how to ride 'dips' like at llandegla??

dazed01

no idea what they are called but at the top of llandegla, the first bit of singletrack has a fair few of these quick up and down dips - think ive heard them being referred to like a rollercoaster somewhere.

how do you ride these??? i struggle with some of the ones further down the red trail that throw the back end of the bike up and chuck me off the pedals occasionally.

anyone got some tips for these??

jpstar

Not been there, but if you mean bombholes or somethign similar, try pumping them for speed and stand up maybe if your having difficulty?

The Northern Monkey

You mean the berm section? Kinda snakes down the hill to where it splits between red/blue routes?

andituk

Just before the blue splits off and you open out into the felled area? Thats "The Rollercoaster"

The idea is to pump them like a pump track I think..

lesz42

the last , feels like i will go over the bars, tis fun,




but the braking bumps dont help

nonnac85

pump them as if it was a pump track section.

Just ride over the braking bumps - and dont brake on them!

lesz42

does my head in, when riders skid for no reason, ok if you have to stop fast

but i see it a lot, noobs


some bad ones at the last berm at llandegla,

stumpyjon

Stand up and let the bike come up into you as you go over the high bits and then stretch out to let the bike drop into the hollows. Keep your body at the same height and let the bike go up and down.

Jedi

pumping is the basic technique for all other mtb techniques.
it forms the basis of drops jumps,bunny hops etc..

bails87

Pumping?

Thewaylander

Do you pump with your left hand or right?

Jedi

yes, pumping or using the energy in the trail

bails87

I just thought that as a beginner, the OP may want a bit more explanation/definition of 'pumping'.

I suppose stumpyjon pretty much covered it, let the bike move around you. So bend your arms as the handlebars come up. Then as the front drops, extend your arms, bend your legs and lean back so your body isn't tipped forwards

Jedi

no you dont bend your arms when the bars come towards you or you let go of the stored energy

dazed01

i found this on youtube just after posting this thread which makes a lot of sense..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9cwoQpRUqo

bails87

Jedi wrote:

no you dont bend your arms when the bars come towards you or you let go of the stored energy

So keep your arms locked as the bars come up? :?

But then when the front of the bike drops you can't compensate for it, surely?

You can, and stop calling me Shirley....

nonnac85

You push down the downslope to get extra speed from the trail.

Try going really slow then pushing the bars forward and the bike will move forward further than if you just pedalled / coasted at the speed you are going.

bails87

nonnac85 wrote:

You push down the downslope to get extra speed from the trail.

Try going really slow then pushing the bars forward and the bike will move forward further than if you just pedalled / coasted at the speed you are going.

That's what I thought, but you couldn't push down into the trail if your arms are already straight.

richg1979

basicly as you reach the crest oth the hump, pump the bars downwards to try and keep the front wheel on the ground and you will also gather more speed with out pedaling.

dazed01

might be answering my own question now but from what i gather you are basically forcing the bike to track the ground accurately rather than letting it bounce up off the trail ???
which i guess should keep momentum and speed without being thrown up off the bike??

richg1979

exactly, your pumping the bike to keep it planted on the ground.

stumpyjon

Depends on what you want to do. It's fine telling a beginner they need to pump the trail for speed but if all they want is to be able to ride a rollery section without being kicked off then allowing the bike to come up into you is what you want to do. if you're more confident then by all means pump the trail, but it's not an ideal beginners skill.

Where are my stabilisers?

I can "pump".... I pump everything because I'm too bloody scared to jump :shock:

The Northern Monkey

why don't you joining the crudcatcher ride on the 24th and we'll show you how not to ride them

Jedi

pumping is the basis of all techniques

bails87

bigbenj_08 wrote:

why don't you joining the crudcatcher ride on the 24th and we'll show you how not to ride them

What ride?!

The Northern Monkey

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... highlight=

bails87

bigbenj_08 wrote:

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12694361&highlight=

well if it was actually in the crudcatcher....

Cheers though

The Northern Monkey

bails87 wrote:

bigbenj_08 wrote:

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12694361&highlight=

well if it was actually in the crudcatcher....

Cheers though

yeeaaaaa... it got moved for some reason