Ebay item not as described question

stubs

I ordered some Class 6 Micro Sd cards off this page on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230327923391&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123

It definitely shows the Class 6 mark in the photo. When the cards finally arrived they didnt look anything like the cards in the photo no Class 6 markings on them. I sent them an email asking for a pair of the correct class 6 cards and they replied saying I should start testing them. What so if I buy a car that says it has a 2.0 litre engine then when it arrives with no markings I should start measuring the engine :?

Not really an expert on ebay usually use Amazon but that day I couldnt log onto the site for some reason. So I went to ebay as I was in a rush.

Have I got a good case for asking for a refund I really dont want to start testing these cards
1, I am not very up on computers and wouldnt know a fast card from a slow one
2, I dont want to start downloading stuff off the internet to do the test
3, I just want what I ordered

big_barker

hi mate if you payed through paypal then log into your paypal acc, go to resoloution centre and open a new claim, not as described and you should get a refund that way.

blister pus

That's where they've got you by the balls and I said time and again in the main thread you should only buy reputable brands that have a track record in memory tech. That said, they say returns accepted and it's not down to you to prove they are the stated specification. Return them if they are totally different from the one advertised. I think you'll find ebay / paypal will back you up should you need that (doubt it).

stubs

big barker wrote:

hi mate if you payed through paypal then log into your paypal acc, go to resoloution centre and open a new claim, not as described and you should get a refund that way.

Cheers didnt know I could do that :oops:

bramstoker

To be honest if they work is there a problem? But if they differ from the photo then you can say the item is not as advertised and open a dispute with paypal (if you paid with paypal).
To be quite honest ive sold a bit on ebay, and if you dont want the item just open a dispute, paypal seems to side with the buyer 99.9% of the time, even if its just a case of buyers remorse.
If they work just use them, you cant expect branded items from ebay at the prices they are charging. I think thats why theres some complaints about ebay (not saying you personaly), people buy a bottle of channel no5 for £2.50 and a old button and then wonder why it smells like cats pee.

stubs

blister pus wrote:

That's where they've got you by the balls and I said time and again in the main thread you should only buy reputable brands that have a track record in memory tech. That said, they say returns accepted and it's not down to you to prove they are the stated specification. Return them if they are totally different from the one advertised. I think you'll find ebay will back you up should you need that (doubt it).

I was in a rush that day and didnt do any research. My fault totally never bought memory from ebay before in the past always bought Sandisk off Amazon

BigStu2

Yeah, to hell with ebay I say, I bought my daughter a Megalodon tooth for christmas, meant to be 20 million years old but I tell you it didn't look a day over 17 million, false advertising at its worst.

cat_with_no_tail

bramstoker wrote:

To be honest if they work is there a problem?

+ Potato

Have you tested the card to see if it is indeed a class 6 just without the markings? If so, and it is, what's the problem?

blister pus

Cat With No Tail wrote:

bramstoker wrote:

To be honest if they work is there a problem?

+ Potato

Because the cheap unbranded ones break or die easily and more often than not you don't get anywhere near the advertised transfer rates and the 'class' becomes even more irrelevant.

acidstrato

blister pus wrote:

Cat With No Tail wrote:

bramstoker wrote:

To be honest if they work is there a problem?

+ Potato

Because the cheap unbranded ones break or die easily and more often than not you don't get anywhere near the advertised transfer rates and the 'class' becomes even more irrelevant.

and yet the advert mentions no brand or retail packaging and only claims to be class 6 speed rating which it probably is. caveat emptor. If its not then fair enough thats the only false advertising and it should be exchanged or refunded


reminds me of an article in the sun by jeremy clarkson yesterday which described how we have become so PC that we take things for granted so wrappers on "Snickers More Nuts" need a little footnote stating this product may contain nuts.

if there had been a footnote stating "picture for illustration purposes only" this thread wouldnt exist.

cat_with_no_tail

acidstrato wrote:

blister pus wrote:

Cat With No Tail wrote:

bramstoker wrote:

To be honest if they work is there a problem?

+ Potato

Because the cheap unbranded ones break or die easily and more often than not you don't get anywhere near the advertised transfer rates and the 'class' becomes even more irrelevant.

and yet the advert mentions no brand or retail packaging and only claims to be class 6 speed rating which it probably is. caveat emptor. If its not then fair enough thats the only false advertising and it should be exchanged or refunded

Exactly, if it was advertised as a Transcend class 6, or Sandisk or whatever, then fair enough, but it was just advertised as a class 6 card. If it's a class 6 card that's turned up, wheres the beef?

blister pus

Cat With No Tail wrote:

acidstrato wrote:

blister pus wrote:

Cat With No Tail wrote:

bramstoker wrote:

To be honest if they work is there a problem?

+ Potato

Because the cheap unbranded ones break or die easily and more often than not you don't get anywhere near the advertised transfer rates and the 'class' becomes even more irrelevant.

and yet the advert mentions no brand or retail packaging and only claims to be class 6 speed rating which it probably is. caveat emptor. If its not then fair enough thats the only false advertising and it should be exchanged or refunded

Exactly, if it was advertised as a Transcend class 6, or Sandisk or whatever, then fair enough, but it was just advertised as a class 6 card. If it's a class 6 card that's turned up, wheres the beef?

Except I was talking in general terms - and it still holds true that what is advertised from un branded cards is generally not what you get and on top of that the dubious life of them makes them a crap buy compared to a branded one - and that goes right through the flash tech cards and sticks. And i know this because of the rate I go through them in working life.

The Northern Monkey

acidstrato wrote:

blister pus wrote:

Cat With No Tail wrote:

bramstoker wrote:

To be honest if they work is there a problem?

+ Potato

Because the cheap unbranded ones break or die easily and more often than not you don't get anywhere near the advertised transfer rates and the 'class' becomes even more irrelevant.

and yet the advert mentions no brand or retail packaging and only claims to be class 6 speed rating which it probably is. caveat emptor. If its not then fair enough thats the only false advertising and it should be exchanged or refunded


reminds me of an article in the sun by jeremy clarkson yesterday which described how we have become so PC that we take things for granted so wrappers on "Snickers More Nuts" need a little footnote stating this product may contain nuts.

if there had been a footnote stating "picture for illustration purposes only" this thread wouldnt exist.

Agreed!

Just looks like a generic photo... but if they're class 6, they're class 6.
If you wanted a guarantee they are "proper" or "faster" cards.... you should have bough proper branded ones for a bit more ££.

Sounds like someone is just a bit pissed because they *might* have made a silly cheapskate mistake!

blister pus

^ same goes to you, as above.

The Northern Monkey

blister pus wrote:

^ same goes to you, as above.

Sooo... whats the problem? i said buy branded for more money, which I think you're agreeing with... :?

blister pus

I'm doin g 10 things at once here Benj and speed reading ain't a string point.

stubs

bigbenj_08 wrote:

Sounds like someone is just a bit pissed because they *might* have made a silly cheapskate mistake!

I resemble that remark

Lesson learned :oops:

The Northern Monkey

stubs wrote:

bigbenj_08 wrote:

Sounds like someone is just a bit pissed because they *might* have made a silly cheapskate mistake!

I resemble that remark

Lesson learned :oops:

Hehe DW I've done it before.... live and learn etc etc

acidstrato

i agree with you regarding quality of products, I also make my way through many various types of flash card, card readers and memory sticks in my line of work. I'm no professional on mediums ord brands but I can see that the one listed doesnt give the impression of being a quality product although that doesnt necessarilly mean it is not. Take the plastic off and the insides look the same on 8/10 occasions.

still 4gb class 6 card for that price gets people tempted, you pays your money and takes your chances. caveat emptor

to the OP, its does say you can return, I suspect the reason they told you to test the card is because your reason for wanting to return it is unjustified. I'd test it because I reckon you'll find its fine. But if you just want your money back then try them again and just say you decided you dont want it. if they still stall the paypal dispute it but you cant really go around claiming its not as described if you dont know for sure

blister pus

acidstrato wrote:

I'm no professional on mediums ord brands but I can see that the one listed doesnt give the impression of being a quality product although that doesnt necessarilly mean it is not. Take the plastic off and the insides look the same on 8/10 occasions.

You'd think so wouldn't you. Check out the problems with block erasure and memory wear with both NAND and NOR flash.

Raymondavalon

So, the deciding factor on the sale was the "Class 6" rating. However the product has no Class rating screened on it, so you have to take the Seller's word that the product is a Class 6 [Micro] SD card
Is there any software utility that can interrogate the card via a USB card reading device?
I am going to be Googling that shortly..

blister pus

you'll get some shareware (crippled freeware use) usb benchmarking tools that deal with usb and other flash devices. There was one I used to use called Flash Memory Toolkit but they stopped updating it and by that time I already knew what to buy, who was reliable, etc.