How to fix loose front sprocket and loose handlebar?

raymccoy
raymccoy Posts: 3
edited April 2010 in The workshop
I acquired a couple of months ago a 8 months old 2nd hand bicycle, an Ammaco Madeira.

It was just 50 pounds, and even if it was not in the best of conditions, I thought that just by changing the brake pads, inner tubes and one wheel cover would be OK.

It was indeed OK for a while after making those fixes, but now the bike is getting worse each time I use it. I try to commute to work with it but it's getting harder and more annoying every day (4 miles to and out of central London).

First, the sprocket -pedals block (forget my lack of proper terminology, I'm a noob when it comes to bike mechanics, but trying to learn!) is a bit loose, and getting looser every day. This is very annoying (feels unstable) when pedalling, makes the chain skip sometimes and in fact snapped my chain recently, which I had to replace. This is a video to make it clear:

http://yfrog.us/28dsc00085z

Is there a way I can fix this by myself? I have basic tools only, but I could buy some new ones if they are not too expensive and completely necessary.

Second, the handlebar is also getting loose at the T-joint. This is due to the metal itself getting dented with the use, as the screws are already tightened to their maximum. I suppose that adding some kind of rubber layer between the metal pieces would fix it, but I don't know if I can buy a special cut exactly for this or should I do it by myself MacGyver style. Again, a little illustrative video:

http://yfrog.us/5mdsc00087z


I would take it to a mechanic if really necessary, but given that:
1) The two bike shops around my area are closed in the morning when I go to work, and closed again by the time I'm back home, and closed during weekends.
2) I work in central London so the mechanics in that area are very expensive.
3) This bike costs new around 180 pounds, and with the fixes I have done to it the 50 pounds that I paid initally are quickly getting close to those 180 pounds. It makes me feel a bit like a moron :notamused: so I want to fix it for as little as possible.

I would prefer to do this by myself. It's educational too :)

Thank you very much for any help!

Comments

  • Salsa
    Salsa Posts: 753
    It looks like both crank arms are moving left/right ? Or is it just the right crank arm that's moving?
    If it's just the drive side crank that's moving either it's come loose & just needs tightening, or it's rounded off the joint & the crank needs replacing.

    If both arms are moving your bottom bracket bearings have failed, you can either replace them (£4) or upgrade the bb to a sealed unit (£10-£25).
    Either get a shop to do it or buy the following tools, 14mm socket/crank extractor/C-spanner/16mm bb spanner/fixed cup wrench. Once you take it out you may find the axle has become very worn from running failed bearings in which case a sealed bb is worth getting (this involves buying another tool).
    All those tools are expensive unless you want to re-use them in the future so it's better to take it to a shop. Also this is a part that tends to get very stuck & you may find cheap tools are not strong enough to remove the bb & you will again have to get a shop to do it.

    With your stem check the underneath & you should find another bolt that holds a wedge, tighten this.

    I would defiantly take it to a shop & get a mechanic to give their opinion though.
  • raymccoy
    raymccoy Posts: 3
    Both crank arms, along with the sprockets, are indeed moving, so it must be a bearings problem then.

    I will take it to a shop then, I was aware that there are special tools needed for the crank area only. As I own just this bike I don't think it will be worth my while to buy them just to use them once a year!

    I'll check the stem underneath and see if there's something to tighten there.

    Thank you for your directions, very helpful! :)
  • Salsa
    Salsa Posts: 753
    No problem, if after tightening the wedge underneath the stem it still moves you could try taking it apart.They normally have notches that lock together so you can't put a bit of rubber in, it's worth checking though. I would personally just replace it if the notches are worn.
    Ask at the shop if they have a slighty tatty used one they can do for cheap as most shops have old spares lying about.
  • el_presidente
    el_presidente Posts: 1,963
    I'd get that stem sorted asap, you wouldn't want it failing altogether while you were riding. I would think a bikeshop could change it for maybe £20 if as Salsa said they have a cheapo one knocking about. Might not be adjustable but that shouldn't be a problem.
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    yep there should be a bolt under the stem to tighten.

    re the cranks it is hard to see how you are moving it but it does look like the crank bolt needs tightening.
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  • desweller
    desweller Posts: 5,175
    Looking at the bottom bracket, it looks like the left cup is not screwed in fully, which would explain the play in the cranks.
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