RS range!!?!?!?
its lke a joke!

handful

joshtp/mbukman wrote:

http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/news/article/rockshox-adds-long-travel-sid-to-lineup-25772
how confusing is the RS range!!?!?!?
!

I'm confused after reading that

ride_whenever

I think they're going to drop a fair few forks pretty soon.

I'd guess the pike and reba will probably along with a few more.

Northwind

Pike definately needs some love. There isn't an air rev any more is there? So maybe a 150mm springy blackbox Pike or something. But as it is, it's pretty antique. Reba's starting to look pretty pointles though maybe they could call that a hardcore short travel fork or something, the reba maxle still works really well in a 120mm bike.

bike-a-swan

Clear as mud! Although I reckon they should keep the SID as a racers fork only. Then the Reba (or equivalent) for the short trail, Rev as the long trail, Lyrik and so on up the progression to downhill. The other forks fulfil the various budget ranges. With the sektor covering the trail market I think something will come in for the short travel lot, and a few of the existing ones at the lower level will be dropped.

KitsuneAndy

Northwind wrote:

Pike definitely needs some love. There isn't an air rev any more is there? So maybe a 150mm springy blackbox Pike or something. But as it is, it's pretty antique. Reba's starting to look pretty pointles though maybe they could call that a hardcore short travel fork or something, the reba maxle still works really well in a 120mm bike.

I thought all of the revs were air now? I've got the 2010 Rev Race and they're dual air

supersonic

The RS website shows all current forks and describes the options well.

Northwind

KitsuneAndy wrote:

I thought all of the revs were air now? I've got the 2010 Rev Race and they're dual air

Apart from the bit where I said "isn't" instead of "is only" I was spot on though :oops:

Seems to me that Pikes are mainly for people who should be buying Revs but are deluded into thinking they're too hardcore for "trail forks" So that's a genuine niche.

RealMan

I bought revs cause I couldn't see the point in pikes. They're just revs that have been made heavier, it seems.

supersonic

And stiffer, stronger - less likely to break.

RealMan

Never seen a pair of broken revs. They're not exactly made of cardboard either.

This whole stronger forks are better thing, what's with that. I don't think I've ever seen a broken pair of suspension forks. I can accept the stiffer argument, but does the weight warrant it?

supersonic

I've seen dozens of broken pairs of forks. Pikes will take more abuse, simple as that.

Revs don't break when used for the intended terrain.

RealMan

supersonic wrote:

I've seen dozens of broken pairs of forks. Pikes will take more abuse, simple as that.

Of suspension forks? And not ones off £50 halfords bikes that have been left out in the rain for months?

I just searched on google and could only turn up one result of a broken fork http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/p ... n_fork.JPG

Pretty nasty. But I really doubt many people out there are using their pikes in a way that a rev wouldn't be able to handle.

Northwind

Yup, but these days more and more the bigger forks are coming down in price and the lengths are creeping up so a hardcore fork that's "only" 140mm is kind of falling between. Never had a set in my hands but according to the bikeradar review Lyrik 2steps are only 2.46lbs so barely more than a Pike, frinstance. And the pricing isn't great either. What I'm saying basically is that it's been left behind and a lot of people buy them for the wrong reasons when they'd be fine with a revelation. Which is a shame because there's no doubt they could make a better Pike if they bothered.

supersonic

Boxxers, Pikes, SIDS... pretty much them all.

RealMan

You've seen a broken boxxer? Surely it must be a complete clown of a rider doing something ridiculously stupid to break those.

Anonymous

All I know is I have reba race, and would love some sid teams with poploc, or if they do it, hydraulic lockout switch thing