St Patricks

brin
brin Posts: 1,122
edited March 2010 in The bottom bracket
Happy St Patricks 'week' (cos thats how long you celebrate it) to all our friends over the water :)

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  • Westerberg
    Westerberg Posts: 652
    bah! flamin bogtrotters. :wink:
  • Heckler1974
    Heckler1974 Posts: 479
    Wow great, another marketing based excuse for people to get drunk. :D
  • Dog Breath
    Dog Breath Posts: 314
    I know it's just an excuse for a p*** up. But why not do it on St.Georges Day ? Why do it on the national day of a foreign country ??
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Dog Breath wrote:
    I know it's just an excuse for a p*** up. But why not do it on St.Georges Day ? Why do it on the national day of a foreign country ??

    It's a marketing device for selling guiness
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  • cathald
    cathald Posts: 105
    Ahh yes Paddys day I hope to be taken home in a wheel barrow tonight :lol::lol:
  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    Dog Breath wrote:
    I know it's just an excuse for a p*** up. But why not do it on St.Georges Day ? Why do it on the national day of a foreign country ??

    It's a marketing device for selling guiness

    And Charles Wells has had a little success doing the same with Bombardier for St Georges Day. Not quite to the levels of Guinness though!


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  • BigG67
    BigG67 Posts: 582
    While my colleagues in Dublin might like to take the credit for the whole thing, Guinness kind of ride the wave of St Pats rather than drive it. They are trying to build Arthur's Day in Sept as the day for Guinness with music events and charity work.

    I reckon it's more about the nature of the Irish that they really want to celebrate their nationality, especially the ex-pats and those who claim Irish heritage living abroad.

    It's FAR bigger in the USA than it is in the UK and I'd fancy that most of those who do go large in Dublin are visiting for the craic rather than living there.
  • kaacp
    kaacp Posts: 93
    Just getting a greeting in as the day ends...

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  • Dog Breath
    Dog Breath Posts: 314
    A day when all the plastic paddies emerge !

    A few years ago on Paddys Day, I was at work when a marching band went past playing Irish tunes and waving Irish Tricolours. My immediate thought was what would happen if on St Georges Day a parade took place in Dublin playing English patriot music and waving the St George flag. I bet it would not be tollerated and those taking part would possibly be subject to vitriol or even violence !
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  • Vino2007
    Vino2007 Posts: 340
    Dog Breath wrote:
    A day when all the plastic paddies emerge !

    A few years ago on Paddys Day, I was at work when a marching band went past playing Irish tunes and waving Irish Tricolours. My immediate thought was what would happen if on St Georges Day a parade took place in Dublin playing English patriot music and waving the St George flag. I bet it would not be tollerated and those taking part would possibly be subject to vitriol or even violence !

    The likely reason possibly being, that Englishmen in history invaded Ireland and oppressed it with their own culture and government (e.g. The English Pale)?
  • David555
    David555 Posts: 21
    Dog Breath wrote:
    I know it's just an excuse for a p*** up. But why not do it on St.Georges Day ? Why do it on the national day of a foreign country ??

    Brush-up on your geography Dog Breath - Northern Ireland (which is part of Ireland) is part of the UK (or so they keep telling us that live here).
  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    From Wikipedia:-

    "Two authentic letters from him survive, from which come the only universally accepted details of his life. When he was about 16[4] he was captured from Britain by Irish raiders and taken as a slave to Ireland, where he lived for six years before escaping and returning to his family. After entering the Church, he returned to Ireland as an ordained bishop in the north and west of the island, but little is known about the places where he worked."

    So, he wasn't even Irish and escaped as a boy? :shock:

    Maybe since he was English/Welsh/Scottish (?) from the mainland and settled in Northern Ireland, that gives us all the excuse we need to really celbrate next year! :P
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  • redjeepǃ
    redjeepǃ Posts: 531
    Paddy's Day is probably far bigger in other countries than Ireland.

    When I lived in the USA it was waaayyyy bigger than it is here in Ireland, and I know Manchester now celebrates it for 10 days, apparently.

    In Ireland we had yesterday off, and they're be plenty of headaces today but that was about it.

    It's mostly an excuse for every elected official in the country to leave for a couple of weeks on all expenses paid junkets to everywhere in the world in the name of 'developing Irish business abroad'...hahaha.
  • NormalD
    NormalD Posts: 145
    The traditional reason for the Irish (Eire) celebrating St Patrick's day but the English not celebrating St George's day is this.

    They are Catholic and therefore celebrate saints day's (not just national saint's) go to Italy, Spain or Poland and there are always festivals and calibrations for different Saint's.

    The English are Anglican's and don't. During certain periods of history you might have been burnt at the stake for celebrating Christmas (St Nicholas day ).

    Ps. This is in no way a religious rant, just a blindingly obvious explanation.
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  • Vino2007 wrote:
    Dog Breath wrote:
    A day when all the plastic paddies emerge !

    A few years ago on Paddys Day, I was at work when a marching band went past playing Irish tunes and waving Irish Tricolours. My immediate thought was what would happen if on St Georges Day a parade took place in Dublin playing English patriot music and waving the St George flag. I bet it would not be tollerated and those taking part would possibly be subject to vitriol or even violence !

    The likely reason possibly being, that Englishmen in history rescued Ireland and blessed it with their own culture and government (e.g. The English Pale)?

    ive corrected that for you
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    daviesee wrote:
    So, he wasn't even Irish and escaped as a boy? :shock:

    He is no more Irish than St George is English, in fact, at least Patrick went to Ireland as St George didnt come to England.

    I was off work yesterday and a Colleague assumed that as Im half Irish it was due to St Patricks day. I asked him as he is Nigerian if he was off as St Patrick is Nigeria's Patron St too, which I then had to prove to him as he didnt believe me. I then advised that Im English born and bred and only celebrate Irish rugby and football wins because they make me Ma a happy lady and whatever does that is a good thing 8) .
  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    I never could figure out the St George and England connection.

    The St. Andrew and Scotland connection is tenious but there.
    A cross in the sky similar to St. Andrew's cross was seen before a battle as a good omen.
    Battle won, patron saint decided.
    None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.
  • Eau Rouge
    Eau Rouge Posts: 1,118
    daviesee wrote:
    I never could figure out the St George and England connection.

    Some guy getting drunk and starting fights around the Mediterranean. He must be English....
  • Chip \'oyler
    Chip \'oyler Posts: 2,323
    Do you think the Irish go out and celebrate St. George's day?








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  • There's a St Paddy's cross in the Union Jack (and an Irish harp in the Royal Standard), so as has been pointed out it's not an entirely foreign country.

    As to the point about the consequences of an English parade in Dublin, I vaguely recall a football "friendly" in Dublin a few years back which was abandoned at half time due to english rioting when Ireland went 1-0 up!
  • Homer J
    Homer J Posts: 920
    I thought they celebrated it because saint paddy drove all the snakes out of ireland? Hence in springfield US of A they have snake whacking day :P
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    Homer J wrote:
    I thought they celebrated it because saint paddy drove all the snakes out of ireland? Hence in springfield US of A they have snake whacking day :P

    He banished all of the snakes from an island that didnt have any snakes, furthermore (according to Wiki) he is a plastic Saint as he was never canonised by a Pope.

    Edit; Snake Whacking Day in Springfield "The crowd arrives in pursuit, but they are soon turned around on the subject of Whacking Day by Bart's newfound knowledge. It turns out that the day was actually invented in 1924 as an excuse to beat up the Irish".

    That episode was also Supernintendo Chalmers first appearance.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,477
    Dog Breath wrote:
    A day when all the plastic paddies emerge !

    A few years ago on Paddys Day, I was at work when a marching band went past playing Irish tunes and waving Irish Tricolours. My immediate thought was what would happen if on St Georges Day a parade took place in Dublin playing English patriot music and waving the St George flag. I bet it would not be tollerated and those taking part would possibly be subject to vitriol or even violence !

    What would happen a St Georges Day parade in London?
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  • Homer J
    Homer J Posts: 920
    We could dress up as saint George and go and fight one of them dragons in china town :)
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    Homer J wrote:
    We could dress up as saint George and go and fight one of them dragons in china town :)

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  • Homer J
    Homer J Posts: 920
    Homer J wrote:
    I thought they celebrated it because saint paddy drove all the snakes out of ireland? Hence in springfield US of A they have snake whacking day :P

    He banished all of the snakes from an island that didnt have any snakes, furthermore (according to Wiki) he is a plastic Saint as he was never canonised by a Pope.

    Edit; Snake Whacking Day in Springfield "The crowd arrives in pursuit, but they are soon turned around on the subject of Whacking Day by Bart's newfound knowledge. It turns out that the day was actually invented in 1924 as an excuse to beat up the Irish".

    That episode was also Supernintendo Chalmers first appearance.

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  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    brin wrote:
    Happy St Patricks 'week' (cos thats how long you celebrate it) to all our friends over the water :)

    Dunno about that I think they're all in Cheltenham this week aren't they?
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    Homer J wrote:
    Homer J wrote:
    I thought they celebrated it because saint paddy drove all the snakes out of ireland? Hence in springfield US of A they have snake whacking day :P

    He banished all of the snakes from an island that didnt have any snakes, furthermore (according to Wiki) he is a plastic Saint as he was never canonised by a Pope.

    Edit; Snake Whacking Day in Springfield "The crowd arrives in pursuit, but they are soon turned around on the subject of Whacking Day by Bart's newfound knowledge. It turns out that the day was actually invented in 1924 as an excuse to beat up the Irish".

    That episode was also Supernintendo Chalmers first appearance.

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  • Vino2007
    Vino2007 Posts: 340
    Vino2007 wrote:
    Dog Breath wrote:
    A day when all the plastic paddies emerge !

    A few years ago on Paddys Day, I was at work when a marching band went past playing Irish tunes and waving Irish Tricolours. My immediate thought was what would happen if on St Georges Day a parade took place in Dublin playing English patriot music and waving the St George flag. I bet it would not be tollerated and those taking part would possibly be subject to vitriol or even violence !

    The likely reason possibly being, that Englishmen in history rescued Ireland and blessed it with their own culture and government (e.g. The English Pale)?

    ive corrected that for you

    Yes thanks a lot, in the same way the Afrikaans rescued and blessed South Africa then?