this lorry driver

northernneil

should be imprisoned for attempted murder

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west ... 574609.stm

bompington

Oh dear, I'm just waiting for Spen's reaction.

I'll just start by pointing out that, horrendous as it looks, I don't see a lot of evidence that the lorry driver deliberately rammed the car.

Stewie Griffin

I cant believe that was deliberate at all. What got me is the total lack of effort of the driver in the car recording it. I would have overtaken the lorry and slowed down in front of it until he stopped or realised it was there. Im getting off as this is our junction is poor behaviour tbh.

northernneil

bompington wrote:

Oh dear, I'm just waiting for Spen's reaction.

I'll just start by pointing out that, horrendous as it looks, I don't see a lot of evidence that the lorry driver deliberately rammed the car.

dont see a lot of evidence he is slowing down either !

blorg

I think the car is actually in his blind spot, worth considering if you are ever sat in front of one at a light. Some comments suggest it is possible that he actually didn't realise. I'm with Stewie, can't believe the guys recording it made no effort to alert the driver.

bompington

northernneil wrote:

bompington wrote:

Oh dear, I'm just waiting for Spen's reaction.

I'll just start by pointing out that, horrendous as it looks, I don't see a lot of evidence that the lorry driver deliberately rammed the car.

dont see a lot of evidence he is slowing down either !

True, which leaves two possibilities - either he's a psychopath or, unlikely as it seems, he didn't know it was there.

spen666

As other's have said, where is the evidence driver intended to kill or seriously injure the victim?

No matter how much you dislike someones actions, you can't jail them for offences they have not committed

Crapaud

How the truck driver didn't notice the car, I don't know. You'd think it was obvious and he'd have stopped himself.

What was he doing? Reading pr0n with his eyes rolled back into his head?

spen666

Dangerous driving would seem to be more appropriate charge

Chip \'oyler

The truck driver didn't see the car because he was too busy strangling the prostitute he'd picked up earlier

deptfordmarmoset

It looks fake to me - notice that when the car passes the black offside window post (whatever they're called) the upper car brake light immediately change once it emerges in the windscreen view. The car also looks far too upright to me.

So the apparent fact that there appears to have been an incident - or at least the police have investigated one - between the trucker's company and a car makes it a bit confusing. But I'm sceptical. Nay, I'm a disbeliever...

rick_chasey

Slightly worrying that this has only come to the attention of the police because it was filmed and put on youtube...

PBo

this just screams fake to me.....

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MadammeMarie

PBo wrote:

this just screams fake to me.....

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I'm not so sure it's a fake. You can hear one of the guys screaming "he hasn't seen it!"

Headhuunter

Another thread on this:
http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=

It can't be fake, the article says the police have acknowledged it and have investigated...

fast as fupp

surely if that was real the tyres would be off the rims straight away and there would be a sea of sparks?

Headhuunter

How can it bve a fake if the police are investigating? They wouldn't investigate some fake CGI You Tube movie!

nwallace

http://www.movingtargetzine.com/article ... y-a-driver

http://www.movingtargetzine.com/forum/d ... om-nozzer/

Note the red bit infront of the cab, I'm surprised the cars tyres held up to that and didn't roll though.

skyd0g

fast as fupp wrote:

surely if that was real the tyres would be off the rims straight away and there would be a sea of sparks?

This would normally be the case, but the road is wet (you can see the windscreen-wiper operating on the filming car) so the tyres are just skidding.

spen666

Headhuunter wrote:

How can it bve a fake if the police are investigating? They wouldn't investigate some fake CGI You Tube movie!

how would they know its a fake unless they have investigated it?

Percy Vera

He might not have seen it but surely he would have felt it when he hit the car

PBo

spen666 wrote:

Headhuunter wrote:

How can it bve a fake if the police are investigating? They wouldn't investigate some fake CGI You Tube movie!

how would they know its a fake unless they have investigated it?

the police turned up and found them on the hard shoulder later.......i find it hard to believe that even a cursory explanation of the events by the car driver wouldn't have lead to an investigation at the time.

can anyone speculate a sequence of events that could lead to this?????

cougie

None of us were there so to start throwing allegations around seems a bit off.

I reckon its real and as I understand it the authorities were already dealing with it.

I note the haulier hasn't said its a faked movie and they would know and would be the first to want to avoid the bad publicity.

shockedsoshocked

Possibly the drivers of the cars fault, undercuts or overtakes an artic, misjudges it, get's nudged and that's that. The driver of the artic probably wouldn't even feel it!

Headhuunter

spen666 wrote:

Headhuunter wrote:

How can it bve a fake if the police are investigating? They wouldn't investigate some fake CGI You Tube movie!

how would they know its a fake unless they have investigated it?

Read the text of the article:

"West Yorkshire Police confirmed it had attended the scene. The lorry owner, Cheshire-based Arclid Transport, said it was investigating the incident. "

"A spokesman from Arclid Transport said: "There was an incident between a car and one of our vehicles in January."

"The company said the lorry driver was sent home on Wednesday, when the video emerged on the internet.

He added that the accident happened on 13 January and police had investigated, but to date no action had been taken against the lorry driver. "

etc etc etc etc....

spen666

Headhuunter wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Headhuunter wrote:

How can it bve a fake if the police are investigating? They wouldn't investigate some fake CGI You Tube movie!

how would they know its a fake unless they have investigated it?

Read the text of the article:

"West Yorkshire Police confirmed it had attended the scene. The lorry owner, Cheshire-based Arclid Transport, said it was investigating the incident. "

"A spokesman from Arclid Transport said: "There was an incident between a car and one of our vehicles in January."

"The company said the lorry driver was sent home on Wednesday, when the video emerged on the internet.

He added that the accident happened on 13 January and police had investigated, but to date no action had been taken against the lorry driver. "

etc etc etc etc....

Exactly- the police INVESTIGATED


Without an investigation it would be impossible for police to know if it was a fake.

How detailed or extensive an investigation is ,may be a different matter.

Headhuunter

spen666 wrote:

Headhuunter wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Headhuunter wrote:

How can it bve a fake if the police are investigating? They wouldn't investigate some fake CGI You Tube movie!

how would they know its a fake unless they have investigated it?

Read the text of the article:

"West Yorkshire Police confirmed it had attended the scene. The lorry owner, Cheshire-based Arclid Transport, said it was investigating the incident. "

"A spokesman from Arclid Transport said: "There was an incident between a car and one of our vehicles in January."

"The company said the lorry driver was sent home on Wednesday, when the video emerged on the internet.

He added that the accident happened on 13 January and police had investigated, but to date no action had been taken against the lorry driver. "

etc etc etc etc....

Exactly- the police INVESTIGATED


Without an investigation it would be impossible for police to know if it was a fake.

How detailed or extensive an investigation is ,may be a different matter.

So the police investigate, the article was written based on a real event and people above asked if it was faje, I responsded that it wasn't but you seemed to think differently, despite the wording of the article. You asked how would they know if it was fake unless they have investigated, I have pointed out that they have in fact investigated and it is not fake. Case closed.

nwallace

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west ... 579523.stm

How does she know it took him a minute to notice her?
Also the tanker is probably limited to 54mph

northernneil

heres the latest from the local paper

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... 6169725.jp

deptfordmarmoset

I posted upthread that I was sceptical about the footage. But I guess I'm going to have to accept, after reading the Evening Post report, that the truck driver was a) unaware he'd it a car, b) unaware that the car was jammed right under his nose. But I'm afraid, despite all the evidence, that I'm going to find it very very difficult to accept - because I'm simply too astonished.

spen666

Headhuunter wrote:

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So the police investigate, the article was written based on a real event and people above asked if it was faje, I responsded that it wasn't but you seemed to think differently, despite the wording of the article. You asked how would they know if it was fake unless they have investigated, I have pointed out that they have in fact investigated and it is not fake. Case closed.

I think you are getting confused

i'm not saying if clip is fake or not. i've not viewed clip.

All I have said is that how could police say it was or was not a fake if they haven't investigate it.

I think you are arguing something I'm not saying.


The only p[oint I have made is that police couldn't express a view without having done some sort of investigation